Tobirama Vs Minato

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What a moron who thinks he knows about the character, but in reality underrates him like hell.



- Can't use Edo

- Can't use Suiton

- Pales in chakra amount

You said something about being an upgrade of Tobirama?


This right here...alive minato greatest feat was barely beating 16 year old obito, the same obito he wouldn't have beat a few years later when he took out the Uchiha clan
 

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This right here...alive minato greatest feat was barely beating 16 year old obito, the same obito he wouldn't have beat a few years later when he took out the Uchiha clan

Even there he would defeat him with no problem , the age plays no role dude look at Sasuke/Naruto 17 Years old and will defeat a HOLY GOD ;) nice try hater
 

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Okay because you're so confident of Tobirama mid-diffing Minato:

Minato's FTG is better, been said by Tobirama and it was also seen in the Manga.

Minato can use the Contract seal (and yes it works agianst Edo Tensei, Edo = SUMMONING, 9tails was summoned by Madara and freed by Minato), putting that besides he knows other Uzumaki seals which are known to control the Nine Tails let alone Edo Tensei that is way weaker as Kabuto's version.

Minato has SM, he just spams Toads that are good with Suiton Jutsu's, there goes Tobirama's upperhand in Suiton.

By terms of intelligence they are nearly equal, but if Tobirama is smarter, it's by a feather.

I don't see Tobirama winning in no way let alone with mid diff, but if you still think the same this case is lost and you're officially declared as a confident stubborn fool.

ok just about everything in quotes is an assumption or just wrong. Contract seals are different from edo tensi for one contract seals indicates that there is an agreement their is no such stipulation in edo tensi you just work for the summoner. Second 9 tails wasn't freed from Madara he was just sealed in naruto thats why when he tried to summon him the 9 tails felt and then became scared and started helping naruto because if naruto dies he goes straight to madara

you have yet to come up with a counter to edo tensi the only cannon evidence that we have about minato using seals is ftg and death reaper seal one can't seal edo tensi and the other results in his death.

We have no proof that alive minato can use shadow clones but the 2nd can he's the creator of that jutsu too

Unlike kabuto who at the end of the day is a coward, the 2nd has attacks made just for edo tensi so he can be on the battlefield fighting and having them attack reason as to why his may be weaker he's less dependent on it, Kabuto needs his fighters to be stronger and closely bound to himself so he can hide in the shadows and them fight for him.

Plus the second is an actual senju so his chakra will be much larger than Minato, so in addition to 2nd having a larger arsenal he more endurance that minato how does 4th beat the second and it not be an ass pull seriously
 

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Even there he would defeat him with no problem , the age plays no role dude look at Sasuke/Naruto 17 Years old and will defeat a HOLY GOD ;) nice try hater

dude his body was complete yet, he lost to one resengan, naruto's resengan is more powerful than minato's, obito has taken two of these point blank range and is still fighting MINATO GETS STOMPED BY OBITO
 

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ok just about everything in quotes is an assumption or just wrong. Contract seals are different from edo tensi for one contract seals indicates that there is an agreement their is no such stipulation in edo tensi you just work for the summoner. Second 9 tails wasn't freed from Madara he was just sealed in naruto thats why when he tried to summon him the 9 tails felt and then became scared and started helping naruto because if naruto dies he goes straight to madara

you have yet to come up with a counter to edo tensi the only cannon evidence that we have about minato using seals is ftg and death reaper seal one can't seal edo tensi and the other results in his death.

We have no proof that alive minato can use shadow clones but the 2nd can he's the creator of that jutsu too

Unlike kabuto who at the end of the day is a coward, the 2nd has attacks made just for edo tensi so he can be on the battlefield fighting and having them attack reason as to why his may be weaker he's less dependent on it, Kabuto needs his fighters to be stronger and closely bound to himself so he can hide in the shadows and them fight for him.

Plus the second is an actual senju so his chakra will be much larger than Minato, so in addition to 2nd having a larger arsenal he more endurance that minato how does 4th beat the second and it not be an ass pull seriously

Can you please show me the agreement between Kurama and Obito please ? A contract seal is basically a seal with which a summoner loses his control over his summon. Edo Tensei Zombies are the summons used by the Jutsu caster after all. So if Oro or Kabuto/Tobirama gets marked with Contract seal they'll lose their control over the edo shinobis. And for Kabuto/Oro/Tobirama to get that control back they'll need to put the formula that controls edo corpses physically (Credits to Minator) .

Lol Really we have no Proof Minato can use clones do u even have a brain ? Minato has LARGE Chakra Pool . Cuz that is needed to be Perfect Sage and he is. Keep denying manga facts.
 
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ok just about everything in quotes is an assumption or just wrong. Contract seals are different from edo tensi for one contract seals indicates that there is an agreement their is no such stipulation in edo tensi you just work for the summoner. Second 9 tails wasn't freed from Madara he was just sealed in naruto thats why when he tried to summon him the 9 tails felt and then became scared and started helping naruto because if naruto dies he goes straight to madara

you have yet to come up with a counter to edo tensi the only cannon evidence that we have about minato using seals is ftg and death reaper seal one can't seal edo tensi and the other results in his death.

We have no proof that alive minato can use shadow clones but the 2nd can he's the creator of that jutsu too

Unlike kabuto who at the end of the day is a coward, the 2nd has attacks made just for edo tensi so he can be on the battlefield fighting and having them attack reason as to why his may be weaker he's less dependent on it, Kabuto needs his fighters to be stronger and closely bound to himself so he can hide in the shadows and them fight for him.

Plus the second is an actual senju so his chakra will be much larger than Minato, so in addition to 2nd having a larger arsenal he more endurance that minato how does 4th beat the second and it not be an ass pull seriously

lol how dumn are you ? Wtf to say a Hokage could not use clones it is a ****ing Chūnin Level Skill and Minato is a Hokage..... pls go away (only a hater would say that )

Just cuz Tobirama is a Senju it does not mean he has automatically more Chakra tzzz.
 

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Tobirama:
- can't use rasengan

- can't use Uzumaki sealing jutsu

- can't use space time barrier

- can't use toad summonings

- can't use sage mode

See what I did there?NAND you know Gamabunta uses extremely powerful suiton right?

how much of that can he use before he runs out of chakra, he was running out during the obito/9 tail fight with help
 

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ok just about everything in quotes is an assumption or just wrong. Contract seals are different from edo tensi for one contract seals indicates that there is an agreement their is no such stipulation in edo tensi you just work for the summoner. Second 9 tails wasn't freed from Madara he was just sealed in naruto thats why when he tried to summon him the 9 tails felt and then became scared and started helping naruto because if naruto dies he goes straight to madara

you have yet to come up with a counter to edo tensi the only cannon evidence that we have about minato using seals is ftg and death reaper seal one can't seal edo tensi and the other results in his death.

We have no proof that alive minato can use shadow clones but the 2nd can he's the creator of that jutsu too

Unlike kabuto who at the end of the day is a coward, the 2nd has attacks made just for edo tensi so he can be on the battlefield fighting and having them attack reason as to why his may be weaker he's less dependent on it, Kabuto needs his fighters to be stronger and closely bound to himself so he can hide in the shadows and them fight for him.

Plus the second is an actual senju so his chakra will be much larger than Minato, so in addition to 2nd having a larger arsenal he more endurance that minato how does 4th beat the second and it not be an ass pull seriously

Do you see that ? It is Kuchiyose no Jutsu , and Edo Tensei is also a Kuchiyose no Jutsu. And do you actually know what Contract Seal is ??? you're pathetic
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lol how dumn are you ? Wtf to say a Hokage could not use clones it is a ****ing Chūnin Level Skill and Minato is a Hokage..... pls go away (only a hater would say that )

Just cuz Tobirama is a Senju it does not mean he has automatically more Chakra tzzz.

tsuande is hokage
shadow clones is a forebidden tech every can't nor do they use, and its also an A class tech if im not mistaken and they weren't teaching shadow clones at the academy

and yes being a senju does automatically make you have a large charka pool that is keeki gekki of the senju
 

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tsuande is hokage
shadow clones is a forebidden tech every can't nor do they use, and its also an A class tech if im not mistaken and they weren't teaching shadow clones at the academy

and yes being a senju does automatically make you have a large charka pool that is keeki gekki of the senju

Minato already showed he can use shadow clones . Being a perfect sage also gives you larger chakra reserves these arguments you are posting are invalid .
 

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tsuande is hokage
shadow clones is a forebidden tech every can't nor do they use, and its also an A class tech if im not mistaken and they weren't teaching shadow clones at the academy

and yes being a senju does automatically make you have a large charka pool that is keeki gekki of the senju

OMG OMG OMG OMG How can shadow clones be a forebidden tech, when they teach you this Jutsu in the Ninja-Academy ? U_U

Are you kidding me? :noes:

How you can say cuz of that Name he should for sure have much more Chakra as Minato, unbelievably what for shit you are saying.

Incredible that I really waste my time with this post .

To master the Sennin Moode you need a big bunch of Base-Chakra than you can gather Senchakra.

Hashirama (Senju) has SM.
Naruto (Senju***) has SM.
Minato has also a perfect SM.
Jiraya has a imperfect SM.

It is said that Senjus have much chakra, YES RIGHT.
But is also said that Kakashi can use 1000+ Jutsus, that Hiruzen was the God of the Shinobis - that he can use every Konoha-Jutsu. It was also said that you would die when you use 8 Gates , is was also said anyone who was ever sealed in RDS can not escape, it was also said Hyūga-Clan is the strongest Clan , it was also said every Jinj would die after Bijuu extraction.

THESE ALL STATEMENTS HAVE NO EXACT EVIDENCE

But even in the CLAN the volume of Chakra is differential, not everyone has the same amount of a Hashirama. Hashirama is the best example for that , he has much more Chakra as anybody in the Clan ( WOOOW how can it be , they all have the NAME SENJU :rolleyes: )
Have not you noticed that even people outside from Senju-Clan can had more Chakra than Senjus ? (Kisame,A,3 Raikage and and and) that Clan-Name means nothing.

Why should then Minato have no more Chakra than Tobirama ? (cuz he is just a Senju is NO ARGUMENT this is NO PROOF )
But on the other hand, i have a Proof that Minato must have a lot of Base-Chakra cuz he was able to master SM PERFECT .(What would not be possible, if he had not a bunch of Base-Chakra)

Tsunade is also a Senju , do you think now she has (cuz only of the Name ) more Chakra than Minato or Naruto ?
Naruto is not a even a full Senju ,do you think that Tobirama for sure have much mooore Chakra as Naruto cuz he is a full Senju and Naruto not ?
And another thing, to this day we even dont know in what for Clan, Minato is .

THIS IS NO ARGUMENT TO SAY ONLY JUST HIS NAME IS ,,SENJU'' HE MUST HAVE CHAKRA LIKE A SM USER this is idiotically

Give me a proof that Tobirama has more Chakra then Minato_Out of to emphasize his Clan - Name ...i will wait

HATERS GONA HATE
You desperately tries to bash Minato, but you can not manage it :cool:
 
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Minato already showed he can use shadow clones . Being a perfect sage also gives you larger chakra reserves these arguments you are posting are invalid .

This NOOB means cuz Minato show this Jutsu only as Edo it does not count , hahahahahahaha.
Than dude Tobirama can also not use FTG, when we go by his dumb logic. He never show it befor, only as Edo , how sadly U_UU_UU_U
 

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Tobirama wins
 

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tsuande is hokage
shadow clones is a forebidden tech every can't nor do they use, and its also an A class tech if im not mistaken and they weren't teaching shadow clones at the academy

and yes being a senju does automatically make you have a large charka pool that is keeki gekki of the senju

aha they dont teach you Shadow Clons but you have to show it in the Academy looool

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Post something useful or get lost hater .

Satarn @ they can not this is the Point ^^ they have no one argument against Minato , and then this Noobs put Tobirama above him . If that is not fanboyism then i dont know what it means =DLOOOL
 

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tsuande is hokage
shadow clones is a forebidden tech every can't nor do they use, and its also an A class tech if im not mistaken and they weren't teaching shadow clones at the academy

and yes being a senju does automatically make you have a large charka pool that is keeki gekki of the senju
It is Multishadow clone jutsu which was forbidden not Shadowclone jutsu.There is a difference b/w those two jutsu's and there is a difference b/w kekkei genkai and the abilities you gain by being a member of a clan.Tobirama most likely has bigger chakra pool than Minato but that dosen't mean that Minato is far below Tobirama nor that argument would help you to put Tobirama over Minato.
 
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