This proves it, Sage got the rinnegan before Juubi's jin

[KingHashirama]

This proves it. We saw no changes in the rinnegan, nor Obito getting the other eye as the rinnegan.

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And hence strengthens why Juubi remembered Sage with the rinnegan. =].

Anyone who still wants to doubt now, is just clinging to a baseless assumption. =D

 

[ballerjordan]

Not really.

Obito already had two doujutsu prior to becoming the Juubi's jin, and he's hosting an incomplete Juubi.

 

[Transcendence]

No it doesn't.

 

[OWanime]

I agree when he feared naruto he saw the rinnegan so it's definitely the sage's own power xd

 

[Flawž]

Juubi is incomplete and not in the final state.

your argument is invalid.

 

[KingHashirama]

Not really.

Obito already had two doujutsu prior to becoming the Juubi's jin, and he's hosting an incomplete Juubi.

highly false. The kyuubi and Hachibi are not needed, already specifically stated. Juubi is juubi. and Now he is the COMPLETE jinchuriki, has the chakra of all the tailed beasts.

Though nice excuse.

Juubi is incomplete and not in the final state.

your argument is invalid.

Juubi doesn't requires the Kyuubi and Hachibi... stop it with this dumb reasoning.. this was already put down by Obito.


On top of that according to Hachibi this is the final form now. =] . Obito right now is in the final form.

 

[FreakensteinAG]

What happened to Obito's other eye is anyone's guess, but his other eye was Rinnegan before he gained Jinchurikiship. Remember that the Rinnegan is the accumulation of Senju and Uchiha DNA, which was developed during the Sage's jinchurikiship before splitting the Juubi into 9.

highly false. The kyuubi and Hachibi are not needed, already specifically stated. Juubi is juubi. and Now he is the COMPLETE jinchuriki, has the chakra of all the tailed beasts.

Obito did indeed obtain chakra for both Hachibi and Kyubi, though the chakra was minimal. Saying the kyuubi and hachibi are not needed then saying he has the chakra of all tailed beasts is a highly illogical judgment.

 

[Joon]

Incomplete Obito Sage? I do not know.

 

[KingHashirama]

What happened to Obito's other eye is anyone's guess, but his other eye was Rinnegan before he gained Jinchurikiship. Remember that the Rinnegan is the accumulation of Senju and Uchiha DNA, which was developed during the Sage's jinchurikiship before splitting the Juubi into 9.

highly false, Senju and Uchiha are bloodlines, not traits inherited from a tailed beast =]. Your using a theory to counter this.. which is a fail.

Incomplete Obito Sage? I do not know.

According to 8-tails this is incomplete:

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[ballerjordan]

highly false. The kyuubi and Hachibi are not needed, already specifically stated. Juubi is juubi. and Now he is the COMPLETE jinchuriki, has the chakra of all the tailed beasts.

Though nice excuse.



Juubi doesn't requires the Kyuubi and Hachibi... stop it with this dumb reasoning.. this was already put down by Obito.


On top of that according to Hachibi this is the final form now. =] . Obito right now is in the final form.

Nope.

Hachibi stated that it hasn't reached it's final form, it's power simply became more focused.

 

[accept pain]

We can't still say something.

 

[Wolfus]

Although the juubi was in it's the second form(meaning, it hasn't fully replenished all of kyuubi's and hachibi's chakra.), I agree with you. His body went through a complete change, and now, he has the control. Still, something should've at least started to happen with his sharingan.
All we can do for now is wait. I also think that the rikudou had the rinnegan before sealing the juubi.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Doesn't the fact that Madara awakened Rinnegan prove the Sage didn't get it from Juubi?

 

[Ventalus]

Sounds somehow legit, but still not legit for me.

First out then it would mean that Rikudou Sennin is neither an Senju or an Uzumaki, he must be a combination of Uchicha and Senju, because both of them are needed to make Rinnegan, still Uchicha got the Sharingan and by looking on Juubi we can directly say that Juubi is the true creator of Sharigan, the one who carries the true DNA behind it.

So I can't really accept this so far, I rather see more into it, since as well Obito doesn't have an complete Juubi.

That's my beliefs so far.

We did learn that Jinchuurikis do share DNA with the bijuu. By looking at Naruto with his superhealing, by looking on Bee with the Ink abilities, and 4-tails with the lava style.

Since Juubi is all these bijuus in one then it would mean that you share a Godlike DNA with would probably as well be the ultimate eye(s) DNA as well.

 

[Draphsin]

No it doesnt, the juubi is still incomplete, hence the different horn sizes.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

It's an incomplete sealing, a large portion of Kurama and Hachibi's chakra are missing

 

[Flawž]

highly false. The kyuubi and Hachibi are not needed, already specifically stated. Juubi is juubi. and Now he is the COMPLETE jinchuriki, has the chakra of all the tailed beasts.

Though nice excuse.



Juubi doesn't requires the Kyuubi and Hachibi... stop it with this dumb reasoning.. this was already put down by Obito.


On top of that according to Hachibi this is the final form now. =] . Obito right now is in the final form.

Obito stated that he doesn't need the full kyuubi and hachibi's chakra to cast Mugen tsukyuomi.

It still not full powered and the sage Had control of the full powered Juubi in it's final state.

so as soon as we see obito Absorb the kyuubi and hachibi, we cannot jump to conclusions.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Doesn't the fact that Madara awakened Rinnegan prove the Sage didn't get it from Juubi?

The Uchiha and Senju Ancestors are the Yin and Yang of the Jūbi

 

[KingHashirama]

Nope.

Hachibi stated that it hasn't reached it's final form, it's power simply became more focused.

Time to reread, Hachibi stated the form Obito first took as the jinchuriki was the form before the final form:

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Although the juubi was in it's the second form(meaning, it hasn't fully replenished all of kyuubi's and hachibi's chakra.), I agree with you. His body went through a complete change, and now, he has the control. Still, something should've at least started to happen with his sharingan.
All we can do for now is wait. I also think that the rikudou had the rinnegan before sealing the juubi.

Nah, this is the final form mate. There is no need for this "complete Juubi"....

Doesn't the fact that Madara has Rinnegan prove the Sage didn't get it from Juubi?

it should, but not to others who are clinging on to baseless assumptions

Obito stated that he doesn't need the full kyuubi and hachibi's chakra to cast Mugen tsukyuomi.

It still not full powered and the sage Had control of the full powered Juubi in it's final state.

so as soon as we see obito Absorb the kyuubi and hachibi, we cannot jump to conclusions.

HE DOESN'T NEED THEM

Though your still countering facts with theories that has no basis... 8-tails ALREADY CONFIRMED THIS IS THE FINAL FORM.......

 

[FreakensteinAG]

highly false, Senju and Uchiha are bloodlines, not traits inherited from a tailed beast =]. Your using a theory to counter this.. which is a fail.

Also remember that the Japanese translation for Rinnegan is "the eye of suffering", which is clear of the methods of which the rinnegan was obtained. Were the rinnegan obtained either way, through being born with it or learning it, the name of the dojutsu and the translation of it would be completely different.