Tsunade & Sakura VS. The Sound 5.
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You're talking to a deaf man Joker.
We should make a FC for Bantos for his superior debating skills.
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Don't see you countering my screaming theory though. :|
Is it hard to comprehend how sound works?
You're all just ignoring the fact that Tsunade's reaction feats just plain shit on those of Kimimaros.
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Black Wolf
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No, the problem isn't that it's hard to understand. The problem here is that the entire notion you're presenting here is beyond retarded. It's moronic and stupid on so many levels that only a Tsunade apologist would find any logic present here whatsoever.
Kishimoto had Temari level an entire forest with one of the most powerful Futons to date to counter that Genjutsu. And you take from that that it can be countered by lolscreaming? Yeah, maybe if you're the skyscraper sized Kyuubi, sure. But Tsunade? Hell no.
He had Itachi and Sasuke rely on each other to break out of it (albeit it was a proper Sage Mode version, but CS2 is pseudo-Sage Mode to begin with). And you take away from that that a person screaming is enough to counter it? You don't think Shikimaru, the smartest person alive, would have thought of that if it was even a possibility?
They are both blunt force damage, only Gaara's attack is all-encompassing and has a better kill-rate than Tsunade's hits do.
I don't doubt that Tsunade's punches are harder, but the gap between a mineral sand burial and Tsunade's punches isn't going to be tiers apart, and even if it was, Kimimaro wasn't even phased by the sand burial. His durability hadn't been breached and he still had regeneration to fall back on (which he didn't need).
Tsunade got her speed stat in Part II. DB3 is post chapter 400, few chapters before Pain invasion. Since the Pain invasion, she has spent her time in a coma, sat in the War discussion room, lay bisected on the ground, and is now chilling in a cacoon. The only possible time for improvement was her brief battle with Madara.
Tsunade has no notable speed feats in the Madara battle
Oh, it isn't just me not choosing to acknowledge it. It's me and the rest of this forum that don't fall under the category of Tsunade apologists.
Tsunade is lacks attack versatility. She has no ninjutsu (barring the nigh superfluous BPD), and relies on physical blows alone. This would be okay if she had speed (Gai, 3rd Raikage, 4th Raikage, Kimimaro) or ranged attacks (Gated Gai, Kimimaro), but she doesn't.
She relies solely on CQC, and with her below average speed, she has no hopes of landing a hit against most Kage level fighters, who are not only faster than her but have far more versatile arsenals to put distance between themselves and her. Whats worse is her CQC style is extremely linear, consisting of straight charges towards her opponent rather than utilizing acrobatics like Gai, Kimimaro, or Sharingan users (Madara, Itachi, Sasuke, Kakashi).
Her saving grace is Byakugo, and that is literally the only thing that makes her qualify for Kage-level.
It is since it's coming from you. You hear the sounds you make yourself much louder than they sound to others. Do you understand this or do I need to make it simpler?
Put some flute music on and scream as loud as you can. And keep screaming. You're not hearing the music, but your own awful yelling.
I just don't get why this is so hard to comprehend by you all. Lackwits.
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And your idea that she'll spend entire fights trying to chase down her enemies and never land hits, and because she does not use back flips in her taijutsu, is just as retarded and laughable as his argument. Sorry Bantos, I think Tsunade wins too but your argument is honestly stupid as hell.
Why wouldn't it work? WHY?
You're just misunderstanding on purpose. She obviously needs to keep screaming/yelling/shouting in order to block the sound coming from the flute.
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Yeah, I'm using the databook. It was written by Kishimoto just as the manga was, and is just as valid. It has not been contradicted to date except on occasions such as:
1. The character outgrowing their stats. This only pertains to main characters, specifically Naruto, Sasuke, and to a lesser degree Sakura and Kakashi and perhaps other members of K11 (like Chouji). Tsunade, a 50+ year old woman who has not been particularly active, isn't going to magically improve without explanation.
2. The roof-tier stat argument. Telling me "lolItachi and Tayuya both have 5's so it must be wrong" doesn't work because the databook is not written with stats relative to each other. There is a standard to qualify for mastery in a stat. The mastery level could be 800; Tayuya might be an 850 while Itachi is a 3000. A gap can still exist in the roof tier.
If stats were written relative to each other, would someone like Kakashi really deserve a 3.5 in strength when Tsunade has a 5? Tsunade is hundreds of times physically stronger than Kakashi, and the 1.5 tier-gap doesn't do that disparity any justice.
So yeah, the databook is perfectly fine. I've had this argument in the Tsunade-speed thread.