Tsunade & Sakura VS. The Sound 5.

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Actually it didnt blow up Neji's stomach and since everyone else thinks the brain is not important then she survives it.
Because it drilled through Neji's body.. if this force hits the skull, it is completely crushed and the brain destroyed. Bitch please. How is this even debatable.
 

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I apply to your common sense, which you seemingly lack.

We don't have ANY proof that the huge ass ransegan wouldn't be able to do that, while we do have proof that amaterasu is not as hot as the sun. :| Why would you take it as false information then?

That is common sense right there. Face the facts.
 

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Kimimaro will keep Tsunade busy with superior CQC and force her to use her seal. Kidomaru is a genius in escaping detection from even the Byakugan. If he makes it to long range he'll definitely get you through your blind spot. Tsunade doesn't have Byakugan so she will not see it coming and how will she survive an arrow to the neck or head? That's right, she won't. Sakon and Ukon are support and can definitely land a surprise, lethal blow. Most members would give Sakura a hard time. The Sound 4 would overwhelm Sakura fairly quickly and then gang up one a busy Tsunade, so it's no use in underestimating these sound 4 in their Curse Seal states, especially in level 2.

Kimi keeps Tsuande busy. Sound 4 handles Sakura. Kidomaru hides and shoots arrows at Sakura's blind spot and ends it. Once they are done with Sakura they come and aid Kimi, not that he will need it.
 

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We don't have ANY proof that the huge ass ransegan wouldn't be able to do that, while we do have proof that amaterasu is not as hot as the sun. :| Why would you take it as false information then?

That is common sense right there. Face the facts.
Why am I bothering with you. U_U
 

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Because it drilled through Neji's body.. if this force hits the skull, it is completely crushed and the brain destroyed. Bitch please. How is this even debatable.
lol'd hard
 

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Because it drilled through Neji's body.. if this force hits the skull, it is completely crushed and the brain destroyed. Bitch please. How is this even debatable.

I ask the same question but people on NB seems to think the brain isnt as important as it actually is. [ ]
 

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So this is your own interpretation of the databook? Yeah, still holds no weight, unless you emailed Kishi himself and he gave you these specific guidelines to follow.

No, it isn't an interpretation; its obvious. Unless you think Kishimoto "overlooked" the fact that he gave Orochimaru and Itachi both 5's in Genjutsu. Or overlooked that Kisame and Tsunade got 5's in the databook for strength.

Disparities exist in the roof tier because stats are not written relative to one another. If they were, everyone except for Kisame would have 0's in strength because relative to Tsunade, everyone's physical strength is not even worth mentioning. Is Tsunade less than twice as physical strong as Itachi?

Databook is just as canon as manga, and if you want to disregard it you'll have to disregard the manga by that very same merit.

Hidan has only a 3.5 in speed in the databook yet kept Kakashi and Asuma (both have 4.5) on their toes when he fought them, constantly overwhelming them and making them go on the defensive.

Overwhelming them?

Asuma:

1. .

2. (and Asuma had no knowledge on this; a scratch on the cheek doesn't normally spell doom for a fighter).

Kakashi:

1. . Just nailed a guy in the chest only to have him get back up and kick him into a tree. He was obviously not going on the offensive; he was retreating.

2. . Furthermore, at this point, Kakashi had already gotten kicked into a tree, hit partially by a Futon, had an injured hand from Futon training, not to mention had an inferior weapon.

Those are the only times Kakashi / Asuma clashed with Hidan, and nowhere do I see him "constantly overwhelming them."

Orochimaru also has a 4.5 in speed and was still unable to react to Tsunade and was overwhelmed by her (he had no arms, but that still doesn't affect his speed).

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Tsunade caught Orochimaru off guard. He thought her to be out for the count, and she pot-shotted him in that instant. Orochimaru had been dodging Tsunade from the village all the way to the Sannin battlefield without incident.

All of Tsunade's "speed feats" during the Sannin battle are attributable to her opponent being off guard, like when Kabuto literally closed his eyes. They are not attributable to her speed.

This proves the databook is not always the right way to go because the manga has contradicted it too many times to count. Kishi has made it clear that characters are not what they look like on paper (databook) and gives them a more detailed and reliable image of their abilities in the story (manga). It's fine and dandy if you believe the databook as true, but I believe fight and feats I actually see, not numbers graphs.

None of your proof really contradicts the databook.
 
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So Databook applies? I guess Haku is as fast as light then, as well as Sasuke's and Madara's Susano'O possess Yata & Totsuka combo.

Databook has been outdated, badly. Anyone with common sense understands that Databook isn't always right, l0l.

I ask the same question but people on NB seems to think the brain isnt as important as it actually is. [ ]

The difference between Hidan and Tsunade, is that Hidan can survive basically any attack, unless he is atomized, pulverized or liquified. Tsunade dies from any normal wound, unless she can regenerate that. Hidan doesn't need his organs to survive, Tsunade does.

And I though this was common knowledge.
 
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So Databook applies? I guess Haku is as fast as light then, as well as Sasuke's and Madara's Susano'O possess Yata & Totsuka combo.

Databook has been outdated, badly. Anyone with common sense understands that Databook isn't always right, l0l.

But we have SEEN that Haku isn't as fast as light and that Sasuke's and Madara's susanoo do not possess those things. :|
Thus they were bunked.

We have no proof that the huge ass rasengan is weaker than it's claimed to be.

Seems like you're a dull one, too.
 

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Yeah alright. Tsunade is a mountainbuster.
 

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What's wrong with Tsunade being a mountain buster? Sakura , and she relies on chakra to enhance her rather average strength. Tsunade has both top tier physical strength and can use chakra to further enhance it.
 

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spider web binds + bone forest is a good combination ITT
 

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Tsuna and Ms. Forehead have nothing to get them out of Spiderman's webs
 

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Why restrict shit

Senario 2 they solo low diff

Senario 1 mid diff
 

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Yes, yes she can.

Naruto's big ass rasengan didn't even scratch Madara's susanoo's ribcage(which was said to be able to destroy a mountain) but Tsunade casually kicked it in pieces.

nope,jiraiya's senpou:cho odama rasengan was said to bust a mountain not base naruto's version so...
 

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nope,jiraiya's senpou:cho odama rasengan was said to bust a mountain not base naruto's version so...

Wasn't it a sm rasengan too? Since when has base Naruto performed big ass rasengans in base?
 

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Wasn't it a sm rasengan too? Since when has base Naruto performed big ass rasengans in base?

was Naruto's Chou Odama Rasengan, same size as Jiraiya's senpou one. Sage Naruto's COR is even bigger.
 
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