Tsunade & Sakura VS. The Sound 5.

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It's sound. You need to hear the sound as it is in order for it to work. :| A scream/shout would defend her from hearing it at all or at least make the sound she hears different, thus it wouldn't work.
This is you getting fan-fiction and stretching it as far as you can in hopes of forming a coherent argument.

It isn't working.

By chunin level I meant Sakon/Ukon. Kimimaro is a high jonin-low kage. Tsunade on the other hand is high kage level by fighting capabilities alone.
You're among the select few that see Tsunade as high-Kage level.

The rest of us find the notion laughable.

The thing is that Kimimaro's bones are easily broken by Tsunade. Other way to bring him down fast is with Katsuyu's acid.
The thing is Kimimaro has full knowledge here and knows that tanking punches should be avoided if necessary.

And as I said earlier, CS2 combined with regeneration should allow him to survive a punch if worse comes to worst (which is doubtful). Kimimaro was loling and Gaara's mineral enhanced sand burials. Normal sand burials were pasting humans to a puddle of blood.


In order for Kimimaro to actually cause a threat he needs to get to close combat, then he's pretty easily grabbed and he won't be running anymore. :|
You must have missed the part where he can fire bone bullets out of his fingers. And the part where he can turn the surrounding area into a hellzone of spikes.

Kimimaro is faster than her and has a Taijutsu style that is far more nimble and acrobatic than hers. He also has more reach considering he can use his bones like a sword. He isn't getting "grabbed" by her.

I personally believe Tsunade is actually faster and has better reactions given her latest fighting feats.
Tsunade has a 3.5 in speed, and hasn't done anything noteworthy between the release of the DB3 and now to warrant a significant improvement. She was in a coma, on the ground bisected, and now inside of a cacoon with the only possible chance of improvement occurring during the Madara battle, and if an improvement occurred, it isn't propelling her from a tier 3.5 to above a 4.5.

I've already given my full side on this in the "Tsunade's speed" thread. All of Tsunade's perceived speed feats are attributable with the fact that it was a team effort, that Madara was outright trying to fool them with a clone, or that the Kage had all been fighting for longer than they had and were in worse physical condition due to lack of Byakugo.
 
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I actually do. Try listening to some music and then screaming as loud as you can. Can you hear the music that well anymore? :|

You're just too blinded by your overestimation of sound genjutsu to understand how feeble it actually is.
In clubs, I can't even hear the person next to me no matter how much he screams. Apparently you have never visited one, which tells a lot about you.

If this method was so good, why didn't Shikamaru use it, if he's much smarter than Tsunade?​
 

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In clubs, I can't even hear the person next to me no matter how much he screams. Apparently you have never visited one, which tells a lot about you.

If this method was so good, why didn't Shikamaru use it, if he's much smarter than Tsunade?
waiting for someone to say this
 

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People also seem to forget that Sakura can't deal with the sound 4 all by herself.

I think it basically goes like this

-Kimimaro holds Tsunade down for a while
-Sound 4 gang up on Sakura
-Sound 5 gang up on Tsunade

They outnumber and overwhelm.

What is Sakura gonna do? Scream too?
 

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Sound genjutsu? Seriously? Tsunade just screams and the sounds waves will be disturbed. :|
Kimimaro's bones were broken by a slash of a susanoo sword, Tsunade is more than capable of destroying Kimimaro's bony body/bone related attacks since Tsunade made short work of susanoo swords.
You seriously think that some chuunin level brat can actually get close to Tsunade and slip into her? :| That's completely ridiculous, he'd die before he had time to do ANYTHING.
Lmfaoooooooooo, omfg, done
 

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Temari used a high-level forest-vaporizing Futon to dispel Tayuya's Genjutsu. Tsunade isn't replicating anything near that level with a scream. It's a desperate argument, and it shows terribly.

The fact that everyone is laughing at the notion should tell you something.
 

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This is you getting fan-fiction and stretching it as far as you can in hopes of forming a coherent argument.

It isn't working.



You're among the select few that see Tsunade as high-Kage level.

The rest of us find the notion laughable.



The thing is Kimimaro has full knowledge here and knows that tanking punches should be avoided if necessary. And as I said earlier, CS2 combined with regeneration should allow him to survive a punch if worse comes to worst (which is doubtful). Kimimaro was loling and Gaara's mineral enhanced sand burials. Normal sand burials were pasting humans to a puddle of blood.




You must have missed the part where he can fire bone bullets out of his fingers. And the part where he can turn the surrounding area into a hellzone of spikes.

Kimimaro is faster than her and has a Taijutsu style that is far more nimble and acrobatic than hers. He also has more reach considering he can use his bones like a sword. He isn't getting "grabbed" by her.



Tsunade has a 3.5 in speed, and hasn't done anything noteworthy between the release of the DB3 and now to warrant a significant improvement. She was in a coma, on the ground bisected, and now inside of a cacoon with the only possible chance of improvement occurring during the Madara battle, and if an improvement occurred, it isn't propelling her from a tier 3.5 to above a 4.5.
Fan fiction? It's just SOUND. Once you produce a higher sound you won't here the other sound. :| Is it that hard to understans?
A hit from Tsunade has a completely different effect than Gaara's sand burial.

Seriously? Tsunade's reaction and speed feats grew massively from part 1. Not going to get you scans since it's 3 am. Read Gokage vs Madara again and analyse it.

Tsunade is high kage level, even if you choose not to acknowledge it.

PEOPLE explain how overpowering the other sound is not rendering it useless? Didn't Shikamaru use earplugs or something? If you can't hear the sound you can't get caught.

I'd even go as far to say that Tsunade shit on Tayuyas genjutsu with mere chakra control alone.

In clubs, I can't even hear the person next to me no matter how much he screams. Apparently you have never visited one, which tells a lot about you.

If this method was so good, why didn't Shikamaru use it, if he's much smarter than Tsunade?
As Tayuyas melody from a FLUTE is as loud as club music, right?
It seems that Shikamaru is not as smart as Tsunade would actually be.
No, seriously, the whole idea is so simple that Kishimoto never probably even thought about it.
 
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People also seem to forget that Sakura can't deal with the sound 4 all by herself.

I think it basically goes like this

-Kimimaro holds Tsunade down for a while
-Sound 4 gang up on Sakura
-Sound 5 gang up on Tsunade

They outnumber and overwhelm.

What is Sakura gonna do? Scream too?
Inb4 'Shannarroooo' blows the Genjutsu away. Might as well just say that they can break free with the power of friendship.​
 

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People also seem to forget that Sakura can't deal with the sound 4 all by herself.

I think it basically goes like this

-Kimimaro holds Tsunade down for a while
-Sound 4 gang up on Sakura
-Sound 5 gang up on Tsunade

They outnumber and overwhelm.

What is Sakura gonna do? Scream too?
hilarious..
 

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Please sound 4 in CS could Hardly defeat 2 fodder jounin.

Not to mention. Tayuya sound genjustu is effecting all the sound 5 not just Tsunade and Sakura. Once she goes to kill Tsunade or Sakura with a kunai, it will not work and will break one of them out of the genjustu.
 

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Fan fiction? It's just SOUND. Once you produce a higher sound you won't here the other sound. :| Is it that hard to understans?
A hit from Tsunade has a completely different effect than Gaara's sand burial.

Seriously? Tsunade's reaction and speed feats grew massively from part 1. Not going to get you scans since it's 3 am. Read Gokage vs Madara again and analyse it.

Tsunade is high kage level, even if you choose not to acknowledge it.

PEOPLE explain how overpowering the other sound is not rendering it useless? Didn't Shikamaru use earplugs or something? If you can't hear the sound you can't get caught.

I'd even go as far to say that Tsunade shit on Tayuyas genjutsu with mere chakra control alone.
Just don't go that far.​
 

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People forget to realize Kidomaru can go in a tree, and support his team from a distance. Jirobo is basically a miniture Tsunade, and added on with Sakon and Ukon, who can merge with Tsunade without her knowing, they can sacrifice themselves and kill her with them, and if she regenerates, they do too, so they repeat the process over, and over, until she loses too much chakra.
 

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lol you jokers realize that that punch does create a giant sound which does block out the tiny sound made from the flute.

As did Temari fuuton.
 

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@Black Wolf

The databook stats, really? If you want to use the databook argument you're going to have to also acknowledge some very absurd things as true. You're also merely speculating about Tsunade's speed and that argument holds no weight.
 
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