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[Wakizashi]

Re: Tobi is not an Uchiha.

TOBI..-> Hes sages older son, and dat's why he has both dna, has strong chakra, keeps Hashi as hes blood enemy and still praises him ( like sages son with physical energy younger=senju anc. wanted peace) and older with sages eyes uchiha anc. wanted war.) they fought once sage died or vanished somewhere because sage choosed YOUNGER (senju) to be hes successor)dat's why senju and uchiha was meant to fight and war eachother. it was their destiny.. hohoo.And ofc all add's he knows so much about sage himself,about 10tails and stuff, if he is sages older son (who had evolved rinnegan or smht) i think he could give nagato rinnegan quite easily. i cant tell this shit good cuz of my shitty england skillz xd but i think some of you get the picture.. and this is just BOREDOM Theory from me how things are.. ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE ME FANS!
:kagutsuchi: xd PEACEEEEEEEE... ->>

i am now lost by your theory.

 

[NOemotions]

Re: Tobi is not an Uchiha.

i am now lost by your theory.

Yes, i know you are.. I'm pleased to hear about that in fact hohohoho..

 

[Aze]

Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

Chronologically Obito is not supported. Not at all. Kakashi was 15 when Tobi attacked about 3 years after the Obito incident maybe less. Tobi by all means i doubt could have mastered Space time in 2 years and learned to control the Kyubi. Also gain 2 new sharingan because one was crushed the other given to kakashi.

Valid point + rep.

 

[Wakizashi]

Re: Tobi is not an Uchiha.

Yes, i know you are.. I'm pleased to hear about that in fact hohohoho..

is there a way that you can simplify your theory because in honesty i think that all theories are interesting

 

[Punk Hazard]

Re: Tobi is not an Uchiha.

are u an idiot... if he would have been tobirama then he would have known all secrets of Edo Tensei and would have done it by himself.... he would not have asked Kabuto for Edo tensei's details and all.....
really... you should concentrate while u read

more important, if he was tobi, he wouldnt have been summoned against the third

 

[NOemotions]

Re: Tobi is not an Uchiha.

is there a way that you can simplify your theory because in honesty i think that all theories are interesting

blurr...bluurr..blurr.. welll.. let's just say that i'm thinking all kind of things very realistic and with using brains, whole manga backs me up and wiki.. ofc im not 100% that my theory is correct one lol.. NO.. i just wanted to people hear my theory made by things ive been reading and thinking up. so.. FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.. do NOT Take this too SERIOUSLY xd haha

 

[Wakizashi]

Re: Tobi is not an Uchiha.

blurr...bluurr..blurr.. welll.. let's just say that i'm thinking all kind of things very realistic and with using brains, whole manga backs me up and wiki.. ofc im not 100% that my theory is correct one lol.. NO.. i just wanted to people hear my theory made by things ive been reading and thinking up. so.. FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.. do NOT Take this too SERIOUSLY xd haha

oh okay!! i think i understand now :shrug:

 

[FizzyDrink]

Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

Chronologically Obito is not supported. Not at all. Kakashi was 15 when Tobi attacked about 3 years after the Obito incident maybe less. Tobi by all means i doubt could have mastered Space time in 2 years and learned to control the Kyubi. Also gain 2 new sharingan because one was crushed the other given to kakashi.

Thank you, I hope people can finally stop with this Tobi is Obito theory, it's getting increasingly annoying.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Re: Tobi is not an Uchiha.

if i say something is baseless it is baseless end of story.

no, it just shows u are too much of a simpleton to come up with a response, or at least an intelligent one, so u post the most idiotic thing that comes to your mind. and that doesnt make you "cool", the fact that you just label anything against your opinion is false or baseless is one of the many things that shows our generation fails. you have no counterargument nor the intelligence to come up with one, so u just act like its dumb. its this kind of closeminded thinking that makes society ugly. its pointless to debate with u due to the fact that your idiotic arrogant ignorant thinking makes it impossible to respond properly.

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[The God of Wind]

Re: Tobi is not an Uchiha.

i really cant believe this thread............CLGGEQVN9JZ MXMFA5HZMLK 89VYW7SP94D

ok so those are three legit crunchyroll 2 week guest passes on me, please go watch some shippuden in hd, mainly the episode where madara tells sasuke about himself. and then decide who he is, you might think he is a liar but not every single word that comes out of his mouth is a lie........

 

[TiddlySkydiver]

Re: Tobi is not an Uchiha.

more important, if he was tobi, he wouldnt have been summoned against the third

True, but I wasn't meaning any of it seriously.

 

[Wakizashi]

Re: Tobi is not an Uchiha.

no, it just shows u are too much of a simpleton to come up with a response, or at least an intelligent one, so u post the most idiotic thing that comes to your mind. and that doesnt make you "cool", the fact that you just label anything against your opinion is false or baseless is one of the many things that shows our generation fails. you have no counterargument nor the intelligence to come up with one, so u just act like its dumb. its this kind of closeminded thinking that makes society ugly. its pointless to debate with u due to the fact that your idiotic arrogant ignorant thinking makes it impossible to respond properly.

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i agree with you. that would be an unreasonable conclusion.

 

[TobiIsYourMom]

Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

All True Naruto fans , think of Obito as a good guy , he aint Twisted like Tobi.


Kagami could have a motive , but not sure.

Look, I am a true naruto fan. Although, I'm different than the rest of you. I'm a Naruto fan that can acgtually process the fact that good characters can turn evil and vice-versa. (Shocking, aint it) If Obito's motive were revealed before-hand, that would ruin the suspense. And Lol, Kagami could have a motive? We don't know shit about him. How can you possibly derive a motive from that? Obito fits perfectly with Kishi's villain theme. I HIGHLY doubt that he would change his theme as he is very consistent with it.

Wow , this was an excelent explanation.

Tobi and Kisame , have these similarities , it's intresting.


:scorps:

xdxdxdxdYou don't think tobi is obito yet you think he is Obito;s father? That theory makes no sense. You really want Tobi to be a new character?

Chronologically Obito is not supported. Not at all. Kakashi was 15 when Tobi attacked about 3 years after the Obito incident maybe less. Tobi by all means i doubt could have mastered Space time in 2 years and learned to control the Kyubi. Also gain 2 new sharingan because one was crushed the other given to kakashi.

Apparently you haven't seen how tall Kakashi and guy were during that attack, implying that Obito could have been that tall too. Also, Itachi killed the Uchiha clan at the age of just 14 and yet he looked like a full grown man. Mastering the space-time ninjustu should be easy if it's his mangekyo technique. His right eye obviously survived as the boulder clearly didn't crush through his head. And, it's totally possible to transplant sharingans, you know.

 

[Maunten]

Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

Look, I am a true naruto fan. Although, I'm different than the rest of you. I'm a Naruto fan that can acgtually process the fact that good characters can turn evil and vice-versa. (Shocking, aint it) If Obito's motive were revealed before-hand, that would ruin the suspense. And Lol, Kagami could have a motive? We don't know shit about him. How can you possibly derive a motive from that? Obito fits perfectly with Kishi's villain theme. I HIGHLY doubt that he would change his theme as he is very consistent with it.


xdxdxdxdYou don't think tobi is obito yet you think he is Obito;s father? That theory makes no sense. You really want Tobi to be a new character?

Apparently you haven't seen how tall Kakashi and guy were during that attack, implying that Obito could have been that tall too. Also, Itachi killed the Uchiha clan at the age of just 14 and yet he looked like a full grown man. Mastering the space-time ninjustu should be easy if it's his mangekyo technique. His right eye obviously survived as the boulder clearly didn't crush through his head. And, it's totally possible to transplant sharingans, you know.

How can it not make any sense?

Look read this

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if you have any issues with it please say, I'll look into it or explain it if I already have an answer.

 

[FizzyDrink]

Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

Look, I am a true naruto fan. Although, I'm different than the rest of you. I'm a Naruto fan that can acgtually process the fact that good characters can turn evil and vice-versa. (Shocking, aint it) If Obito's motive were revealed before-hand, that would ruin the suspense. And Lol, Kagami could have a motive? We don't know shit about him. How can you possibly derive a motive from that? Obito fits perfectly with Kishi's villain theme. I HIGHLY doubt that he would change his theme as he is very consistent with it.


xdxdxdxdYou don't think tobi is obito yet you think he is Obito;s father? That theory makes no sense. You really want Tobi to be a new character?

Apparently you haven't seen how tall Kakashi and guy were during that attack, implying that Obito could have been that tall too. Also, Itachi killed the Uchiha clan at the age of just 14 and yet he looked like a full grown man. Mastering the space-time ninjustu should be easy if it's his mangekyo technique. His right eye obviously survived as the boulder clearly didn't crush through his head. And, it's totally possible to transplant sharingans, you know.

Let me tell you the fact that destroys the Obito theory, the Sasuke's father theory, the Obito's father theory, etc.

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See this page? Read it. Understand it. And forget your Obito theory.

It quite clearly expresses that UCHIHA MADARA KNOWS WHO TOBI IS. Do you know what that means? That it HAS to be someone old enough to have known Madara. They both planned the Moons Eye plan together. How in the world could that have been Obito???? That's just ridiculous.

The only people old enough to possibly be this person are Kagami, Izuna, or the Elder brother. Besides that, the only other possibility is that it's some random guy. So this whole thing should just boil down to it being one of these 4 possibilities, all others are impossible. Deal with it.

 

[Maunten]

Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

Let me tell you the fact that destroys the Obito theory, the Sasuke's father theory, the Obito's father theory, etc.

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See this page? Read it. Understand it. And forget your Obito theory.

It quite clearly expresses that UCHIHA MADARA KNOWS WHO TOBI IS. Do you know what that means? That it HAS to be someone old enough to have known Madara. They both planned the Moons Eye plan together. How in the world could that have been Obito???? That's just ridiculous.

The only people old enough to possibly be this person are Kagami, Izuna, or the Elder brother. Besides that, the only other possibility is that it's some random guy. So this whole thing should just boil down to it being one of these 4 possibilities, all others are impossible. Deal with it.

Obito's father can be as old as the third hokage who would have been old enough to know madara, his stamina can be explained by the fact that he is an uchiha they have higher physical strength than regular nin so age does not destroy this theory.

One more thing obito's father would have the warping sharingan which takes you to another dimension who knows who he can access in that dimension, I'm sorry but madara know obito is simply not enough, how can madara know nagato yet be resurrected as a middle aged madara when he would have to be around 70-80 years old to have know him?

Saying obito's father is impossible based on that is an example of a gross misconception of madaras timeline, by your theory it is impossible for madara to know nagato yet madara even knows nagato has the rinnegan.

 

[Aze]

Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

Look, I am a true naruto fan. Although, I'm different than the rest of you. I'm a Naruto fan that can acgtually process the fact that good characters can turn evil and vice-versa. (Shocking, aint it) If Obito's motive were revealed before-hand, that would ruin the suspense. And Lol, Kagami could have a motive? We don't know shit about him. How can you possibly derive a motive from that? Obito fits perfectly with Kishi's villain theme. I HIGHLY doubt that he would change his theme as he is very consistent with it.

Obito fits perfectly with Kishi's villain theme.

We can base our assumptions from examples given to us by Manga.

So far all Villains have been different by 180 degree(with little variety between).

xdxdxdxdYou don't think tobi is obito yet you think he is Obito;s father? That theory makes no sense. You really want Tobi to be a new character?

I sayed , I liked the Idea , I did not say I support it.

Apparently you haven't seen how tall Kakashi and guy were during that attack, implying that Obito could have been that tall too. Also, Itachi killed the Uchiha clan at the age of just 14 and yet he looked like a full grown man. Mastering the space-time ninjustu should be easy if it's his mangekyo technique. His right eye obviously survived as the boulder clearly didn't crush through his head. And, it's totally possible to transplant sharingans, you know.

Kakashi/Gai where about the same height as Naruto currently is = Obito could not have been so tall back then(Manga Proven).

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There is noticeable difference.

Also Itachi was not as tall as hes father back then.

:scorps:

 

[Maunten]

Re: Tobi is obito's father

Well I mean his timeline fits, his blood line fits, his motives fit, even his appearance fits... Maybe I'm not seeing what fizzydrink is seeing.

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[FizzyDrink]

Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

Obito's father can be as old as the third hokage who would have been old enough to know madara, his stamina can be explained by the fact that he is an uchiha they have higher physical strength than regular nin so age does not destroy this theory.

One more thing obito's father would have the warping sharingan which takes you to another dimension who knows who he can access in that dimension, I'm sorry but madara know obito is simply not enough, how can madara know nagato yet be resurrected as a middle aged madara when he would have to be around 70-80 years old to have know him?

Saying obito's father is impossible based on that is an example of a gross misconception of madaras timeline, by your theory it is impossible for madara to know nagato yet madara even knows nagato has the rinnegan.

Obito's father would most likely be younger the Third. Look at when the Kyuubi attacked the Leaf. Kakashi still looked very young, hardly older than when Obito died, so maybe 14-15. Yet Hiruzen was a good 56 years old. It obviously depends on how old Obito's dad was when he had Obito, but I would say he was maximum 30 years old. In which case he would be around ten years younger than Hiruzen, but with a much higher possibility of him being younger. Don't really know what this proves, but just trying to say that he is definitely younger, which makes this theory that much less likely.

How would he have warping abilities?

And also, about him knowing about Nagato, since the eyes were given to him from the beginning, my guess he was a test tube baby (kind of like Yamato) who was later implanted after Madara's death into a civilian by Tobi. Which would then make sense with the timeline. That's a weak part, I admit, but it makes sense, especially since Nagato has no scars on his eyes, meaning that he was born with them.

Nonetheless, I shall admit then that the Obito's dad idea is a possibility, but it is the least likely, since Kishi has given us absolutely NO background on him whatsoever, and he has done so with every other villain in the Manga. Same goes for Kagami, who we saw once and was never elaborated on.

 

[Aze]

Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

Obito's father would most likely be younger the Third. Look at when the Kyuubi attacked the Leaf. Kakashi still looked very young, hardly older than when Obito died, so maybe 14-15. Yet Hiruzen was a good 56 years old. It obviously depends on how old Obito's dad was when he had Obito, but I would say he was maximum 30 years old. In which case he would be around ten years younger than Hiruzen, but with a much higher possibility of him being younger. Don't really know what this proves, but just trying to say that he is definitely younger, which makes this theory that much less likely.

How would he have warping abilities?

And also, about him knowing about Nagato, since the eyes were given to him from the beginning, my guess he was a test tube baby (kind of like Yamato) who was later implanted after Madara's death into a civilian by Tobi. Which would then make sense with the timeline. That's a weak part, I admit, but it makes sense, especially since Nagato has no scars on his eyes, meaning that he was born with them.

Nonetheless, I shall admit then that the Obito's dad idea is a possibility, but it is the least likely, since Kishi has given us absolutely NO background on him whatsoever, and he has done so with every other villain in the Manga. Same goes for Kagami, who we saw once and was never elaborated on.

Yeah , that's Valid.

So far idk , I have feeling for : somekind of experiment , Izuna or Obitos father or a relative , or A Relative of Uchiha Madara.