Tobirama Vs Minato

[Valhorus]

Still can't use it moron. Minato the fodderKage isn't even in the same league as Lord Tobirama.

I'm insulting you? okkk sure.

No you are a minato fan claiming to be a tobirama fan to seem more credible

Tobirama doesn't have summonings what kind of hokage is that ? Let's play your game .

 

[Gold Lightning]

- Can't use Edo

- Can't use Suiton

- Pales in chakra amount

You said something about being an upgrade of Tobirama?

Tobirama:
- can't use rasengan

- can't use Uzumaki sealing jutsu

- can't use space time barrier

- can't use toad summonings

- can't use sage mode

See what I did there?NAND you know Gamabunta uses extremely powerful suiton right?

 

[xxxLegacy]

This guy thinks really he can argue with Tobirama against Minato hoooow stupid =D

 

[GeneralOuki]

Tobirama doesn't have summonings what kind of hokage is that ? Let's play your game .

Cause he don't need bunch of toads to saved his ass.

Tobirama

- can't use rasengan

- can't use Uzumaki sealing jutsu

- can't use space time barrier

- can't use toad summonings

See what I did there?NAND you know Gamabunta uses extremely powerful suiton right?

- Fodder technique
- Doesn't need to learn other clan's seals, when he can create them.
- Doesn't need toads to save his ass. No point in risking the Toad's lives.
- Even though him and Minato were going to use the barrier to teleport the juubi-damas?

 

[Royal Uchiha]

What a moron who thinks he knows about the character, but in reality underrates him like hell.



- Can't use Edo

- Can't use Suiton

- Pales in chakra amount

You said something about being an upgrade of Tobirama?

We haven't seen Minato using any elements yet, so we don't know yet. As for Edo Tensei, Minato has the Contract Seal.
Pales? Common we don't know anything about their chakra amount, the Second said that Minato's faster than him, but one thing for sure: Tobirama lost to Kinkaku and Ginkaku while Minato could seal the 9tails, this is a fact not a hype

 

[xxxLegacy]

Cause he don't need bunch of toads to saved his ass.


- Fodder technique
- Doesn't need to learn other clan's seals, when he can create them.
- Doesn't need toads to save his ass. No point in risking the Toad's lives.
- Even though him and Minato were going to use the barrier to teleport the juubi-damas?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah OK GUYS PLS DONT WASTE YOUR TIME WITH THIS NOOB

 

[GeneralOuki]

Fapboys Stay fappin.

We haven't seen Minato using any elements yet, so we don't know yet. As for Edo Tensei, Minato has the Contract Seal.
Pales? Common we don't know anything about their chakra amount, the Second said that Minato's faster than him, but one thing for sure: Tobirama lost to Kinkaku and Ginkaku while Minato could seal the 9tails, this is a fact not a hype

Contract Seal doesn't help against Edo tensei.

Tobirama breaks walls with just his chakra alone. Feat only replicated by Hashimoron (who did it to the whole room). So yea, Minato pales in chakra.


Being left on the verge of death by a whole group of shinobi who were Kage level clearly is something more bigger than Minato's selfish attempt at being the savior.

 

[xxxLegacy]

We haven't seen Minato using any elements yet, so we don't know yet. As for Edo Tensei, Minato has the Contract Seal.
Pales? Common we don't know anything about their chakra amount, the Second said that Minato's faster than him, but one thing for sure: Tobirama lost to Kinkaku and Ginkaku while Minato could seal the 9tails, this is a fact not a hype

and we dont even know if he has really fought against Kinkaku and Ginkaku hahhaahhah this is just a FANFIC so that the Fans can explain his defeat against 20 Shinobis O_O=D

 

[Narutimate Storm]

Still can't use it moron. Minato the fodderKage isn't even in the same league as Lord Tobirama.

I'm insulting you? okkk sure.

No you are a minato fan claiming to be a tobirama fan to seem more credible

So let me get this straight? I'm not a Tobirama fan because I can admit when my fav loses? You sir are ridiculous.

I'd rather people like you not ruin tobiramas character with your stupidity. You know nothing about me or what and who I like. Can't believe your arrogance.

 

[GeneralOuki]

So let me get this straight? I'm not a Tobirama fan because I can admit when my fav loses? You sir are ridiculous.

I'd rather people like you not ruin tobiramas character with your stupidity. You know nothing about me or what and who I like. Can't believe your arrogance.

Its people like you who ruin Minato's character with your wanking. Despite him being treated as a kid by Tobirama.

 

[Valhorus]

Cause he don't need bunch of toads to saved his ass.


- Fodder technique
- Doesn't need to learn other clan's seals, when he can create them.
- Doesn't need toads to save his ass. No point in risking the Toad's lives.
- Even though him and Minato were going to use the barrier to teleport the juubi-damas?

Please Stop cuz you are making Tobirama fans look bad and yes there are still some Tobirama fans on this site i respect but I don't respect fans like you who is bashing only .

 

[xxxLegacy]

Fapboys Stay fappin.



Contract Seal doesn't help against Edo tensei.

Tobirama breaks walls with just his chakra alone. Feat only replicated by Hashimoron (who did it to the whole room). So yea, Minato pales in chakra.


Being left on the verge of death by a whole group of shinobi who were Kage level clearly is something more bigger than Minato's selfish attempt at being the savior.

Ah ok now now they are even KAGE LEVEL aha hahahahaahaha it is called Kuchiyose: Edo Tensei .......man man man how dumb

 

[Dark Riku]

Minato defeats him.

 

[GeneralOuki]

Lel u are pathetic . Minato doesn't need to resurect dead shinobis to save his ass neither suiton to save his ass . Dance more . Tobirama never showed us a feat that he can S/T Barrier nice assumption .

But you just said he didn't have a summoning jutsu. Even though edo tensei is a summoning jutsu. You clearly don't know sh*t about the characters, stop arguing further. You have already been destroyed. '


When did Tobirama get the chance to use the barrier?

 

[Gold Lightning]

Cause he don't need bunch of toads to saved his ass.


- Fodder technique
- Doesn't need to learn other clan's seals, when he can create them.
- Doesn't need toads to save his ass. No point in risking the Toad's lives.
- Even though him and Minato were going to use the barrier to teleport the juubi-damas?

Lol, you know what. You aren't even worth it. Keep getting angry at everyone who doesn't agree with you.

 

[xxxLegacy]

But you just said he didn't have a summoning jutsu. Even though edo tensei is a summoning jutsu. You clearly don't know sh*t about the characters, stop arguing further. You have already been destroyed. '


When did Tobirama get the chance to use the barrier?

One post previously you fapboy saying Contract Seal doesn't help against Edo tensei and now you are saying it is also a summoning jutsu ? Man are you drunk or what?

 

[Valhorus]

But you just said he didn't have a summoning jutsu. Even though edo tensei is a summoning jutsu. You clearly don't know sh*t about the characters, stop arguing further. You have already been destroyed. '


When did Tobirama get the chance to use the barrier?

Tobirama ET feats = 0 except the one he destroyed himself . Still deosnt change the fact he hasn't used ST Barrier . By the same logic I can say Minato can use suiton but it is just that he didn't need to use it till now .

 

[xxxLegacy]

Tobirama ET feats = 0 except the one he destroyed himself . Still deosnt change the fact he hasn't used ST Barrier . By the same logic I can say Minato can use suiton but it is just that he didn't need to use it till now .

lol Tobirama had a lot chances to use S/T barrier , but he can not use a barrier. No FEATS

 

[Ababeel]

Minato & Tobirama.

In Term of Jutsus.

Both of these ninja are relying heavily on their teleporting jutsus, FTG. However, Minato is greater than Tobirama with the teleporting jutsus as Tobirama admitted in two places, [

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Not only that, but Tobirama even praised Minato for being fast at striking as well [

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As for defenses cases, Minato's greatest defensive moves is his S/T barrier which can deal with moves as strong and the TBB [

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About shunshin. Minato still has some of the best feats in the manga; [

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]. Crossing Konoha in no time, stopping kakashi before he could even move his hand, and separating the Kunais before the Hokages even arrive. On the other hand, Tobirama has none, except taking the black orb off panel, which cannot be taken seriously.

That's in term of their teleportation jutsus (other than the Water Wall) which they rely on heavily. Both of them are sensor type ninje, they can sense the chakra by their fingers or not. Minato can sense with even one finger [

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As for offensive moves, Tobirama also has his Water Severing Wave which was able to cut throw some of the Tree's branches [

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], so it does not really prove how powerful this jutsu is. Minato on the other hand has his Rasengan that was able to damage obito's heavily despite he has Hashirama's cells, but he lost his arm and the earth service underneath him was completely destroyed [

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Another jutsu that Tobirama has is his Water Dragon [

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One of Tobirama's most powerful jutses is Edo Tensei. However, he does not really have feats with it, and we have no idea what kind of people that he can summon. However, we know that by Kabuto's statement even Oro's part 1 ET was greater than that of Tobirama's [

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], so I would assume that Tobirama's ET was not meant for the power of the summoned people, but rather for his strongest offensive move which is Mutually Multiplying Explosive Tags, which was implied by Madara as well [

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Now, Minato also has a summoning jutsu, but instead of summoning the dead, he summons the frogs. Unlike the Tobirama's case we actually know the frogs and we know their jutsus.

As Tobirama's feats and jutsus stop as far as this. Minato has shown a great mastery over the sealing jutsus that he can do some even with on hand.

Minato also has
Chakra Transfer Technique
Dead Demon Consuming Seal
Four Symbols Seal
Eight Trigrams Sealing Style
Sage Mode

besides his unrevealed jutsu the Spiralling Flash Super Round Dance Howl Participate Formula. That's without going to the other things like their hype and battles ...etc


In Term of Battles.

we either have some scan of their battles, or not even a complete fights. Therefore, I will rely on, both the scans we have about the fight, and the statements that were made for the given fights.

First of all, one of the fights we know about Tobirama is the fact that he fought Kin & Gin. One of the fights he fought with them was a surprised attack against him and the 2nd Raikage with him, as a result of this fight Tobirama got almost killed by them [

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While also we know that Kin & Gin have Kurama's chakra within them, but we know that Kinkaku does not use it unless someone has taken Ginkaku out according to Kakuzu [

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On the other hand, Minato fought against A & B several times, a team which was stated to be superior and the strongest team in Kumo [

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]. Current B, was trembling just because Naruto's mentioned his father's name, he won't tremble if Minato was inferior or equal to him. Not to mention he was not fighting Minato alone, but with A along side him, so that's enough to be sure that he's alone can't deal with Minato, otherwise he would destroy Minato with A! Anyway, A also admitted inferiority to Minato [

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Other battle is almost one scan, which is Tobirama's battle against Izuna [

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Izuna in that scan was not even using his MS, so I think it's save to assume that Tobirama had the edge because
Izuna's chakra became low that he couldn't keep his sharingan activated anymore. In top of that we do not even know
how powerful Izuna was to begin with. It also worth to mention that the translation that some of Tobirama's fans use to
prove Izuna's power is actually wrong, itachi (whom his knowledge in that regard was proven to be wrong) did not say that Izuna was as powerful as madara, but rather they were training together [

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Minato on the other hand fought against Obito who was trained by madara as well. Not only that but he also has Hashi's cells and he was controlling Kurama, whi was attacking the village. In top of that he attacked Minato off gourd, yet he still got his ass handled to him. Even though he has a superior jutsu to both Minato and Tobirama's s/t jutsus.

So, once again Minato fought superior foes to that of Tobirama.

We also know that ET Tobirama with his brother and Oro fought against old Hiruzen. Which he also ended up losing the fight
it is true that he was not at his full power, but so was Hiruzen, and even if we ignored that, it's still one of his battles.

On the other hand Minato was fighting on the 3rd war and pretty much changing the entire result from Konoha losing the war to konoha winning the war, and it was even stated that he ended his battled in a blink of an eye. As we know that in the front line, there were 1000 shinobi as Minato stated [

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In Term of Intelligent.

Both of the Hokages are considered to be intelligent. First, Minato is said to be a genius that appears once in a while [

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In term of analyzing the foe's jutsus, Minato has shown some of the best feats as well. First of all, he analyzed Kakashi's chidori from the first time he saw it [

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]. Which took Naruto, kakashi, guy, and B a lot more time to find out about, and a lot of team work to overwhelm Kamui so to speak. Minato's feats continue that in the War when obito trapped them, and Tobirama tried to come with a solution, Minato gave a better solution than that of Tobirama [

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In term of jutsus, he created the Rasengan, Rasen-Flash Super-Circle Dance Howl Stage Three, S/T barrier, and improved the FTG to a higher degree than Tobirama. Also, according to the DT3 he was creating the jutsu after the other [

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Tobirama's feats, is he thought of building a lot of constructors for Konoha [

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In Term of Hype.

Tobirama some hype going for him.
1- From the ANBU [

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2- Danzo [

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3- Madara [

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So, Tobirama was the fastest during his area, and was the strongest in the village when he was the Hokage.

Minato has a lot of hype as well.

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In Conclusion, Minato is superior by feats, hype, and portrayed.

 

[Royal Uchiha]

Okay because you're so confident of Tobirama mid-diffing Minato:

Minato's FTG is better, been said by Tobirama and it was also seen in the Manga.

Minato can use the Contract seal (and yes it works agianst Edo Tensei, Edo = SUMMONING, 9tails was summoned by Madara and freed by Minato), putting that besides he knows other Uzumaki seals which are known to control the Nine Tails let alone Edo Tensei that is way weaker as Kabuto's version.

Minato has SM, he just spams Toads that are good with Suiton Jutsu's, there goes Tobirama's upperhand in Suiton.

By terms of intelligence they are nearly equal, but if Tobirama is smarter, it's by a feather.

I don't see Tobirama winning in no way let alone with mid diff, but if you still think the same this case is lost and you're officially declared as a confident stubborn fool.