Tsukiyomi Vs Kamui

[shadedcrow]

But how many people can fight without eye to eye contact? I doubt many could, and especially against someone as dangerous as Itachi. Kamui is also dodgable, whilst Tsukyomi isn't.

First off It's not a battle of people its a technique match up. Even so Two battles vs sharingan users with out eve contact and the old hag of the sand knew how to fight sharingqn users while not making eye contact. It's easier not to look into someone's eyes than it is to stay completely out of their field of vision. Again attack range goes to kamui. Sorry dude its logic. Don't spooge oppinion as fact.

 

[Prince Charles]

It's still dodgable. Itachi is really fast as well you know .

tkusuyomi isnt perfect either tailed beasts can get out if it, if your a uchia you can get out of it stated by itachi. not to mention might guy can just luk at itachi feet instead of his eyes,

 

[Retsu]

that was wayy back than with deidara kakashi has improved alot.
huh? im pretty sure it was stated somewhere jinchurikies are immune to genjutsu since their taield beasts can get them out of it?

when Kakashi got Deidara he was retreating with low clay and chakra reserves from fighting Gaara, and was missing an arm, tbh if Deidara were healthy and wasn't conscerned with Gaara, he wouldn't have lost an arm, all he would have to do is make him kamui something big, and then go in for the kill.

 

[Guildmage]

if both are thrown at the same time, itachi will banish and kakashi will be in coma for 2 weeks again

KAMUI is more dangerous, but requires more prep time....... only in this battle it wins, because the rules of the match (both thrown at the same time), in a regular match Tsukuyomi wins.

 

[Prince Charles]

when Kakashi got Deidara he was retreating with low clay and chakra reserves from fighting Gaara, and was missing an arm, tbh if Deidara were healthy and wasn't conscerned with Gaara, he wouldn't have lost an arm, all he would have to do is make him kamui something big, and then go in for the kill.

doesnt matter not does it?

 

[Shisui Namikaze]

Kamui has unlimited range and you don't have too look in the person eyes you can just use it. So kamui.

 

[Retsu]

another thing about kamui is that Kakashi is ****ed if he gets tricked into kamuing something, like a shadow clone, or anything explosion related. That would be the death of him

 

[Prince Charles]

when Kakashi got Deidara he was retreating with low clay and chakra reserves from fighting Gaara, and was missing an arm, tbh if Deidara were healthy and wasn't conscerned with Gaara, he wouldn't have lost an arm, all he would have to do is make him kamui something big, and then go in for the kill.

another thing about kamui is that Kakashi is ****ed if he gets tricked into kamuing something, like a shadow clone, or anything explosion related. That would be the death of him

true ill agree on that.

 

[-Jiraiya-]

if both are thrown at the same time, itachi will banish and kakashi will be in coma for 2 weeks again

KAMUI is more dangerous, but requires more prep time....... only in this battle it wins, because the rules of the match (both thrown at the same time), in a regular match Tsukuyomi wins.

^^ I did mentioned same time, which may imply the prep time for both techs is over.... It doesnt matter lets include prep time also if you want...:scorps:

 

[shadedcrow]

Look at it like this Itachis dojutsu is like a bullet kakashis is like a shot gun shell one has a wider range than the other but even so after so far that wide range becomes a liability and starts to work against the user. In terms of effect ill still give it to kamui.

 

[choft]

im pretty sure it was stated somewhere jinchurikies are immune to genjutsu since their taield beasts can get them out of it?

I would like to see a link for this.

First off It's not a battle of people its a technique match up. Even so Two battles vs sharingan users with out eve contact and the old hag of the sand knew how to fight sharingqn users while not making eye contact.

So how should we compare the two technqiues? I know it's not a battle btw.

It's easier not to look into someone's eyes than it is to stay completely out of their field of vision.

I'm sorry if I'm stupid but I don't really understand what you're talking about here. =(

 

[Retsu]

Tsukiyomi is risk free compared to Kamui, anyone that you could kamui, you'd have an easier time trying to Tsukiyomi, and Tsukiyomi can't be wasted as kamui could, ppl are gonna start moving and go on the offensive when the space around them gets warped, once you are caught in Tsukyomi, it is over

 

[Prince Charles]

Tsukiyomi is risk free compared to Kamui, anyone that you could kamui, you'd have an easier time trying to Tsukiyomi, and Tsukiyomi can't be wasted as kamui could, ppl are gonna start moving and go on the offensive when the space around them gets warped, once you are caught in Tsukyomi, it is over

true true true, i also feel giving kakashi a few more years with kamui would allow him to master it more. im going a bit to tsukyomi. for now.

 

[Retsu]

true true true, i also feel giving kakashi a few more years with kamui would allow him to master it more. im going a bit to tsukyomi. for now.

Jus saying that Kamui is so unruly and has such drawbacks that it could be a kinjutsu, and banned from use, like Naruto's vanilla rasenshuriken

 

[shadedcrow]

I would like to see a link for this.



So how should we compare the two technqiues? I know it's not a battle btw.



I'm sorry if I'm stupid but I don't really understand what you're talking about here. =(

Jinjuriki ate not immune to genjutsu they just have a partner to counteract the disturbance in their chakra. If they are a good team like bee and the 8 tails.

How do you compare the dojutsu. Start off with attack range. Then effect if caught by the jutsu, and then versatility .
Attack range k>t
Effect again ill give it to k but its close you could call it =
Versatility can be used for attack and defense.. again ill give it to kamui. So with my breakdown. K>t



As for your last quote your not stupid. But as far as its been made known kamuis range is anywhere within the users field of vision. So if kakashi can see it it can be targeted. The closer the better it seems. Itachi has to make direct eye contact and thus puts himself in range of kamui. Just send his head to another dimension and he's dead.

Tsukiyomi is risk free compared to Kamui, anyone that you could kamui, you'd have an easier time trying to Tsukiyomi, and Tsukiyomi can't be wasted as kamui could, ppl are gonna start moving and go on the offensive when the space around them gets warped, once you are caught in Tsukyomi, it is over

Itachi himself said every jutsu has a weakness his dojutsu is no exception. And in my oppinion its limited range is its weakness. If you got your head or any part of your body caught by kamui your at a.huge disadvantage.

 

[6PathsofKami]

Why the **** are people saying kamui drains your chakra or that it sux just coz kakashi cant use it more than twice? Imagine a uchiha using kamui with an ems, would it suck then? No

 

[-Jiraiya-]

Why the **** are people saying kamui drains your chakra or that it sux just coz kakashi cant use it more than twice? Imagine a uchiha using kamui with an ems, would it suck then? No

^ Thats what I said in the begining not to judge based stamina or chakra of Kakashi

 

[Uchiha Madara.]

Tsukiyomi Ftw U_U

 

[~Uzumaki~]

No proof, sorry. And Sasuke's tsukiyomi on Bee doesn't count as it's significantly weaker than Itachi's.




Kamui is not that fast you know. He coudn't hit Deidara properly with it lol. And I'm sure A could dodge it, hell A managed to dodge Amaterasu. If Kakashi coudn't really hit Deidara with it, hes going to struggle trying to hit Itachi.

He couldn't aim, he needed more training, he's got that now and its fast if it could warp that nail so fast Pain didn't notice and the rocket before it hit Choji.

 

[Shisui Namikaze]

You people that vote for tysukiyomi are retarded.
Tysukiyomi is a short range genjutsu that can only work when the opponent looks into your eyes. You can't even kill them while using it. It just paralyzes them so you can finish them off.

Kamui on the other hand has unlimited range. With good concentration and aim you could kill a person with one shot.

Kamui is op tysukiyomi is not. Therefore kamui is better. It just seems bad cause kakashi doesn't have enough stamina to just use it over and over.