Tobirama Vs Minato

[Stxluciferr]

Is this your first Tobirama VS Minato thread?

Yeah, that obvious?

 

[A v i]

Yeah, that obvious?

I figured as much and your argument kinda sounds familiar.

 

[End of Days]

- Even though him and Minato were going to use the barrier to teleport the juubi-damas?

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he was gonna teleport the juubi bomb with him, reading comprehension 101

 

[A v i]

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he was gonna teleport the juubi bomb with him, reading comprehension 101

Tobi can most likely use S/T barrier but an inferior version of Minato.Read my posts in this thread if you are interested:

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[Ababeel]

Faster shun shin not teleportation. Some one will bring how Minato got to the battle field first. To that I say how could it have been FTG that got him there, when that would have required him already setting up the mark beforehand which isn't possible

Minato has FTG seal on Naruto's seal.

 

[Ababeel]

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he was gonna teleport the juubi bomb with him, reading comprehension 101

Even worst, Tobirama out flat stated he is going to use FTG and did not even mentioned any barriers. Lol

 

[Stxluciferr]

Minato has FTG seal on Naruto's seal.

That may be true but Minato clearly doesn't FTG to Naruto:

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Notice how the kunia is thrown in from off panel, meaning Minato has already gotten to the area and threw it in front of them. He then FTG's to it.

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[Narutimate Storm]

Ok I must know.

Where on earth did the whole Tobirama's reflexes and reaction speed "trump" Minatos lol.

Now I for one have always thought they were even in that department. Kishi made it clear who was faster by actually writing it himself so that it could be easily established. But in terms if reaction speed, kishi has not indicated any such thing as to who is superior in this department. What kishi has done has is have both characters praise each other on their "striking" speed as viz put it. So let's not try and fanboy here, I love Tobirama almost more that third Raikage but that does not mean I should make things up.

 

[xxxLegacy]

Can you explain how

We have explained it 100 Times they are 20+ Threads about Minato vs Tobirama ^^
Tobirama has no chance .

 

[xxxLegacy]

Minato got their via teleportation aka shunshin aka body flicker. Footspeed, Minato trumps Tobirama. Tobirama trumps Minato in reaction speed. Their FTG is equal unless you are facing a tailed beast or you need to transport a shinobi alliance, since Tobirama cannot transport multiple people or multiple bijuudama. Other than that, they are pretty much equal. Tobirama has better intelligence, battle tactics, experience, sensory powers, and chakra whereas Minato has better kuchiyose, fuuinjutsu, and hand seals.

I am pretty sure Minato is said to be a genius that appears once in a while. ! And Tobirama ?
Minato > Tobirama in intelligence/battle tactics (often proved)

Sensory Powers , looool Tobirama needs 2 Finger and Minato 1 U_U that says it all
Minato > Tobirama at Sensory Powers

Here we are again by Chakra.
Minato has must be a bunch of BASE-CHAKRA cuz he is able to use SM = PROOF
and whats about Tobirama ?

Show me a proof that he must have more Chakra than a perfect SM User U_U

I refuted your all arguments......next try =D

 

[Minator93]

Minato has FTG seal on Naruto's seal.

Minato doesn't.

If you're talking about that time when Naruto was getting drained by the God-Tree and Tobirama asked "Fourth can you teleport to Naruto?" and Minato said he was out of chakra.

Well that particular teleportation was based on "Chakra-Link" Minato and Naruto's chakra were linked or rather Minato had formed that link. And we know that Minato can teleport to anything or teleport anything that comes into direct/in-direct contact with his chakra.

There are many other instances that prove Minato doesn't have FTG seal on Naruto.

Also given the fact that FTG seal never disappears, there was always a chance of someone learning Minato's Hiraishin and then that person would own Naruto no matter what, Minato won't act recklessly he won't leave the marking on his child when he was committing suicide.

 

[Memento Mori]

How many time gonna this thread is created??

 

[Nagato The Sage]

Alive Minato takes this High Diff.

Minato doesn't.

If you're talking about that time when Naruto was getting drained by the God-Tree and Tobirama asked "Fourth can you teleport to Naruto?" and Minato said he was out of chakra.

Well that particular teleportation was based on "Chakra-Link" Minato and Naruto's chakra were linked or rather Minato had formed that link. And we know that Minato can teleport to anything or teleport anything that comes into direct/in-direct contact with his chakra.

There are many other instances that prove Minato doesn't have FTG seal on Naruto.

Also given the fact that FTG seal never disappears, there was always a chance of someone learning Minato's Hiraishin and then that person would own Naruto no matter what, Minato won't act recklessly he won't leave the marking on his child when he was committing suicide.

Clown. the Kyuubi said that Mianto's seal was in the Hakke Fuin seal.

 

[Minator93]

Alive Minato takes this High Diff.

Clown. the Kyuubi said that Mianto's seal was in the Hakke Fuin seal.

Lel is that's the case show me the exact Viz scan of it

 

[Nagato The Sage]

Lel is that's the case show me the exact Viz scan of it

Im not gonna buy the volume to prove you wrong.

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[Ababeel]

Minato doesn't.

If you're talking about that time when Naruto was getting drained by the God-Tree and Tobirama asked "Fourth can you teleport to Naruto?" and Minato said he was out of chakra.

Well that particular teleportation was based on "Chakra-Link" Minato and Naruto's chakra were linked or rather Minato had formed that link. And we know that Minato can teleport to anything or teleport anything that comes into direct/in-direct contact with his chakra.

There are many other instances that prove Minato doesn't have FTG seal on Naruto.

Also given the fact that FTG seal never disappears, there was always a chance of someone learning Minato's Hiraishin and then that person would own Naruto no matter what, Minato won't act recklessly he won't leave the marking on his child when he was committing suicide.

I was talking about this actually

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and if you want viz translation

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[Stxluciferr]

I was talking about this actually

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This is irrelevant as I have already shown that FTG isn't how Minato got to the battlefield.


With that the idea that Minato's teleportation is faster should be put to rest, as there is no other way to prove it. With their FTG being equal it does not matter who the better sensor as the difference in the sensory skill between the two isn't going to be high enough to be a factor.

@xxxLegacy

Minato having more chakra than Tobirama? No. Tobirama flexed his chakra and it couldn't be contained by the room he was in. Not only that but Sm is more about chakra control, not amount. And Tobirama's genius was envied by Orochimaru which speaks volumes

If these were the only arguments you've been going by to put Minato over Tobirama then I'm convicted Tobirama takes this

 

[Avinash012]

Minato has a marking on Naruto as stated by Kyuubi but Minato clearly didn't use FTG to reach the battle field.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Minato mid diff.

 

[Avinash012]

I am pretty sure Minato is said to be a genius that appears once in a while. ! And Tobirama ?
Minato > Tobirama in intelligence/battle tactics (often proved)

Sensory Powers , looool Tobirama needs 2 Finger and Minato 1 U_U that says it all
Minato > Tobirama at Sensory Powers

Here we are again by Chakra.
Minato has must be a bunch of BASE-CHAKRA cuz he is able to use SM = PROOF
and whats about Tobirama ?

Show me a proof that he must have more Chakra than a perfect SM User U_U

I refuted your all arguments......next try =D

Tobirama is clearly a rare genius and is easily on the same level as people like Uchiha Itachi and Minato Namikaze.There are feats that clearly suggests that he is one of the smartest dudes in NV.Even now whole shinobi world is following Tobirama's foot steps.Chunin exams, ANBU and Ninja academy are more than enough proof.He derived high level as well as awsome jutsu's such as FTG,EDO tensei and Shadow clones jutsu.No other shinobi besides Tobirama managed to accomplish this much and no other shinobi's achivements are this much helpful to the shinobi world.Lel,even 90% of current war arc rides on this guys jutsu's and no need to mention about the level of his knowledge and how good he is when it comes to analyzing a battle and deriving strategies.Tobirama and Minato are more or less on par with eachother in this department or you can put Tobirama above Minato coz of his knowledge and experience.

Minato might be better than Tobirama when it comes to finger sensing but that dosen't mean that Minato is about Tobirama nor this point is going to help you to put him over Tobirama in this battle.Tobirama isn't a joke,he's easily one of top rated sensors in this manga.One of great sensing feats from Tobirama is that he can tell the name of a persons clan just by sensing his/her chakra which is something Minato never pulled but that dosen't mean that Minato can't pull the same though.In this department also they are more or less on par with eachother.There is nothing that puts Minato above Tobirama and vice versa.

Tobirama most likely has bigger chakra pool than Minato.Tobirama is a pure blooded Senju and is one of the most gifted one even among the Senju clan.He is the only one besides Hashirama who managed to shake whole room just by raising his chakra.He teleported two BM avatars like they were nothing which is more than enough to say that he is easly on par with if not better than Minato in terms of chakra.Even Hashirama whose chakra level is compatable to that of 100%Kyuubi managed to make 10-11 clones on the other hand Tobirama managed to pull two clones while holding the barrier implying that his pool is equal to atleast 1/5th of his brother which means that his pool is equal to 1/5th of 100% Kyuubi which is more than enough to put him above or on par with Minato.Chakra pool isn't a factor in a Minato vs Tobirama thread if you ask me.