[VS] [Two Scenarios]Double MS Obito vs Sage mode Minato Namikaze

[Bogard]

^ Yes and Naruto cant maintain Sm 2 seconds after using RS

 

[DemonicAvenger]

^ Yes and Naruto cant maintain Sm 2 seconds after using RS

If by two seconds after FRS you mean a large extended period of fight previous involving multiple other Jutsu then yes.

Minato on the other can literally only activate Sennin Mode and use Rasengan, then blows his load.​

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[Bogard]

Lets just ignore he used hiraishin right? As for Naruto

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[DemonicAvenger]

Lets just ignore he used hiraishin right? As for Naruto

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One Hiraishin Lol now you know your grasping at straws.

Lets also ignore the fact that Sennin Chakra is equal to the amount of chakra you possess, Naruto being dead tired at the time still managed to have enough chakra for two Rasen-Shruikens before he was out of Sennin Mode.

*Edit: Now that your first scan works, it was actually 3. Making your case even worse.​

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[Bogard]

One Hiraishin Lol now you know your grasping at straws.

Lets also ignore the fact that Sennin Chakra is equal to the amount of chakra you possess, Naruto being dead tired at the time still managed to have enough chakra for two Rasen-Shruikens before he was out of Sennin Mode.​

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Naruto was tired Lol now you know your grasping at straws. Funny how you try to use logic(or rather bias) only when it comes down to Naruto

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Naruto was tired Lol now you know your grasping at straws. Funny how you try to use logic(or rather bias) only when it comes down to Naruto

How is that Bias? You started this shit slinging.

If you view my calling Tired Naruto being able to use 3 FRS before having being kicked out of Sennin Mode > Edo Minato using one Rasengan and a measly Hiriashin before arriving at the same state bias, then that's your problem.​

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[Bogard]

How is that Bias? You started this shit slinging.

If you view my calling Tired Naruto being able to use 3 FRS before having being kicked out of Sennin Mode > Edo Minato using one Rasengan and a measly Hiriashin before arriving at the same state bias, then that's your problem.​

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The bias is in your questioning on the remaining chakra when it comes down to Naruto, forgetting Minato has a limited support of chakra himself

 

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is the next time we see Minato after he was repelled by Madara. Clearly out of Sennin Mode and nothing more than a small talk between Madara and Obito transpiring in between.

Madara's assault would have had nothing to do with him losing Sennin Mode either, as no Sennin Mode user has ever been 'knocked out' of Sennin Mode. The manga has shown the exact opposite on numerous occasions.​

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Yeah, which leaves the potential for a minute or so. Regardless, Ma and Pa are a very distinct possibility for extending Minato's Sage Mode. You have nothing supporting that he lost it immediately after his attack failed.

 

[A v i]

What is there to elaborate? Minato has to activate his sensory in order to feel the build pressure. Since he cannot do that in battle, he has no way to know when long range Kamui is activated.

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Tobirama senju whose sensor abilities are similar to that of Minato can sense while fighting so there is no reason for Minato not to be able to sense during the battle and there is nothing that suggests it.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Yeah, which leaves the potential for a minute or so. Regardless, Ma and Pa are a very distinct possibility for extending Minato's Sage Mode. You have nothing supporting that he lost it immediately after his attack failed.

Not even a minute. That conversation wouldn't have taken that long. The difference is negligible given how short the time is anyway.​

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The bias is in your questioning on the remaining chakra when it comes down to Naruto, forgetting Minato has a limited support of chakra himself

Minato had an Edo Tensei body, his body has an unlimited amount of physical and mental energies from which he can produce chakra. Which itself has a limit of Minato's natural knead/release and maximum chakra amounts as when his body was alive.

The fact remains, even if Naruto wasn't tired he still maintained Sennin Mode longer than Minato. The fact that he was tired just drives it home further. The fact that we have feats of him fighting longer in Sennin Mode while not tired doesn't help you either.

The fact that you've all but dropped the debate and resorted to just bashing me shows your own desperation and butthurt.​

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[Bogard]

Minato had an Edo Tensei body, his body has an unlimited amount of physical and mental energies from which he can produce chakra.

The edo effects were nullified by onymoudon

Which itself has a limit of Minato's natural knead/release and maximum chakra amounts as when his body was alive.

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] to the point of being incapable to perform a technique(hiraishin) [

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] and was tired [

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] minutes ago even before facing Madara

The fact remains, even if Naruto wasn't tired he still maintained Sennin Mode longer than Minato. The fact that he was tired just drives it home further.

He maintained it for 2seconds, the time it took him to throw 3RS. It wasn't longer at all

The fact that you've all but dropped the debate and resorted to just bashing me shows your own desperation and butthurt.

Which debate did i drop? The fact you call me butthurt shows your butthurt lol

 

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Tobirama senju whose sensor abilities are similar to that of Minato can sense while fighting so there is no reason for Minato not to be able to sense during the battle and there is nothing that suggests it.

They don't sense passively like Naruto, Karin, Madara, and Muu. They have to knead chakra in order to so, and they cant do it in battle [

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[A v i]

They don't sense passively like Naruto, Karin, Madara, and Muu. They have to knead chakra in order to so, and they cant do it in battle [

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There is a difference b/w they didn't do that and they can't do that,they can sense fine as long as they have their SM in active mode regardless of they are in battle or not.Despite of being the origin of KCM Naruto's danger sensing ability even Kyuubi said that they were too distracted by their own battle so you can't use it as a proof to say that they can't sense while fighting.

No need to mention Minato sensed Naruto when he has Rasengan in his hand.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

The edo effects were nullified by onymoudon

Which can get tired [

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] to the point of being incapable to perform a technique(hiraishin) [

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] and was tired [

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] minutes ago even before facing Madara

Good. Now that we got you replying with something that isn't just crying. We can keep this going.

Minato was fighting Yin Kurama's chakra the whole time against Obito. His Base Chakra wouldn't have been affected, so he wouldn't have lost too much chakra by the time that he used Sennin Mode.​

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He maintained it for 2seconds, the time it took him to throw 3RS. It wasn't longer at all

You know what I meant. Naruto had produced a much larger amount of Senjutsu than Minato did. Had Naruto not used any of those FRS and Minato not used Rasengan or Hiriashin, Naruto would have a much longer allotted time in Sennin Mode than Mianto.​

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Which debate did i drop? The fact you call me butthurt shows your butthurt lol

It took a carrot in front of your face and me throwing the debate in your face to get you reply. I'll remind you that you started throwing insults around first. So we can add hypocrite to your list now as well.​

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[Bronze]

There is a difference b/w they didn't do that and they can't do that,they can sense fine as long as they have their SM in active mode regardless of they are in battle or not.Despite of being the origin of KCM Naruto's danger sensing ability even Kyuubi said that they were too distracted by their own battle so you can't use it as a proof to say that they can't sense while fighting.

No need to mention Minato sensed Naruto when he has Rasengan in his hand.

Or, they cant sense passively. Period. KCM allows you to sense chakra [

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[Bogard]

Good. Now that we got you replying with something that isn't just crying. We can keep this going.

Pretty sure you're the one crying lol

Minato was fighting Yin Kurama's chakra the whole time against Obito. His Base Chakra wouldn't have been affected, so he wouldn't have lost too much chakra by the time that he used Sennin Mode.

He used massive amount of his chakra to warp Jubi's Bijudama. It's not for a reason he switched to Kurama mode after that. We see him tired before fighting Madara, which is proof he was low on chakra

You know what I meant. Naruto had produced a much larger amount of Senjutsu than Minato did. Had Naruto not used any of those FRS and Minato not used Rasengan or Hiriashin, Naruto would have a much longer allotted time in Sennin Mode than Mianto.

And you forget the point. It was just to show you the amount of time you can maintain in SM depends on the amount of chakra you have at your disposal. During the Pain arc, Naruto's normal limit was 5minutes, but after using 2RS, he reverted back instantly regardless of the normal minute time

It took a carrot in front of your face and me throwing the debate in your face to get you reply. I'll remind you that you started throwing insults around first. So we can add hypocrite to your list now as well.​

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When did i insult you?

 

[A v i]

Or, they cant sense passively. Period. KCM allows you to sense chakra [

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Naruto gained access to his sensor ability from Kyuubi which means that Kyuubi has that ability yet Kyuubi didn't sense Naruto just like Minato.It is clear as day Minato deactivated it after sensing Naruto which means that he was maintaining Rasengan while sensing him.

 

[Bronze]

It is clear as day Minato deactivated it after sensing Naruto which means that he was maintaining Rasengan while sensing him.

The scan I posted > your claim.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Pretty sure you're the one crying lol

Since when? Im enjoying myself.​

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He used massive amount of his chakra to warp Jubi's Bijudama. It's not for a reason he switched to Kurama mode after that. We see him tired before fighting Madara, which is proof he was low on chakra

He used Kurama's chakra to do that. He was perfectly fine when he reverted to base after Yang Yurama took more of Yin Kurama's chakra.​

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And you forget the point. It was just to show you the amount of time you can maintain in SM depends on the amount of chakra you have at your disposal. During the Pain arc, Naruto's normal limit was 5minutes, but after using 2RS, he reverted back instantly regardless of the normal minute time

Then your massively misconstruing the point in favor of Minato. Being able to hold SM a couple seconds longer when the other person expended a monsterous amount of chakra while you only used a small amount is hardly commendable.
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When did i insult you?

You need to re-read your own posts if your ignorant to that.​

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[ARGUS]

Minato still wins this

-Despite that Obito has both the MS here,, not much has changed since he still needs to manifest physically in-order to attack Minato,,,and with Minato having kunai here,, and FTG,,, he can evade all the kamui warps,, and the long range Kamui attacks through FTG,,,

-Minato will always outspeed Obito,, whenever he tries to Attack him,, since FTG has already canonically shown to be faster than Kamui,,,therefore whenever Obito tries to attack Minato,, he would end up getting hit the moment he materialises,,, as that will result in Obito getting marked,,,

-Once Obito is marked he simply cant react to something as fast as FTG,as this allows Minato several ways to attack Obito by
as Minato would defeat Obito here in quite a similar fashion as to how he did in canon,,,

-This is all assuming that the kyuubi summoning is restricted ofc