This proves it, Sage got the rinnegan before Juubi's jin

[KingHashirama]

By proposing that the Rikudou had the Rinnegan without the Juubi's influence then you are raising more questions than answers: How did he acquire "God's eye"? when did he get it? when he was born? from what did he get it from? Occam's Razor applies: the simplest explanation is the correct one: that the source of the Rinnegan is the Juubi

As Kakashi said "Mutation". Mokuton is also a mutation...<<< In the manga the juubi hasn't even been connected to Hashirama. You and the others are the only ones claiming it.

So your telling me eveything should be answered in one page? Just for you? Ain't happening bro. If Rikudou defeated the Juubi without the rinnegan, there would be no reason for the Juubi to imagine the Sage with Rinnegan....

The staff Obito is holding is just a replica of Rikudou's staff: he was using his black chakra to shape that staff:

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Rikudou's staff is a real item.

Both are black.. lmao. The sage had the same ability as Obito, he could've done what Obito did also.... so argument is pretty irrelevent on that.

So I see you're continuing to use a "rewind-and-play" fallacy that contributes nothing to your own thread, resisting points to the contrary and still trying to hold on deeply to the hope that maybe your point is somewhat relevant to Naruto Lore.

It's simple mathematics and entropy, fräner.

Yes typical stubborn fans.....

Manga: Juubi is gathering chakra to reach the final form

Fans: Juubi needs the Kyuubi and Hachibi for the final form

Simply accept the manga.....

 

[The Necromancer]

Let me ask you this simple question; What did becoming the juubi's jinchuriki do for obito besides give him a speed boost?

 

[FreakensteinAG]

So your telling me eveything should be answered in one page?

That's what you're trying to do in your own thread, KingHashirama.

 

[Draphsin]

Let me ask you this simple question; What did becoming the juubi's jinchuriki do for obito besides give him a speed boost?

I guess you missed the last manga panel.

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Plus all the other times he used a combination of 4 or more nature releases.

Plus his pure strength which can break susanoo.

Oh and I almost forgot about his ability to levitate .

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Both are black.. lmao.

Look carefully, the staff is protruding from the chakra spike in Obito's hands:

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Rikudou's staff doesn't protrude from his hands, it's a real item:

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[The Necromancer]

I guess you missed the last manga panel.

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Plus all the other times he used a combination of 4 or more nature releases.

Exactly. Thank you. And might you know what else gives you every nature release?

 

[KingHashirama]

Look carefully, the staff is protruding from the chakra spike in Obito's hands:

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Rikudou's staff doesn't protrude from his hands, it's a real item:

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-sigh-. Yes Obito just made up the staff that has the 6 rings , after according to Hachibi that is the final form. Now lets get this clear, Flashbacks < Realty even in Naruto.

Senju and Uchiha treaty before actually told by someone who was there:

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Realty:

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1 shows them wearing their attire..

The other shows something different =]

 

[Retsu]

Not really.

Obito already had two doujutsu prior to becoming the Juubi's jin, and he's hosting an incomplete Juubi.

This here, we know the juubi is incomplete by looking at obitos horns, if he's lacking in something as simple as the horns from not getting a full dose of the 8 and 9 tails, then obviously he'd be missing the rinnegan

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

-sigh-. Yes Obito just made up the staff that has the 6 rings , after according to Hachibi that is the final form. Now lets get this clear, Flashbacks < Realty even in Naruto.

Hachibi said it wasn't the final form.

 

[KingHashirama]

Hachibi said it wasn't the final form.

Hachibi was talking about this being the form before the final form...:

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This here, we know the juubi is incomplete by looking at obitos horns, if he's lacking in something as simple as the horns from not getting a full dose of the 8 and 9 tails, then obviously he'd be missing the rinnegan

Its already been stated that the Juubi was gathering chakra to reach the final form without the need of Hachibi and Kyuubi......


Though i don't get why fans keep bringing it up.. As for the horns.. Rikudou had the markings on his cloak.. Obito has them on his body.. Would that not mean Rikudou was the imperfect one by your logic?

 

[Reaper]

I thought it had to be EMS to evolve into rinnegan,obito only has MS right?

 

[The Necromancer]

Hachibi said it wasn't the final form.

No, now that he's not assuming everyone has the time to sit and wait for the newest chapter, he's right. Obito may be in the final form. The hachibi stated obito's prior form was the one before final. Too bad he was too much of an idiot to actually post it rather than assuming everyone read a chapter that's been out for 5 minutes.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

It's still incomplete. It's missing a large portion of Kurama and Hachibi's chakras, and just look at his horns:

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Does that look like a complete transformation to you?

 

[KingHashirama]

It's still incomplete. It's missing a large portion of Kurama and Hachibi's chakras, and just look at his horns:

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Does that look like a complete transformation to you?

Argue with manga mate.

No, now that he's not assuming everyone has the time to sit and wait for the newest chapter, he's right. Obito may be in the final form. The hachibi stated obito's prior form was the one before final. Too bad he was too much of an idiot to actually post it rather than assuming everyone read a chapter that's been out for 5 minutes.

I did.. maybe you should've looked at the posts first ;] :

Though you call me selective.. but you can't comprehend what " the form before the final form" means...

Form before the final form:

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Final form:

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Stay butthurt though =D

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Argue with manga mate.

I'm not arguing with the Manga, I'm looking at it objectively.

 

[The Necromancer]

Argue with manga mate.

The final form can still be incomplete...

 

[ntel]

This doesnt confirm anything?..

Fail thread

 

[KingHashirama]

I'm not arguing with the Manga, I'm looking at it objectively.

Though you stated Hachibi did not say it was the final form.

The final form can still be incomplete...

Then it shouldn't have reached the final form, since it needed Kyuubi and Hachibi. *_*

This doesnt confirm anything?..

Fail thread

coming from the troll.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Then it shouldn't have reached the final form, since it needed Kyuubi and Hachibi. *_*

But you're the only one assuming that that is the complete and final form, the horns on Obito's head itself is indicative it isn't.

 

[Reaper]

I thought it had to be EMS to evolve into rinnegan,obito only has MS right?

anyone? :yeah: