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Because religon is the only way of "control", rather it be the government or some other bs that they have on the people, because religon is a major tradition, and nobody can even prove that there is any kind of god or superior divine entity of any sort. People who arent involved in a religon know the real face of the world because they dont need to have fears, a church is a place to escape to, to hide fears. Having no fear is how somebody unlocks their potential as their own individual, religon allows a thought to come in mind that there's a place to go to in time of some sort of despair.
If you really mean that, your idea of religion is very sick, twisted and wrong.

There is no need to prove the existence of god for the purpose of Religion. Even though people, wrongly, try to explain everything with religion, Religion isn't a scientific subject. A religion is just something you use to live your live the best way you can. Some people need God to be good, others need Gaia to feel harmonious, others, like me, don't really need any of those things, but that doesn't mean that this is our religion. Religion only serves for you to think of your live and give a meaning to it. Religion can't explain why the earth was created. Religion can't even explain why flowers blossom (Don't try to say it can, because you'd only be fallin on the mistake I've warned you in the beginning of this paragraph), but Religion can give you a path, and a meaning.

Your next part of the argument is now very confusing. What do you mean people without fear progress better. That's just wrong. And what are you trying to say with "fear"? What's the meaning of fear to you? How can you apply it in this subject?
 

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Hod do you know that? Do you have experience with inteligent people? Have you ever studied their behaviour? In which facts do you base your statement? Or is it just a mere and weak induction?

Yes, yes. All of those.

Thank you!
:rolleyes: answering by question on question.... everything u do here is trying to put some one down, probably couse ur low life nerd.. gl, and your welcome
 

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:rolleyes: answering by question on question.... everything u do here is trying to put some one down, probably couse ur low life nerd.. gl, and your welcome
Yes, because calling someone a low life nerd isn't trying to put someone down... But who am I to say that? I'm just a low life nerd...
 

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First of all, thank you. Apart from pesh, you're the first person that actually shows inteligence. (Even though your arguments are horribly wrong!! Muahahaha!)

Just, kidding. It is true that we aren't all psychopaths, and yes, people do have motives to get into fight, and yes it is about their believes, but, and this goes with my previous discussion with Pesh, is it right to call Religion to that? I mean, first we must estabilish the concept of religion, even if it is very vague. Because people can't continue blaming their own actions on religion, when in truth, what they are doing doesn't fit any religion at all.

As I said, they don't find those things writen in their Religious Books. There wasn't a line at the Bible that stated: You shall Kill as many Protestants as you can. Nor there was a quote from Quor'an that stated that you have to put yourself on a plane and collide with the Twin Towers. The Books are left to the interpretation of those who read it, but using those interpretations (And on these cases, mishieved) to manipulate others into believing that's their religion is just wrong, in the sense that no, that's not religion.
True, but what i was saying is that people fight because of religion, or at least, as you said, they use religion as an excuse to fight and not science like you were saying previously if im not mistaken

:rolleyes: answering by question on question.... everything u do here is trying to put some one down, probably couse ur low life nerd.. gl, and your welcome
actually, he is explaining what he thinks to you with fair arguments. You, otherwise don't have any counter arguments and write this crap -.-
 
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god bless all of u

i am acutally thanking you all because a chapter of my book is actually called
Atheisim vs Religon with a subtitle Gods existence

ima also gunna steal a lil from here but hey its the real worlde dont worry its going to a good cause
i would say its plagarisim but its really not :p : D
 

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Good story, but the questions asked by the student are flawed in logic. While an almost brilliant argument, it remains that everything the student argued was an alternate term for description of observance, or something that can be observed in a manner.

Still if a person wants to argue the existence of god, then one must forget all about religion and look to possible credible scientific reasons to support the existence of god in theory.
 
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