[Theory] Tobi Is Really Izuna Uchiha?

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lol @ EMR.

Hyperion. seriously dude, stop with the flaw emoticon. Everytime i see you you have that up. Also, At first it listed him as dead, then they changed it to sealed. Everything is changeable as long as Kishi wants it to be changed.

Also, a second transferring of the eyes might be the reason that Madara/Tobi/Whoever Kishi chooses it to be has Izangi. you just never know.
 

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yea we all saw obito laying on the ground close to death but it never showed him as dead so its possible that obito had a bad history for growing up (if its obito) than some how turned evil and dicesided to be known as tobi than tobi as madara lol posible is up to kishi to tell us
 

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Ahahaha, where did Kishimoto say : "Hey mengz, I has an annoucement! Tobi is really Madara and you all tards should burn in hell for thinking that Tobi is Obito."

Obito is dead, he died during the 3rd ninja war, the theories on that Tobi is Obito is all false and plain stupid.

Those covers and pages just show us things like "Power of MADARA!", " Madara this and that", "blabla".

Manga is written by Kishimoto, the CREATOR of Naruto. There is no reason to lie about the cover text.

Only man(or plant) to know the truth behind Tobi is Zetsu and you know what? He never called him Madara.
OK, so let's think. Who should I believe? Bunch of deceived fools like Kisame and Pain or someone who really knows what's going on and Tobi's true identity?

Kisame has seen Madara's face 2 times. If you pay attention to what Zetsu's whole role is in the akatsuki and to Madara you would understand that he is the only one that knows the real truth to why Madara is hiding. Itachi knows that Madara is alive, so does Onoki, who fought alongside Madara.

Dude, just dont be a fool like everyone else in manga, don't be deceived by Tobi. That's exactly what he wants.

Yes, the Manga is totally real life and effects everyones thoughts towards him. he's so totally Obito, a 13 year old dead Uchiha that wears goggles so that dust doesn't make him cry.

Madara was the strongest ninja in the world. He even had EMS. He could tame tailed beasts like little puppies. No idea how did Hashirama beat him. That's a mystery yet to be solved. But he sure did like to fight.
Have you seen the face on 5 kages when Tobi told them he was Madara? They were shocked and frightened, Tsuchikage said Madara could have easily wiped the floor with their bodies. Who wouldn't want to go by this famous and powerful name?

Again, read the manga, the only reason the fight happened was so that Madara could get Hashirama's DNA. So please read the manga before saying "the fight hasn't been solved" Madara lost on purpose, used Izanagi to make everyone believe he was dead so he can plot his revenge int he future. Is it that hard to understand?

Now, let's look at Tobi.
A guy hidding beneath mask. Coward, pulling strings from shadows. Doesn't posses EMS or MS of Madara. Has Senju dna in him. His damaged body parts can be replaced easily. Can communicate with Black Zetsu who has no mouth.

Mask = Conceals his face(could be damaged or concealing his eyes. He uses Izanagi behind his mask. If people knew he was defenseless or damaged and couldn't defend himself properly they would attack him. he does Posses EMS. You don't lose your EMS.

Has eye manipulating powers similar to Shisuis (as stated by 5th Mizukage).
Posses unique space-time jutsus.
Killed all of his clan-members just to obtain their eyes and to get rid of dangerous opponents.

1 - Madara's genjutsu/ eye powers are advanced but he doesn't have Shisui's manipulating powers, the only reason he controlled the Mizukage/3 tails beast was because the tailed beasts are easily controlled by the sharingan, and the mizukage was a jinchuuriki during that time.
2 - Space time Justu is most likely copied and improved over the 2nd Hokage's technique.
3 - Killed all his clan members because Itachi wanted to prevent war against the ANBU/Konoha.


Now, tell me people, do you see any connection between those two?
Personally, I don't.

Only similarities they have is the black hair which almost every ninja have and the name.

And if Tobi really is Madara than he trully is but an former shell of himself.
A looser not worthy of the Uchiha name (c) Itachi.

A loser, the first to awaken his MS, the first to achieve EMS, Claimed victory over Senju Hashirama, Survived for 100 years, tamed the Nine Tails Demon Fox, Became the Mizukage, Has unbelievable powers, Created an organization with incredible Ninja's, virtually immortal, has great knowledge of Sage of Six paths, one of the Strongest ninja's to ever exist.

Most definitely a loser. Thanks for trying though!
Enjoy.
 

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@ON: look below your post.

@PE: :flaw:

Madara is Madara. Izuna is dead. Only thing Madara can claim is Izuna's are his eyes. Obito is dead. Only thing alive from Obito is the right eye in Kakashi's Eye Socket.
 

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The databooks are data on whats happened in the manga as "word of mouth." Ive seen them and personally it doesnt have giveaways as far as to future events.. Only up to what we already know to be true.

So i will still stand by my and Oraans theory..
 
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Ahahaha, where did Kishimoto say : "Hey mengz, I has an annoucement! Tobi is really Madara and you all tards should burn in hell for thinking that Tobi is Obito."

Those covers and pages just show us things like "Power of MADARA!", " Madara this and that", "blabla".

Only man(or plant) to know the truth behind Tobi is Zetsu and you know what? He never called him Madara.
OK, so let's think. Who should I believe? Bunch of deceived fools like Kisame and Pain or someone who really knows what's going on and Tobi's true identity?

Dude, just dont be a fool like everyone else in manga, don't be deceived by Tobi. That's exactly what he wants.

Madara was the strongest ninja in the world. He even had EMS. He could tame tailed beasts like little puppies. No idea how did Hashirama beat him. That's a mystery yet to be solved. But he sure did like to fight.
Have you seen the face on 5 kages when Tobi told them he was Madara? They were shocked and frightened, Tsuchikage said Madara could have easily wiped the floor with their bodies. Who wouldn't want to go by this famous and powerful name?

Now, let's look at Tobi.
A guy hidding beneath mask. Coward, pulling strings from shadows. Doesn't posses EMS or MS of Madara. Has Senju dna in him. His damaged body parts can be replaced easily. Can communicate with Black Zetsu who has no mouth.
Has eye manipulating powers similar to Shisuis (as stated by 5th Mizukage).
Posses unique space-time jutsus.
Killed all of his clan-members just to obtain their eyes and to get rid of dangerous opponents.

Now, tell me people, do you see any connection between those two?
Personally, I don't.

Only similarities they have is the black hair which almost every ninja have and the name.

And if Tobi really is Madara than he trully is but an former shell of himself.
A looser not worthy of the Uchiha name (c) Itachi.
Kisame, I'm kind of tired of seeing you bashing people's theories and posts, with nothing but wild speculation.

You tell others to read the manga, now I'm telling you to.

Post a link where it says that Madara Uchiha used Izanagi in his fight with Hashirama Senju.

Show me anything about the Madara Uchiha of legend that says he would throw a fight, and lose on purpose.

Show me anything about Tobi that says expressly and in no uncertain terms that he can not possibly be anyone except a 120 yearold ninja that somehow doesn't even have a single grey hair.

you can't, so stop passing them off as fact, because by your own logic, not a single one of them is proven.
 
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Izuna was said to die right after being confiscated of her eyes,
Said by who?? Oh yea Tobi, the liar right? hahaha

Things that are posted on websites and databooks are basically summarized timelimes and info about what has happened in the manga, and what has been filled in by "word of mouth"

As far as Madara & Izunas(A GUY) history has only been told by Tobi(THE LIAR) and Itachi..

Just because Itachi said it doesnt mean his info is the truth either. He said Madara took his bros eyes. Tobi (referring to himself as madara) said Izuna gave up his eyes for the sake of the clan..

Think about that one for a second...ill wait.:|
 

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Kisame, I'm kind of tired of seeing you bashing people's theories and posts, with nothing but wild speculation.

You tell others to read the manga, now I'm telling you to.

Post a link where it says that Madara Uchiha used Izanagi in his fight with Hashirama Senju.

Show me anything about the Madara Uchiha of legend that says he would throw a fight, and lose on purpose.

Show me anything about Tobi that says expressly and in no uncertain terms that he can not possibly be anyone except a 120 yearold ninja that somehow doesn't even have a single grey hair.

you can't, so stop passing them off as fact, because by your own logic, not a single one of them is proven.
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@ON: look below your post.

@PE: :flaw:

Madara is Madara. Izuna is dead. Only thing Madara can claim is Izuna's are his eyes. Obito is dead. Only thing alive from Obito is the right eye in Kakashi's Eye Socket.
madara lies allot dude he has before i wouldn't be surprise if he lied again
 

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Databooks have info provided by Kishi.
You can't accept that, than :flaw:

@PE: Well yeah. But Tobi is Madara. Obito has nothing to do with this.
 
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@hyp yea i know i wont say shit about izuna because i already know his dead plus madara took his eyes from him.... but i mean he always has his face covered if he is madara and the fact that we all think he is madara he wouldnt have to have the mask on still if we all supposedly know is him
 

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well that's ypo but remember in the manga when he was fighting konan how his right side of his body was hurt? maybe it is obito because bc ...... no nvm obito was cruched from his left.... no wait yea it could be obito and it also could be who cares for now lol
 

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<div class="bbWrapper">I guess u r right. who knows what is behind tobi's plan. He maybe be Izunz but there is a very little chance.</div>
 

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naw believe me not izuna he is dead for sure unless some ninja did a forbidden jutsu that we are not aware off
Well his mask is there for a reason. I obviously don't know why, but I do know this... He's Madara and no one else!
You both sound foolish right now..

You rather state that it is fat that Tobi is Madara, even though he is never revealed as madara.. That in itself is idiotic

If a dude wearing a mask with blonde hair and has the same speed as Minato, can do the rasengan appeared and called himself Minato, you two would be the first to believe it.

Your calling insufficient facts truth. Hes Tobi until PROVEN otherwise lol.. EVen though i have my theory i still dont even call him Madara because hes NEVER been revealed as him.

@ the both of you :flaw: I suggest you guys read up on perception..
 

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You both sound foolish right now..

You rather state that it is fat that Tobi is Madara, even though he is never revealed as madara.. That in itself is idiotic

If a dude wearing a mask with blonde hair and has the same speed as Minato, can do the rasengan appeared and called himself Minato, you two would be the first to believe it.

Your calling insufficient facts truth. Hes Tobi until PROVEN otherwise lol.. EVen though i have my theory i still dont even call him Madara because hes NEVER been revealed as him.

@ the both of you :flaw: I suggest you guys read up on perception..
:flaw: I never said it was official theory did i no i didn't because i think madara could me one of the s6op​
 
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