[VS] Tobirama vs Itachi

[Penguin]

Distance: 30m
Intent: To kill
Knowledge: Full on each side
Location: Hidden Leaf outskirts. Grassy terrain, no water source.

Tobirama is limited to two Edo's that are Jounin rank.

Who wins?

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[Professor Finesser]

Tobirama solos

 

[KidGamer65]

Itachi wins. Tobirama's fodder Edo Zombies can be swiftly sealed away via Totsuka blade. Susanoo can tank his Multiplying Paper Bomb attack if he ever gets it off. Once the Edos have been sealed away, he can revert to a ribcage Susanoo as Tobirama really has nothing to damage it let alone break it.

He needs more freedom with his Hiraishin, cause right now, all we know is that he can mark things, which won't be helpful against a guy who can pressure him the whole match with Susanoo's limbs and with Amaterasu.

I believe that if he shows some way to use it as freely as Minato does with his Kunai, that he can take this high diff. If not, he'll have to show something else to let him beat Itachi.

 

[Zexion~]

*sigh* another one of these

Tobirama can only warp things he marks ....Which means he gets wrecked while trying to mark Itachi, Not to mention he may even be one shotted still by Ame If he can't move fast enough

 

[Penguin]

Just making sure. Nice posts.

 

[Fodder#4]

Amaterasu GG.

But nah, Itachi will win thanks to his genjutsu in my opinion. It's his primary weapon, I see a repeated use of Genjutsu and then either an exploding clone feint or such could deal with the Aquatic Senju.

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

You guys do know tobirama only came up for the bases with Edo Tensei, right? He never mastered it.

 

[Wave.]

Itachi wins. Tobirama's fodder Edo Zombies can be swiftly sealed away via Totsuka blade. Susanoo can tank his Multiplying Paper Bomb attack if he ever gets it off. Once the Edos have been sealed away, he can revert to a ribcage Susanoo as Tobirama really has nothing to damage it let alone break it.

He needs more freedom with his Hiraishin, cause right now, all we know is that he can mark things, which won't be helpful against a guy who can pressure him the whole match with Susanoo's limbs and with Amaterasu.

I believe that if he shows some way to use it as freely as Minato does with his Kunai, that he can take this high diff. If not, he'll have to show something else to let him beat Itachi.

Tobirama is familiar with Enton so by default should be familiar with Amaterasu [

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] add in the fact that Tobirama can sense Amaterasu coming by sensing Itachi focusing his chakra on his eyes [

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], then I don't see what stops Tobirama from using Hiraishin to get away or even out run it. Also Minato was hit by Sasuke's and Naruto's Jutsu but wasn't burned by Amaterasu after he got Hiraishin'd [

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Tobirama should be able to teleport Susano'o the same way he did with Obito's TBB Ball thing [

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] or he could use Hiraishin Gōshun Mawashi no Jutsu with a Kage Bunshin.

Tobirama could make Kage Bunshins, add in his Senju chakra pool, and he should be able to create a lot, all of which has his swords which he can mark and spread it around like Minato's Kunai.

*sigh* another one of these

Tobirama can only warp things he marks ....Which means he gets wrecked while trying to mark Itachi, Not to mention he may even be one shotted still by Ame If he can't move fast enough

Tobirama without Hiraishin was able to hold Obito's TBB Ball thing before KCM Minato could, with base speed alone U_U [

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] I'm sure he won't have problem dodging Amaterasu considering he can sense it and is familiar with it and has Hiraishin worst case scenario. Hiraishin doesn't teleport Amaterasu with the user btw.

Amaterasu GG.

But nah, Itachi will win thanks to his genjutsu in my opinion. It's his primary weapon, I see a repeated use of Genjutsu and then either an exploding clone feint or such could deal with the Aquatic Senju.

Genjutsu is countered by Kage Bunshin, Tsukuyomi won't hit Tobirama since he doesn't need eye contact to fight since he's a sensor, and he has intel, lets not forget he was fighting with the Uchiha ever since he was a kid. Exploding clone feints aren't really working since Tobirama can sense, he would be aware that there is a clone, Tobirama can easily Hiraishin out of it and Itachi can't really spam it when taking account he's chakra and stamina levels.

The rest of Itachi's arsenal aren't special, Katon: Gōkakyū no Jutsu, Katon: Hōsenka no Jutsu, Katon: Hōsenka Tsumabeni are countered by Suiton: Suiryūdan no Jutsu which Tobirama can perform with one handseal and is bigger, and of a higher rank than Itachi's Jutsu not to mention Suiton>Katon. Bunshin Daibakuha are simply Hiraishin'd out of or dodged considering Tobirama has full intel. Even if Susano'o can't be teleported by Tobirama, it isn't hitting him and its just a matter of time until Itachi can't hold up it anymore and after that Tobirama can easily mark him and finish him off with Hiraishingiri or use his fodder Edo to perform Gojō Kibaku Fuda or even just decapitate him.

 

[Prince Charles]

Itachi has the capability and means to take this match with a high diff. People also forget that itachi can also perform Kage bushin which means clones with sussano and Amamterasu and Tysukytomi.

 

[Bogard]

Besides the fact Tobirama's hiraishin is not as adaptable as Minato's because of the use of kunais, Tobirama's seems slower as well. He takes

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after teleporting to touch the target in the contrary

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. Maybe it's for that reason he wasn't that famed with it(not sure).

But Tobirama still has sensing abilities which is a great advantage while facing Sharingan users since they are capable

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from their eye in order to prevent from attack. Judging by

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scale of

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plus the fact Yata mirror can only protect from one side, i'm not totally sure Itachi's final Susanoo would protect effectively against that and even if it did, pretty sure it would be totally annihilated in the end, and Tobirama has 2edos here. While it's true Totsuka can seal edos, it actually has to hit the edos in question through the torso in order to connect with the soul. If he manages to, good for him, but it's not as if it would be as easy as some people make it seem. They are not blind immobile target like Nagato was.

Furthermore, like Rivaille explained, during this chapter, Tobirama managed to teleport Obito during this chapter

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, which once again prove that Hiraishin can swap places(Susanoo/Susanoo) user without the other since the Susanoo user

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to his chakra based attack. With the use of clone, Tobirama has the means to bypass the defense. Although like i've said earlier, Tobirama's Hiraishin seems a tad slower and not really adaptable, so this method would be difficult to work. What could give him an advantage though is the fact that Itachi has no knowledge on him when he spent his entire life fighting Uchihas day and night and thus knowing majority of their jutsus(Amaterasu, Susanoo and so on)

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Itachi has the capability and means to take this match with a high diff. People also forget that itachi can also perform Kage bushin which means clones with sussano and Amamterasu and Tysukytomi.

Kage Bushins spread the remaining chakra of an individual evenly out between the clones. Itachi can only use MS techniques three times a day without risk of death, hell, an Itachi at 30% couldn't even use MS techniques once so what you are suggesting is impossible.

OT: Full intel? Stacked, absolutely in Tobirama's favour.

* Limited use of three MS techniques before his life is in danger.

* Amaterasu can be sensed by Tobirama and evaded via Hirashin.

* Tsukuyomi won't factor as Tobirama has intel and can theoretically fight with his eyes closed due to being a sensor.

* Katon will not even factor as its weak against Suiton.

* Living Itachi (Magical prime was never specified.) can't maintain Susano'o for extended periods without dying, eluding to the chance that even if he offs Tobirama with Totsuka - who has full intel (As does Itachi.) he will die during or after the fight. If he were to pump out Susano'o Tobirama can merely hold his distance as the moment Itachi uses it he's acting on limited time.

Tobirama's Kage Bushins are capable of using Hirashin, albeit at a slower rate than Itachi. Not only can the Edos mark Itachi - the result of which when contact is made with the Yata mirror can only be speculated at, the fact Yata seems to only be able to cover one side may factor, but also either the Bushins or Tobirama himself; once contact is made they can simply teleport Itachi's Susano'o away from him leaving him exposed.

All in all, Tobirama's superior Chakra reserves alow him the possibility of outlasting Itachi. The physical strains of Susano'o on Itachi along with his overusing of the MS is what killed him the last time, Tobirama can push him just like Sasuke did.

That's me being brief and constrained to a crappy smart phone at any rate.

 

[Prince Charles]

Oh kaaant.. Your so lucky im on my android phone right now or I'd disgrace your ass so bad. xd

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Sheesh, Tobirama fans go hard. Regardless, Itachi still got this though.

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[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Ey bro, so am I.

 

[zamki]

Tobirama is familiar with Enton so by default should be familiar with Amaterasu [

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] add in the fact that Tobirama can sense Amaterasu coming by sensing Itachi focusing his chakra on his eyes [

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], then I don't see what stops Tobirama from using Hiraishin to get away or even out run it. Also Minato was hit by Sasuke's and Naruto's Jutsu but wasn't burned by Amaterasu after he got Hiraishin'd [

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]

Tobirama should be able to teleport Susano'o the same way he did with Obito's TBB Ball thing [

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] or he could use Hiraishin Gōshun Mawashi no Jutsu with a Kage Bunshin.

Tobirama could make Kage Bunshins, add in his Senju chakra pool, and he should be able to create a lot, all of which has his swords which he can mark and spread it around like Minato's Kunai.

Tobirama without Hiraishin was able to hold Obito's TBB Ball thing before KCM Minato could, with base speed alone U_U [

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][

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] I'm sure he won't have problem dodging Amaterasu considering he can sense it and is familiar with it and has Hiraishin worst case scenario. Hiraishin doesn't teleport Amaterasu with the user btw.

Genjutsu is countered by Kage Bunshin, Tsukuyomi won't hit Tobirama since he doesn't need eye contact to fight since he's a sensor, and he has intel, lets not forget he was fighting with the Uchiha ever since he was a kid. Exploding clone feints aren't really working since Tobirama can sense, he would be aware that there is a clone, Tobirama can easily Hiraishin out of it and Itachi can't really spam it when taking account he's chakra and stamina levels.

The rest of Itachi's arsenal aren't special, Katon: Gōkakyū no Jutsu, Katon: Hōsenka no Jutsu, Katon: Hōsenka Tsumabeni are countered by Suiton: Suiryūdan no Jutsu which Tobirama can perform with one handseal and is bigger, and of a higher rank than Itachi's Jutsu not to mention Suiton>Katon. Bunshin Daibakuha are simply Hiraishin'd out of or dodged considering Tobirama has full intel. Even if Susano'o can't be teleported by Tobirama, it isn't hitting him and its just a matter of time until Itachi can't hold up it anymore and after that Tobirama can easily mark him and finish him off with Hiraishingiri or use his fodder Edo to perform Gojō Kibaku Fuda or even just decapitate him.

Fail attempt to solo the thread :| Itachi >Tobirama.

 

[Optimistic]

Foolish Tobirama fans pairing him up against Shitachi just so everyone can respect his weak ass character.I'm not bothered about rep cause Tobirama clearly loses here the fact that his FTG and shunshin is worse than Minato's doesn't help either.Shitachi solos

 

[grizzlyshree]

let us see the coming chapter if Tobirama and Hiruzen show something new.

 

[illidanson]

Full knowledge??

Then i'm going with Itachi. As long as Itachi doesn't get hit by Tandem Explosive Tags (The one he used on Juubito) I don't see Itachi losing this. And with full knowledge he'd make sure not to get hit by this jutsu.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

He needs more freedom with his Hiraishin, cause right now, all we know is that he can mark things, which won't be helpful against a guy who can pressure him the whole match with Susanoo's limbs and with Amaterasu.

What do you mean the whole match?

We both know that he can't use 2 MS techniques after each other, since using Tsukuyomi crippled him and Amaterasu is even more straining.

After Itachi used Susanoo, Final version ( which he needs against edos ) he went nearly blind and could barely see.

As for Ribcage, while the Water Dragon jutsu will not destroy it, the water will simply carry him away or drown him. Susanoo obviously has holes in it, else the user would not be able to breathe.

 

[grizzlyshree]

have people forgotten that itachi is a suiton user as well? he and Kisame would be a good rival for tobirama