This proves it, Sage got the rinnegan before Juubi's jin

[MrLukyso]

Your still as stupid as ever.

1. Juubi is not complete.
2. Obito had 2 Dojutsus before taking control of the Juubi.
3. Juubi is not in it's final state.

Let me do you a guide on how to get the Rinnegan.

1. Become Juubis Jin.
(Sage)
2. Go through the process of Sharingan-MS-EMS-EMS+Senju DNA = Rinnegan.
(Madara)

Yes your thread proves jackshit, but it still possible that Sage had Rinnegan before Juubi because going by logic he's both Senju and Uchiha combined.. but yet we don't know anything. And stop making useless threads.

 

[cptenn94]

you know you have a point op.

There really has been no evidence to show that the rinnegan came from the juubi. That has actually just been pure speculation. But there also hasnt been any proof showing it DIDNT come from the juubi.

This is a imperfect juubi btw, not the same juubi the sage fought. Also obito already has the rinnegan. But lastly you are makeing an assumption based on a manga page that doesnt show much. For all we know the juubi may still need to go to the final form(as it may not be yet) to unlock rinnegan in the user.

Though i personally dont have a side i take on how sage got the rinnegan, your logic to "prove" sage had the rinnegan before, is severly flawed and is lacking almost any support.

 

[KingHashirama]

Your still as stupid as ever.

1. Juubi is not complete.
2. Obito had 2 Dojutsus before taking control of the Juubi.
3. Juubi is not in it's final state.

Let me do you a guide on how to get the Rinnegan.

1. Become Juubis Jin.
(Sage)
2. Go through the process of Sharingan-MS-EMS-EMS+Senju DNA = Rinnegan.
(Madara)

Yes your thread proves jackshit, but it still possible that Sage had Rinnegan before Juubi because going by logic he's both Senju and Uchiha combined.. but yet we don't know anything. And stop making useless threads.

Fanboy stay mad at your dumbness 8-tails >>> your theory

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[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Also remember that the Japanese translation for Rinnegan is "the eye of suffering", which is clear of the methods of which the rinnegan was obtained. Were the rinnegan obtained either way, through being born with it or learning it, the name of the dojutsu and the translation of it would be completely different.

Yes, if Rikūdo always had the Rinnegan it would be called the Bosatugan aka the Eye of the Sage, if he acquired it through meditation or enlightenment then it would be called the Satorigan aka the Eye of Enlightenment

 

[rollin]

i agree
to use the infinite tsukuyomi obito said he will use the juubi's power to boost his eyes to the ultimate level

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and reflect them off the moon;and it shows the juubi's eye

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madara planned on doing this as well with rinnegan and obito already has rinnegan in one eye
this is the next step after rinnegan
rinnegan (Yin/yang)+juubi (nature energy)=the sage of the six path

 

[The Necromancer]

Fanboy stay mad at your dumbness 8-tails >>> your theory

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"Hattsan... is that the final form?"

"No"

I don't see how you could possibly misread that.

 

[Stark]

Juubi is still incomplete..

 

[Transcendence]

"Hattsan... is that the final form?"

"No"

I don't see how you could possibly misread that.

KingHashirama selectively reads everything to prove a point that he can't actually prove.

 

[MrLukyso]

KingHashirama selectively reads everything to prove a point that he can't actually prove.

What did you expect ? KingHashirama is nothing more then a fanboy. I still don't get it how he has that Green rep bar..

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

The Rinnegan is the Eye of Samsara aka the Eye of Suffering, and Rikudou suffered to contain the complete and full powered Juubi inside himself thus he awakened the Rinnegan.

The Wheel of Samsara:

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[KingHashirama]

"Hattsan... is that the final form?"

"No"

I don't see how you could possibly misread that.

clearly picking out quotes is your proffession. I would encourage you to read furthermore.

" Looks like it was used by the jinchuriki before reaching its final form" ;]. Period.

The staff already proofs Obito is now the PErfect jinchuriki for the Juubi. He is the same as RIkudou sennin. Kyuubi and Hachibi are not needed anymore.

The Rinnegan is the Eye of Samsara aka the Eye of Suffering, and Rikudou suffered to contain the complete and full powered Juubi inside himself thus he awakened the Rinnegan.

The Wheel of Samsara:

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Just because its influenced from something doesn't mean its the same way. Otherwise Kishimoto would give away the whole story O_x. Hashirama's sage mode represents the Sun god. Do we see him controlling the sun? no.

 

[Transcendence]

What did you expect ? KingHashirama is nothing more then a fanboy. I still don't get it how he has that Green rep bar..

I didn't expect anything to be honest Lol.

 

[KingHashirama]

I didn't expect anything to be honest Lol.

Though you call me selective.. but you can't comprehend what " the form before the final form" means...

Form before the final form:

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Final form:

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Stay butthurt though =D

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

How can you even argue that's a complete Juubi if a large portion of Hachibi and Kurama's chakra aren't even in there? even the Yin Chakra of Kurama is still inside Minato.

 

[Transcendence]

Looks like it was used by the jinchuriki before reaching its final form

Are you retarded? Read that sentence again without twisting it to your own opinion.

 

[FreakensteinAG]

The staff already proofs Obito is now the PErfect jinchuriki for the Juubi. He is the same as RIkudou sennin. Kyuubi and Hachibi are not needed anymore.

Appearance does not mask the fact that only an insignificant portion of Kyubi and Hachibi chakra contributed to the revival of the Juubi. In fact, appearance does point out that his body is still segmented and chipped, and his second horn is dwarfed. But unlike some people, I do not make conclusions based on looks alone, nor do I make conclusions and attempt to find "evidence" to "support" said conclusion (the exact reverse of scientific inquiry).

 

[KingHashirama]

How can you even argue that's a complete Juubi if a large portion of Hachibi and Kurama's chakra aren't even in there? even the Yin Chakra of Kurama is still inside Minato.

Hachibi and Kurama do not matter.. Obito is the Sage of 6 Paths... he wouldn't have gotten the staff that represents the 6 paths, if it wasn't complete. He is now in his complete form. The Juubi can sustain itself without those 2.. meaning they are not needed period. Don't know why you guys keep bringing it in to keep Rikudou as the almighty god...

Are you retarded? Read that sentence again without twisting it to your own opinion.

Yea.. and now Obito is the Sage of 6 PATHS..... aka the final form...

Appearance does not mask the fact that only an insignificant portion of Kyubi and Hachibi chakra contributed to the revival of the Juubi. In fact, appearance does point out that his body is still segmented and chipped, and his second horn is dwarfed. But unlike some people, I do not make conclusions based on looks alone, nor do I make conclusions and find evidence to support a conclusion (the exact reverse of scientific inquiry).

The fact is also this: Hachibi and Kyuubi were not needed for the Juubi. The Juubi was gathering chakra without them to reach the final form... hell do you even understand what that means?

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

By proposing that the Rikudou had the Rinnegan without the Juubi's influence then you are raising more questions than answers: How did he acquire "God's eye"? when did he get it? when he was born? from what did he get it from? Occam's Razor applies: the simplest explanation is the correct one: that the source of the Rinnegan is the Juubi

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

The staff Obito is holding is just a replica of Rikudou's staff: he was using his black chakra to shape that staff:

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Rikudou's staff is a real item.

 

[FreakensteinAG]

The fact is also this: Hachibi and Kyuubi were not needed for the Juubi. The Juubi was gathering chakra without them to reach the final form... hell do you even understand what that means?

So I see you're continuing to use a "rewind-and-play" fallacy that contributes nothing to your own thread, resisting points to the contrary and still trying to hold on deeply to the hope that maybe your point is somewhat relevant to Naruto Lore.

It's simple mathematics and entropy, fräner.