Tsukiyomi Vs Kamui

Which is better or powerful?

  • Tsukiyomi

    Votes: 97 53.3%
  • Kamui

    Votes: 85 46.7%

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Kamui is by far a better jutsu. Not only could it potentially kill effectivly (though we havnt seen proof of that) kamui also has defensive and tactical applications. You can kamui away an explosion for ***** sake.

Tsukiyomi is a terrifying jutsu but kamui is far more versatile. In a fair match with high level shinobi using the jutsus kamui wins everytime.


But Itachi would do horrible, unspeakable, sticky things to Kakashi, that is not an even match. In that scenario Kakashi goes insane from being raped by itachi in his nightmare realm.
 

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He couldn't aim, he needed more training, he's got that now and its fast if it could warp that nail so fast Pain didn't notice and the rocket before it hit Choji.
That was a nail though which is very small. It's much faster to warp a smaller object than a larger one. Remember Tobi trying to warp Minato? Now I'm not saying Tobi has Kamui but the point is that it still takes time to warp something away.

Kamui is dodgable if you're fast enough, so it's escapable, which was the original point of our argument.

shadedcrow said:
As for your last quote your not stupid. But as far as its been made known kamuis range is anywhere within the users field of vision. So if kakashi can see it it can be targeted. The closer the better it seems. Itachi has to make direct eye contact and thus puts himself in range of kamui. Just send his head to another dimension and he's dead.
Well, if Kakashi is trying to send Itachi's head away, the chances are, hes going to see Itachi's eyes. And Tsukiyomi is faster than Kamui. You only need to look in his eyes for a very brief moment, and bam you're caught in the genjutsu. Once Kakashi is in the genjutsu, he can't use Kamui. Tsukiyomi moves at the speed of light because it's based on sight (looking into the eyes), and Kamui is well.... fast but not as fast as light.

But it's actually quite hard to compare the two. Too many different situations can give one the advantage and the other the advantage.

I've got to admit though, Kamui has a lot of its own positives too and it's hard to say which is more powerful.

Tsukyomi is bad against:

Strong Uchiha
Maybe Jinchirukis
People who can fight without looking into people's eyes (again, I still can't see many doing this).

Kamui is bad against:

Fast people.

When I think about it like this, they're actually kinda equal because the number of people who can beat Kamui and Tsukyomi is about the same.
 
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im not saying kakashi is super strong im saying he is enough to fight the seven swordsmen dwn to fighting the tailed beasts truly considering kamuing all of their tbb and to say after the fact he cant break tsukiyomi is is blasphemy
Kakashi can't solo seven swordsmen. He had Gai, Lee, Sai and an entire division to help him. And with the tailed beasts, he has Naruto and Bee there. He definitely cannot solo Tobi.

And sorry, but last time Kakashi was under Tsukyomi, he was pwned, big time.
 
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Jus Sayin, ppl overrate the hell out of a move that has yet to kill anyone, what makes you think he could kamui someonez head off, it's hilarious that because he kamuied peinz missile ppl try to say he can now kamui headz or vital organs instantly, that is so not the case.
So your saying Tsukiyomi killed someone? :scorps:
 
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Kakashi can't solo seven swordsmen. He had Gai, Lee, Sai and an entire division to help him. And with the tailed beasts, he has Naruto and Bee there. He definitely cannot solo Tobi.

And sorry, but last time Kakashi was under Tsukyomi, he was pwned, big time.
lol pwned? Kakashi just fell on his knees then standed back up bro... you fail at the manga and the anime....:sy:
 

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IF the 2 are both off at the same time
Then Itachi would loose concentration & so would kakashi who would be in a genjustu but because itachi has lost his concentration due to the fact that kamui would have got him before kakshi would be cut in a genjustu ahhhhhhh it's complicated to explain,I wish i could make a video of it that would be simple
 

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IF the 2 are both off at the same time
Then Itachi would loose concentration & so would kakashi who would be in a genjustu but because itachi has lost his concentration due to the fact that kamui would have got him before kakshi would be cut in a genjustu ahhhhhhh it's complicated to explain,I wish i could make a video of it that would be simple
^^ Ya. You better make a video. Lol.
 

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lol pwned? Kakashi just fell on his knees then standed back up bro... you fail at the manga and the anime....:sy:
Seriously? Kakashi stood no chance against Tsukyomi. Itachi could have made it longer, but he didn't really want to kill Kakashi. Kakashi got pwned by Tsukyomi.

EDIT: Ah yes, I thought I remember you from somewhere. You're the same person who can't read posts properly.

I made this post:

choft said:
Madara doesn't just have fire you know. =P
And then you responded with this:
Have you been seeing manga's? It was said that all sharingan users know how to use fire release ninjustus....:rolleyes:
Obviously, you didn't read my reply so I'll show you it again.

choft said:
Ok, I actually have no idea what you're trying to tell me and I'll explain why.

No where in my post did I say that Madara does not have fire release. I said that Madara does not only just have fire release. See the difference?
Stop claiming I fail to read the manga. It was you who failed to remember that Kakashi had to go to hospital after he got hit by Tsukyomi, and it was you who failed to remember that Kakashi was wary to fighting Itachi the second time after the time skip because he recognised the danger of Tsukyomi.

And it was you who failed to understand my post about Madara.

Before you try to take the dust out of someone's eye, remove the log in your own eye first.
 
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That's an interesting Question.
In Naruto the Sharingan Abilites are all clasified by their power as japanese
God. One of the Highest " Izanami " is stronger and sacrifices more than
Tsukuyomi.
Apart from Naruto it isn't easy to answer, since
Ameterasu, Tsukuyomi, Susanoo and Izanami are Gods of the Shinto Religion
( If I'm not mistaking ) and Kamuy is the therm for all Gods of the Ainu Religion.
Two completly different aspects.

But to tell by the manga I would say Tsukuyomi, because Kamui is like the teleport of Tobi - a posibility to go between dimensions, and Tobi
couln't dodge Ameterasu which was a physical technique.
So if Kamui won't protect yourself but only work on a specific point
and Tsukuyomi is a Genjustu ( Not Physical ), I don't think Kamui is
effective against Tsukuyomi unless you would use it to manipulate the air between yourself and the tsukuyomi user so he can't focus on you anymore :D
 

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In a face off itachi would win if he uses Tsukuyomi but I think that kamui is more dangerous because if someone uses tsukuyomi on you, you still have a chance to survive if you get caught with kamui you're fucked.
this^ but i will go with kamui,because if direct hit then u r dead
 
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the only weakness about kamui is you have to aim it and unfortunately to aim it you must look at the person if kakashi looks at itachi its over tsukiyomi is the upperhand here because say he can do kamui really fast well he looks at itachi kakashi would be under genjutsu before he could complete the technique that is my opinion
 

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Kakashi can't solo seven swordsmen. He had Gai, Lee, Sai and an entire division to help him. And with the tailed beasts, he has Naruto and Bee there. He definitely cannot solo Tobi.

And sorry, but last time Kakashi was under Tsukyomi, he was pwned, big time.
Im going to start a thread about this
 
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