[VS] [Two Scenarios]Double MS Obito vs Sage mode Minato Namikaze

[KCMNaruto]

Intel: Manga knowledge(Current)

Mindset: Kill

Starting Distance: 15m

Restrictions: Noone

#1th Scenario:

Double MS Obito with Senjuu DNA vs Edo Tensei SM Minato

#2th Scenario:

Double MS Obito without Senjuu DNA vs Alive SM Minato

So, who should win ?

 

[Apêx1]

Obito takes both scenario's.

 

[Mattek2008]

Depends. Does Obito come with Susanoo aswell as double Kamui? And how exactly is Minato's SM working?

I'll vote for Obito 6/10 times.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

You do realize that the duration of Minato's Sennin Mode is only one attack right?​

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[KCMNaruto]

Obito takes both scenario's.

Care to elaborate how ?

You do realize that the duration of Minato's Sennin Mode is only one attack right?​

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Of couse I do, however even then Minato can enter SM in just second or two so combined with his FTG he would pull short fast effective attack on Obito.

Depends. Does Obito come with Susanoo aswell as double Kamui? And how exactly is Minato's SM working?

I'll vote for Obito 6/10 times.

Well in First Scenario: Obito has Complete Sussano v3 as Sasuke had while having MS.
IN second scenario: Obito has just Sussano v2 as Sasuke used in fight against Danzo.

Minato's SM is same as Naruto's SM for this battles.

 

[Bogard]

It changes nothing. Minato already showed to move faster [

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In other words, not only he can't activate Kamui in time, but even while teleporting, Minato is faster. It would be a remake since Obito stands no chance with one or 2 kamui

 

[KCMNaruto]

It changes nothing. Minato already showed to move faster [

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In other words, not only he can't activate Kamui in time, but even while teleporting, Minato is faster. It would be a remake since Obito stands no chance with one or 2 kamui

Well as much as I appreciate your efforts, you only proved that Minato's Space time speed using FTG > One time Kamui(either Kakashi's or Obito's). Both Obito's MS even although in two different people close to each other proved to double speed of Kamui jump to other dimenssion... Minato didn't show to surprass double speed Kamui... but it is possible I think.

It is hard to fully guess what double Kamui would do... maybe it would also prolong time of itangibility... besides it may lead to Sussano or no.

I believe it would be tie as they could dodge each other until chakra run out for one of them.

Anyway thanks for your opinion

 

[AGoodBoy]

Minato still wins even without SM. Manga Knowledge just means that they either start at the point where neither of them knew each other's abilities (before kyuubi attack) which makes the fight play out the same way, or they now know each other's abilities. That favors minato more since he now knows to instantly jump before obito ever touches him and obito still can't react to an FTG v2 that can come at his blindspot at any time. Once Obito's tagged, his double MS makes no sense anymore, the fight's over. Minato can blitz him at any point.


EDIT; Wait, wtf? Obito has V3 Susano'o? Meh, he still loses. That really just drags out the fight. The minute minato's chakra or kunai touch susano'o, He can teleport it away. All susano'o does here is give obito a heads up that minato's about to strike him, but minato's still faster than his kamui anyway, so obito can't snipe him.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Minato still wins even without SM. Manga Knowledge just means that they either start at the point where neither of them knew each other's abilities (before kyuubi attack) which makes the fight play out the same way, or they now know each other's abilities. That favors minato more since he now knows to instantly jump before obito ever touches him and obito still can't react to an FTG v2 that can come at his blindspot at any time. Once Obito's tagged, his double MS makes no sense anymore, the fight's over. Minato can blitz him at any point.

Wow great and well detailed explanation

However couldn't double times speed of jumping in other Dimenssion make any difference ?

Also possible Sussano, double time prolonged ability to stay itangible(10 minuts now), double times speed of long range Kamui warping.

By Manga knowledge I mean: "Current time"

 

[VongolaX]

Intel: Manga knowledge(Current)

Mindset: Kill

Starting Distance: 15m

Restrictions: Noone

#1th Scenario:

Double MS Obito with Senjuu DNA vs Edo Tensei SM Minato

#2th Scenario:

Double MS Obito without Senjuu DNA vs Alive SM Minato

So, who should win ?

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If all moralities are set aside, and he truely wants to kill sm minato...

Obito would win..

Minato would have a huge chance thanks to ftg, but a double mangekyo would be too fast.

 

[Bronze]

Obito negative diff.

 

[Strict]

The first time, Obito was fooled by Minato's FTG level 2, as he didn't consider Minato to appear behind the Kunai he threw. I think he learned of his mistakes. Not to mention he controlled Kyuubi back then.

So double MS Obito with Genjutsu and Izanagi? He clearly takes this.

Bogard himself is hyping Obito's perfect Jin controlling Genjutsu.

 

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If all moralities are set aside, and he truely wants to kill sm minato...

Obito would win..

Minato would have a huge chance thanks to ftg, but a double mangekyo would be too fast.

Thanks that is nice answer and I could go along with it.

Obito negative diff.

You never bother to elaborate, Do you ?

The first time, Obito was fooled by Minato's FTG level 2, as he didn't consider Minato to appear behind the Kunai he threw. I think he learned of his mistakes. Not to mention he controlled Kyuubi back then.

So double MS Obito with Genjutsu and Izanagi? He clearly takes this.

Bogard himself is hyping Obito's perfect Jin controlling Genjutsu.

I think so too... but Minato have chance as well.. if he well play his cards

 

[Bronze]

You never both to elaborate, Do you ?

What is there to elaborate? Minato has to activate his sensory in order to feel the build pressure. Since he cannot do that in battle, he has no way to know when long range Kamui is activated.

 

[Strict]

Inb4 Bogard tells us how Minato will fight Obito with closed eyes and permanent sensing and blitz him.

 

[Draphsin]

Obito stomps.

He can simply camp in his dimension & snipe minato as much as he pleases.

 

[Bogard]

Inb4 Bogard tells us how Minato will fight Obito with closed eyes and permanent sensing and blitz him.

The Kages were capable to fight without eye contact against 25Sharingan users without sensing

 

[KCMNaruto]

Obito stomps.

He can simply camp in his dimension & snipe minato as much as he pleases.

Well But Minato is fast on his own. and has FTG.., Besides it only clear scenario where Minato is alive, what about ET...

Kamui's snipe will not work on Et...

 

[Apêx1]

The Kages were capable to fight without eye contact against 25Sharingan users without sensing

But Ay was still caught in genjutsu.

 

[Bogard]

But Ay was still caught in genjutsu.

Only after immobilisation to force eye contact during a distraction