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Tier 1

Kaguya

Tier 2

Hagoromo
Naruto
Sasuke
Madara

Tier 3
Hamura

Tier 4

Gai
Kakashi

Now its perfect.
Naruto and Sasuke above Madara???
 

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Naruto and Sasuke above Madara???

Naruto is near end. Kidgamer doesnt give a single F anymore and decides to troll his last days of NB.
 

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Naruto is near end. Kidgamer doesnt give a single F anymore and decides to troll his last days of NB.

Orrrrr, I decide not to ride on Madara's D like you do.
 

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Hashirama & Madara ofc.
 

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Is there a viz version of the chapter out. Then i'll believe Kurama's words.

You have no basis for not believing Kurama's words besides you not wanting to believe them.
 

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What the... ? You need help with that schizophrenia of yours, you're seeing things.

OT : Nope, Madara isn't and will never be stronger than Hagoromo, let alone a tier above.

Madara could do anything Hagoromo could have. They had the same potential(except Madara had the third eye). If this is battle-based, which I assume it is because Madara is above Kaguya, then Madara is easily placed above the Sage of Six Paths.
 

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You have no basis for not believing Kurama's words besides you not wanting to believe them.
I believe Kurama, but i don't believe the shit translation that has been given to us. Only Viz is 100% right.
 

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I believe Kurama, but i don't believe the shit translation that is given us. Only Viz is a 100% right.

Ok. Tomorrow we'll have the raws and the VIZ.
 

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Orrrrr, I decide not to ride on Madara's D like you do.

I rather people see me as fanboy than a troll. Most of us dont debate with trolls.
 

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I rather people see me as fanboy than a troll. Most of us dont debate with trolls.

Saying Madara>Kaguya even though manga shows, states and implies otherwise is why you are a fanboy and a troll.
 

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Saying Madara>Kaguya even though manga shows, states and implies otherwise is why you are a fanboy and a troll.

No, it's just that Madara is more powerful. Kishimoto knew and stated he didn't know how to logically defeat someone such as Madara, so he replaced him with someone of the same power(Kaguya), yet dumber. Madara could defeat her, it's only that she has more chakra.
 

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No, it's just that Madara is more powerful. Kishimoto knew and stated he didn't know how to logically defeat someone such as Madara, so he replaced him with someone of the same power(Kaguya), yet dumber. Madara could defeat her, it's only that she has more chakra.

Literally everything in the manga disagrees with this nonsense. Sasuke knew Madara's strength, yet didn't believe someone as strong as Kaguya could exist. What does that tell you? That Kaguya>Madara. There is literally nothing that supports Madara>Kaguya. Not feats, not hype nor portrayal.
 

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Saying Madara>Kaguya even though manga shows, states and implies otherwise is why you are a fanboy and a troll.

Manga only states she has more chakra. If you are telling me that a battle is decided only by chakra then you are greatly mistaken. I have valid arguments to believe Madara is superior. Now what on earth where you thinking putting current Naruto above 3 eyed Madara?

I hate to say this, utterly disgusting but Madara can solo glance Naruto. IT one shots Naruto according to manga.

Now excuse Mr Troll, Im gonna find me someone whos serious enough.
 

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Literally everything in the manga disagrees with this nonsense. Sasuke knew Madara's strength, yet didn't believe someone as strong as Kaguya could exist. What does that tell you? That Kaguya>Madara. There is literally nothing that supports Madara>Kaguya. Not feats, not hype nor portrayal.

Sasuke obviously meant by chakra. How could he tell her strength just by looking at her? The chakra hype is real, not any battle-wise hype.
 

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Manga only states she has more chakra. If you are telling me that a battle is decided mainly by chakra then you are greatly mistaken. I have valid arguments to believe Madara is superior. Now what on earth where you thinking putting current Naruto above 3 eyed Madara?

Sasuke knew Madara's strength, yet didn't believe someone as strong as Kaguya could exist. What does that tell you? That Kaguya>Madara.

Lets not be daft.

Sasuke said her chakra was on another level than Madara's.

Her feats shit on his feats.

Stated to be stronger than Rikudo.

Only a fanboy, a troll, an illiterate, or a moron would believe that Madara can actually beat Kaguya, or that he's stronger.

I hate to say this, utterly disgusting but Madara can solo glance Naruto. IT one shots Naruto according to manga.
On Rikudo's Level=Above Madara. That simple. Madara actually has to be able to pull of IT first, something he can't and won't do.
 

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Sasuke obviously meant by chakra. How could he tell her strength just by looking at her? The chakra hype is real, not any battle-wise hype.

The same way countless others have done it. Chakra is strength buddy when we are talking about people like Juubi Jinchuuriki. Kaguya lost chakra, got weaker, then got blitzed by Naruto. She gained chakra, and she was stated to be on another level.

Naruto and Sasuke gained half of Hagoromo's chakra, became two of the strongest in NV.

Nothing implies Madara>Kaguya. Not feats, not hype or portrayal. I'm waiting for you to come up with an actual case besides "She's dumb"
 

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Tier 1

Kaguya

Tier 2

Hagoromo
Naruto
Sasuke
Madara

Tier 3
Hamura

Tier 4

Gai
Kakashi

Now its perfect.

What about Indra and Ashura? Surely they'd be above Gai.

ot: No, it was a nice attempt but the list is incorrect.
 
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