Tsunade & Sakura VS. The Sound 5.

[Black Wolf]

And your idea that she'll spend entire fights trying to chase down her enemies and never land hits, and because she does not use back flips in her taijutsu, is just as retarded and laughable as his argument.

Sure she will. She did it against Kabuto and Orochimaru.

She has no method of fighting other than CQC. She can't fall back and utlize ranged attacks like 99% of the roster does; she can only charge forth and hopes she lands a punch, and even then, with low speed and a linear style, her chances are low. Killer Bee, Kimimaro, and Gai with nunchucks are all great examples of utilizing nimbleness and unpredictability in CQC. Tsunade and the Raikage are both great examples of predictable fighting styles.

Hilarious that you're comparing me calling out Tsunade's lack of versatility with Bantos saying that a scream lolcounters sound Genjutsu.

 

[Strict]

That makes no sense. Tsunade and Sakura are respectively planet busters.

 

[Blackdeath667]

He does. I have heard worse from Tsunade fans.

tsunade123 says that apparently there was an interview with kishi that said tsunade could of taken out pain with one blow.. lol i didnt even ask for the link to said * interview* i just kept on debating to seehow far they was gonna argue.. in the end tsunade123 says tsunade blitz's pain

 

[SuperChief]

Come the **** off it. Sakura and Tsunade destroy the Sound Five.

 

[Joker]

Why wouldn't it work? WHY?



You're just misunderstanding on purpose. She obviously needs to keep screaming/yelling/shouting in order to block the sound coming from the flute.

While she's screaming, Kidomaru shoots her in the face and destroys her brain.

 

[DaileyM]

Come the **** off it. Sakura and Tsunade destroy the Sound Five.

Do explain .

 

[RedRobin]

Come the **** off it. Sakura and Tsunade destroy the Sound Five.

Just dont. Had it been any other ninjas being almost the same level as Sakura and Tsunade, they would win but its Sakura and Tsunade. Dont even try and discuss.

 

[Bantos]

While she's screaming, Kidomaru shoots her in the face and destroys her brain.

Because her eyes wouldn't work while she's screaming. But hey! You finally understood the concept of the screaming counter.

 

[Joker]

Because her eyes wouldn't work while she's screaming. But hey! You finally understood the concept of the screaming counter.

Bone forest

 

[TRE MERCER]

Sound 5 wins with or without Katsuya. Sound Genjutsu is just to much.

 

[RedRobin]

Bone forest

Gonna help a lot when they are in the forest of death and easily walk up the very tall trees.

 

[RedRobin]

Sound 5 wins with or without Katsuya. Sound Genjutsu is just to much.

Sound genjustu which will effect everyone around Tayuya.

 

[Joker]

Gonna help a lot when they are in the forest of death and easily walk up the very tall trees.

She's screaming, and if she wants to hop on a tree, Kidomaru or Kimmimaru can just shoot at her

 

[Bantos]

Bone forest

Punch to the ground/jump, jump away~(remember how high Tsunade is actually capable of jumping? If not, check the sannin fight.)/Summon Katsuyu.

 

[Joker]

Punch to the ground/jump, jump away~(remember how high Tsunade is actually capable of jumping? If not, check the sannin fight.)/Summon Katsuyu.

She gets swatted in the air like a fly does during summer.

 

[LuckyMan]

Yeah, I'm using the databook. It was written by Kishimoto just as the manga was, and is just as valid. It has not been contradicted to date except on occasions such as:

1. The character outgrowing their stats. This only pertains to main characters, specifically Naruto, Sasuke, and to a lesser degree Sakura and Kakashi and perhaps other members of K11 (like Chouji). Tsunade, a 50+ year old woman who has not been particularly active, isn't going to magically improve without explanation.

2. The roof-tier stat argument. Telling me "lolItachi and Tayuya both have 5's so it must be wrong" doesn't work because the databook is not written with stats relative to each other. There is a standard to qualify for mastery in a stat. The mastery level could be 800; Tayuya might be an 850 while Itachi is a 3000. A gap can still exist in the roof tier.

If stats were written relative to each other, would someone like Kakashi really deserve a 3.5 in strength when Tsunade has a 5? Tsunade is hundreds of times physically stronger than Kakashi, and the 1.5 tier-gap doesn't do that disparity any justice.

So yeah, the databook is perfectly fine. I've had this argument in the Tsunade-speed thread.

So this is your own interpretation of the databook? Yeah, still holds no weight, unless you emailed Kishi himself and he gave you these specific guidelines to follow.

Hidan has only a 3.5 in speed in the databook yet kept Kakashi and Asuma (both have 4.5) on their toes when he fought them, constantly overwhelming them and making them go on the defensive. Orochimaru also has a 4.5 in speed and was still unable to react to Tsunade and was overwhelmed by her (he had no arms, but that still doesn't affect his speed). This proves the databook is not always the right way to go because the manga has contradicted it too many times to count. Kishi has made it clear that characters are not what they look like on paper (databook) and gives them a more detailed and reliable image of their abilities in the story (manga). It's fine and dandy if you believe the databook as true, but I believe fight and feats I actually see, not numbers graphs.

 

[Bantos]

She gets swatted in the air like a fly does during summer.

Because even her jumps are so slow. She just floats in the air like a cloud.

:| :| :|

 

[DaileyM]

Punch to the ground/jump, jump away~(remember how high Tsunade is actually capable of jumping? If not, check the sannin fight.)/Summon Katsuyu.

So, She can scream, jump up and dodge all the sounds 5's moves

 

[Joker]

Because even her jumps are so slow. She just floats in the air like a cloud.

:| :| :|

Like Kidomaru's arrows, Kimmimaro's bullets are slow.

 

[Bantos]

So, She can scream, jump up and dodge all the sounds 5's moves

Is screaming and doing stuff really that hard for you?

I'd say yes. She's easily fast enough to blitz every member of sound five, excluding Kimimaro of course.

Like Kidomaru's arrows, Kimmimaro's bullets are slow.

Like jumping with leg strength that can destroy mountains isn't good enough to just flash trough the air.