Tsukuyomi overrated and hyped up

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Wood Release is one of the most hyped up jutsus, Hashirama fanboy naturally degrading any Uchiha.

I see, so you have turned to Troll Side.

Wood Release is the second best KKG.. Go talk to Madara ,a fictional character, about it.

Do you even know how many Uchiha's I have put up high?

Sorry that i actually do read the manga and have common sense.
 

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I don't think it's overrated at all. A lot of the hype , though, is around infinite tsukyomi which in theory is unbreakable. That deserves all the hype it gets easily.
 

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Sigh. Itachi's Tsukoyomi happens and lasts for about a second. So your little theory that it's simple to break by a partner goes out the window.
 

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Geez some people on here get way too serouse about stuff especiallly when it come to talking crap about their favorite characters just read the dam manga n quite being wussies
 

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Lol, you can't comprehend the difference between Sasuke and Itachi's Tsukuyomi, and use Sasuke's in the Bee fight to show it can be broken out of, when it is obvious why the way Bee broke out wouldn't work on Itachi's Tsukyomi. Go back and re-read the manga, Itachi can control space and time which Sasuke couldn't control time, which means Itachi can inflict the full trauma in 1 second vs Sasuke's which is real time, this means Itachi's Tsukuyomi would have already been delievered in full force and be finished before a Tailed Beast even realized his user had been caught.

Switch Sasuke with Itachi when he cast Tsukuyomi on Bee, and Bee wouldn't have gotten back up.
The difference between Sasuke and Itachi's Tsukuyomi isn't about power, but about mastery and proficiency.

I am disappointed Hashirama.
 
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This technique is so hyped up by the fans of Itachi.. why? Cause of the page where Itachi says only the ones who are related to him, can break it.. lmao. So based on that page people basically cut off the "normal way" of canceling a genjutsu, chakra disruption, from the list of ways to stop Tsukuyomi. Which is freaking wrong.


Sasuke Uchiha used Tsukuyomi on Killer B, how was Killer B able to comeback? oh yea, because of Chakra disruption.

Tsukuyomi is a Genjutsu, all genjutsus are the same, they deal with chakra manipulation inside the victim's body. So Tsukuyomi is no different. People like SM Naruto and Jiraya and others who are able to disrupt their chakra and have strong minds (Otherwise it will affect you mentally , like it did to Kakashi) can break out of it.


Stop overrating something, that follows the simple law of breaking a Genjutsu.

Tsukuyomi is nothing special, if your talking about breaking it.

I agree. Kamui and Izanagi are the two best ocular jutsus from the Uchiha. Everything else can be broken or escaped from.
 
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I see, so you have turned to Troll Side.

Wood Release is the second best KKG.. Go talk to Madara ,a fictional character, about it.

Do you even know how many Uchiha's I have put up high?

Sorry that i actually do read the manga and have common sense.

Bringer of darkness is my favorite Hashi tech, Because it blinds all the Uchiha fanboys and their hatred.
 

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He does, Danzo commented on it... Plus, you need Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu to activate Susano'o. Look up the Japanese myth.

Danzo said your GENJUTSU is nothing compared to Itachis Tsukuyomi. He didnt say your Tsukuyomi is nothing compared to Itachis Tsukuyomi. And you dont need Ama and Tsuku for it. Madara has yet to even hint at him having anyone of them. MS awards different abilities. Sasuke has Ama and Enton.
 

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oh yeah just tell me how the STRONGEST GENJUTSU IS OVERATED FUKKIN DUMBASS you are simply underrating it
 

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Danzo said your GENJUTSU is nothing compared to Itachis Tsukuyomi. He didnt say your Tsukuyomi is nothing compared to Itachis Tsukuyomi. And you dont need Ama and Tsuku for it. Madara has yet to even hint at him having anyone of them. MS awards different abilities. Sasuke has Ama and Enton.

Madara has both but he has no need to use them, since he's enjoying Hashirama's power.... Kid, why would Danzo compare regular Genjutsu to the Tsukuyomi???????? You know how stupid that sounds, right? ... And Kishi derives the Mangekyou Sharingan Jutsu from Japanese Myth of Susano'o.... You need both to activate Susano'o. Btw, Blaze Release is a style that Sasuke controls the already existing flames of Amaterasu, which is controlled by his right eye, while he controls Tsukuyomi with his left eye. Only those who've unlocked both Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu can call forth Susano'o.


"Amaterasu, the goddess of the sun, is the sister of Susanoo, the god of storms and the sea, and of Tsukuyomi, the god of the moon. All three were born from Izanagi, when he was purifying himself after entering Yomi, the underworld, after failing to save Izanami. Amaterasu was born when Izanagi washed out his left eye, Tsukuyomi was born from the washing of the right eye, and Susanoo from the washing of the nose."



Children these days...
 
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Huh...cute thread.

Your first fallacious point lies in what you say about Sasuke. While it's true Sasuke used Tsukuyomi on Killer Bee, he only broke out of it as Sasuke's Tsukuyomi and Genjutsu in general is inferior to Itachi's. Namely, that Sasuke cannot manipulate time in his, which brings me to my next point, that Sasuke's is not instant. This was something that was attested by Tobi in Sasuke's bout with Danzo. [ ]

With the above in mind, Itachi's Tsukuyomi is instant, as described on two canonical occasions. [ ] [ ] Kakashi also claims that there is no cancelling the effects of it. This is because Itachi's Tsukuyomi and I will repeat again for those who cannot comphrenend this simple fact, that it is Itachi's Tsukuyomi which cannot be broken by normal means, unless you're an Uchiha; something which was proven when Sasuke broke out of it in their destined battle. Additionally, Kakashi did not survive Tsukuyomi himself; Tsunade healed him. And this was because Itachi went easy on Kakashi, like Kakashi himself stated: "He could have killed me if he wanted to..."

Riddle me this: how can you break a technique that affects you in an instant? To put the conjecture forward that:

  • One must recognize the Genjutsu.
  • Then one must cancel it's effects before an instant has occured. :|

Makes no sense...

Like Kakashi said, it's effects cannot be cancelled. And to break a technique faster than an instant makes absolutely no sense.

Thus, to use Sasuke as an example is completely illogical and fallacious. Though, like I said, cute thread.​

this^ finally someone who makes sense. and understands fact and the truth behind a technique.
 

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Though Itachi stated that It would take someone with Uchiha blood to break his Tsukuyomi. No one could and no Uchiha has against Itachi. Well being completely serious anyway. Itachi let Sasuke break the technique. He let sasuke win. He had a plan for sasuke with his death. He gave sasuke his eyes, sealed amateratsu within his eyes and the susanoo. all with his death. Itachi-"besides, there were things i wanted to do for Sasuke with my death" is what he says. manga chapter 550
 

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Though Itachi stated that It would take someone with Uchiha blood to break his Tsukuyomi. No one could and no Uchiha has against Itachi. Well being completely serious anyway. Itachi let Sasuke break the technique. He let sasuke win. He had a plan for sasuke with his death. He gave sasuke his eyes, sealed amateratsu within his eyes and the susanoo. all with his death. Itachi-"besides, there were things i wanted to do for Sasuke with my death" is what he says. manga chapter 550

Actually Sasuke broke Tsukuyomi on his own, noting how Itachi completely gave up on using Genjutsu plus his surprise and started going in to attack (Still knowing fully that he wanted to lose against Sasuke) and Itachi's only objective was to make Sasuke look like a hero, he didn't intend for Sasuke to take his eyes, he intended for the crow inside Naruto to use Kotoamatsukami on Sasuke if he were to detect Itachi's eyes, but that plan failed as it released Edo Itachi from Edo Tensei.
 

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The power of tsukuyomi depends on the user. Sasuke can't control space and time of his tsukuyomi, so it's because of that, that it's breakable. I don't support Itachi very often, but you're wrong. It's already stated in the manga and Kakashi disagrees with you:

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I agree that tsukuyomi can't kill though. I don't know why Itachi fans believe it's a one-shot technique. It all depends on the opponents mind

nice to see u support itachi, its my 1st time see you do this.

Anyway i don't know if its fact about itachi's tsukuyomi is one shot kill. I thought it was because of what kakashi said "you could have kill me but you didn't, why?" So i assume tsukuyomi can one shot kill.

Does sasuke and madara have tsukuyomi? I thought they don't have it or shown it? Sasuke use normal genjutsu on danzo and madara use it on raikage? If its really tsukuyomi then they should have be unconscious like itachi did to kakashi?
 

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This technique is so hyped up by the fans of Itachi.. why? Cause of the page where Itachi says only the ones who are related to him, can break it.. lmao. So based on that page people basically cut off the "normal way" of canceling a genjutsu, chakra disruption, from the list of ways to stop Tsukuyomi. Which is freaking wrong.


Sasuke Uchiha used Tsukuyomi on Killer B, how was Killer B able to comeback? oh yea, because of Chakra disruption.

Tsukuyomi is a Genjutsu, all genjutsus are the same, they deal with chakra manipulation inside the victim's body. So Tsukuyomi is no different. People like SM Naruto and Jiraya and others who are able to disrupt their chakra and have strong minds (Otherwise it will affect you mentally , like it did to Kakashi) can break out of it.


Stop overrating something, that follows the simple law of breaking a Genjutsu.

Tsukuyomi is nothing special, if your talking about breaking it.

1) The genjutsu cannot be broken, the only way to escape is to withstand the mental anguish for the entirity of the jutsu, remember that as your being tortured in the jutsu your body is perfectly fine. Keep in mind that kakashi had T used on him and he survived without having anyone break it, he simply endured it. The most troublesome thing about T is that with itachi he could control space and time, where a second in real like could be i think 7 days in his genjutsu, which is more than enough time to break you down mentally, kakashi showed real resolve by enduring for 3+ seconds.

2) We dont even know if Sasuke used T on killer bee, first off it isnt stated whether it is T or some other genjutsu. Secondly Danzo remarked that Sasuke's Genjustu is a far cry from Itachi's, which also tells us that even if sasuke was using T it isnt as strong as itachis and thus should not be compared to it. Just like Sasuke's ability to use Amaterasu far exceeds Itachi's.
 
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Actually Sasuke broke Tsukuyomi on his own, noting how Itachi completely gave up on using Genjutsu plus his surprise and started going in to attack (Still knowing fully that he wanted to lose against Sasuke) and Itachi's only objective was to make Sasuke look like a hero, he didn't intend for Sasuke to take his eyes, he intended for the crow inside Naruto to use Kotoamatsukami on Sasuke if he were to detect Itachi's eyes, but that plan failed as it released Edo Itachi from Edo Tensei.

actually no itachi let him broke out of it.. itachi said to him "you still talk as confident" sasuke hasn't MS yet and itachi would have finish him like obito said. if itachi fought and wanted kill sasuke and sasuke has MS then Sasuke could have broke out of it. no orginial sharingan could broke itachi tsukyomi
 

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1) The genjutsu cannot be broken, the only way to escape is to withstand the mental anguish for the entirity of the jutsu, remember that as your being tortured in the jutsu your body is perfectly fine. Keep in mind that kakashi had T used on him and he survived without having anyone break it, he simply endured it. The most troublesome thing about T is that with itachi he could control space and time, where a second in real like could be i think 7 days in his genjutsu, which is more than enough time to break you down mentally, kakashi showed real resolve by enduring for 3+ seconds.

2) We dont even know if Sasuke used T on killer bee, first off it isnt stated whether it is T or some other genjutsu. Secondly Danzo remarked that Sasuke's Genjustu is a far cry from Itachi's, which also tells us that even if sasuke was using T it isnt as strong as itachis and thus should not be compared to it. Just like Sasuke's ability to use Amaterasu far exceeds Itachi's.

i don't really think sasuke use black flame better than itachi.. because same for susanoo, we thought sasuke better use susanoo than itachi but until itachi back from edo and we saw itachi use susanoo well like as sasuke so i think itachi can use black flame well like sasuke.. too bad we never able to see it lol
 
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