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RSM is higher form of BSM?? Don't make me laugh..
It's definitely not that simple
If it were that simple, one can also say the Rinnegan is just a higher form of EMS
When Naruto saved Gai he was in RSM and clearly wasn't using any Bijuu chakra
RSM is independent of the bijuu and it's mechanics are different from Toad SM
RSM is a result of mixing chakra of 9 bijuu with NE, it's literally BSM but with chakra from 9 bijuu instead of one.

1. Naruto's body was already used to bijuu chakra

2. Naruto's body was already used to NE

3. Naruto's body was already used to mixing bijuu chakra with NE

He had the experience and the physical energy to use his new power with no training.


Naruto's body was prepared for RSM. Okay
But Sasuke's eyes weren't prepared for the Rinnegan
Sasuke has used ocular powers for as long if not longer than Naruto has used bodily powers
Rinnegan is a completely new dojutsu from Sharingan, you need the stamina and the knowledge of its jutsu to use it to its full potential whereas RSM only requires being used to bijuu chakra and NE.

1. Sasuke's body was still adapting to the Rinnegan, hence why he had to keep his eye closed most of the time

2. Sasuke only started to learn how to use Hagoromo's eye techniques by VoTE 2, in contrast Naruto already knew how to fly, use TSB and bijuu KKG instinctively
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Comprehension of all things.. Funny you bring that up
Naruto has comprehension of all things yet he didn't know he could fly, didn't know how to use TSB properly, didn't understand how Kaguya's dimensions worked.
So that's a none factor. Unless it's categorically stated that he's using, he's not
Wrong, he didn't know he could fly yet was able to do so willfully, reason he didn't do it before Kaguya fight is because he was never given a reason to do so, Madara's clones were on the ground and meteorites were an easy target. On top of that he used TSB with no difficulty to the point he could combine them with his RS.

So once again, Naruto was exhausted and inexperienced
Sasuke was inexperienced

They were not equally disadvantaged, Naruto was more disadvantaged
Naruto was never exhausted to begin with, Kurama kept replenishing his energy, he was running out of bijuu chakra which is different.


Conclusion : Naruto was low on bijuu chakra powering his RSM while Sasuke lacked the experience to use Rinnegan's full power, they were both EQUALLY nerfed.
 

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Hashirama doesn't have RSM. Having Hashi's chakra helps him gain hagormoo's chakra but not his senjutsu.
Hashirama cells give Sasuke ability to use Ashura's power therefore Sasuke meets the requirements to control RSM chakra.

Sasuke should be able to use Preta to absorb RSM Naruto's chakra the same way Madara did from Hashirama because RSM is still an Ashura power-up in the end of the day.
 

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Hashirama cells give Sasuke ability to use Ashura's power therefore Sasuke meets the requirements to control RSM chakra.

Sasuke should be able to use Preta to absorb RSM Naruto's chakra the same way Madara did from Hashirama because RSM is still an Ashura power-up in the end of the day.
Hashirama can't use Ashura's senjutsu powers. That's the whole point, so he doesn't meet the requirements at all. That's why naruto gained rsm and hashirama didn't.
 

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Hashirama can't use Ashura's senjutsu powers. That's the whole point, so he doesn't meet the requirements at all. That's why naruto gained rsm and hashirama didn't.
Hashirama couldn't use it because he lacked the chakra of 9 bijuu, difference between him and Naruto is that RSM Naruto's chakra contains the chakra of all bijuu therefore absorbing it should give Sasuke Six Path Senjutsu
 

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Hashirama couldn't use it because he lacked the chakra of 9 bijuu, difference between him and Naruto is that RSM Naruto's chakra contains the chakra of all bijuu therefore absorbing it should give Sasuke Six Path Senjutsu
Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo), Sage Justu / Ninjutsu used by Naruto. Most of this page is too blurry to read, so I can only translate some of it.

The big header basically says it's a gift from the ancestor of shinobi that grants a supernatural mental state allowing for the complete, universal comprehension of all things.

From what I can make out of the main body of text, it says that this is a technique that allows the user to quickly grasp the nature of chakra with the skill of a well-studied, highly sensitive master. It also seems to have a bunch of philosphical stuff about the Sage of Six Paths which is hard to make out because I can only read about half of it.

Top caption says that the caster has an unconcious/automatic mastery of the Sage of Six Path's "ability to levitate" (浮遊する能力, fuyū suru nōryoku).

Second caption says, "Kicking a Truthseeker Orb! Surpassing Kurama Mode, his vast chakra lets him perform this risky stunt!"

Third caption says, "His reaction speed meets or exceeds that of Madara in his Ten Tails Jinchuriki Form. It's the height of sensory ability!"
I think he's better off gaining naruto's tissue because the bijuus have to befriend you before hagormoo allows you to use rsm.
 

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It's sad that Sasuke fans don't even accept Sasuke's words smh.
It's sad to see that Naruto fans unable to understand that his words were not literal.

When a sports team needs crucial point to challenge for the title and they draw 1-1 they consider it a loss of points, that's because they aim to win and nothing less, it doesn't mean they literally lost the game.

Same logic applies to Sasuke, he gave up on his ambition hence why he said "I lost", he was never referring to the actual fight like so many of you guys desperately try to make it seem.
 

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It's sad to see that Naruto fans unable to understand that his words were not literal.

When a sports team needs crucial point to challenge for the title and they draw 1-1 they consider it a loss of points, that's because they aim to win and nothing less, it doesn't mean they literally lost the game.

Same logic applies to Sasuke, he gave up on his ambition hence why he said "I lost", he was never referring to the actual fight like so many of you guys desperately try to make it seem.
He lost ideally but at the same time he implied he couldn't fight any longer after hearing Naruto being ready to continue even if he dies. A surrender is a loss.
 

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He lost ideally but at the same time he implied he couldn't fight any longer after hearing Naruto being ready to continue even if he dies. A surrender is a loss.
Naruto couldn't fight either because Sasuke took the remaining chakra for him. In other words, they drew.
 

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I see Sasuke faps still use "it was battle of ideals" excuse just not to admit that he lost.
He lost, cried like a b@@ch after realising that he was too weak to kill Naruto.
 

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It's sad to see that Naruto fans unable to understand that his words were not literal.

When a sports team needs crucial point to challenge for the title and they draw 1-1 they consider it a loss of points, that's because they aim to win and nothing less, it doesn't mean they literally lost the game.

Same logic applies to Sasuke, he gave up on his ambition hence why he said "I lost", he was never referring to the actual fight like so many of you guys desperately try to make it seem.
You do realize he failed to do everything he stated. Meaning he lost.

The Hero dying or the situation having a great cost to stop a calamity isn't them losing or resulting in a tie. It's a win for the Hero and a loss for the one who plans failed.

You'd have to be retarded to think Sasuke won.
 
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You do realize he failed to do everything he stated. Meaning he lost.

The Hero dying or the situation having a great cost to stop a calamity isn't them losing or resulting in a tie. It's a win for the Hero and a loss for the one who plans failed.

You'd have to be retarded to think Sasuke won.
Almost all the Sasuke fans are.
 

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You do realize he failed to do everything he stated. Meaning he lost.

The Hero dying or the situation having a great cost to stop a calamity isn't them losing or resulting in a tie. It's a win for the Hero and a loss for the one who plans failed.

You'd have to be retarded to think Sasuke won.
You do realize that he lost the battle of wills but not the actual fight ? You'd have to be retarded to think the fight itself was a win for Naruto instead of a draw

How can you claim Naruto won when he passed out the same time as Sasuke and woke up in the same physical condition as Sasuke ? The fight was literally a draw but because Sasuke wasn't able to kill Naruto he considered it a loss.
 

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RSM is a result of mixing chakra of 9 bijuu with NE, it's literally BSM but with chakra from 9 bijuu instead of one.

1. Naruto's body was already used to bijuu chakra

2. Naruto's body was already used to NE

3. Naruto's body was already used to mixing bijuu chakra with NE

He had the experience and the physical energy to use his new power with no training.




Rinnegan is a completely new dojutsu from Sharingan, you need the stamina and the knowledge of its jutsu to use it to its full potential whereas RSM only requires being used to bijuu chakra and NE.

1. Sasuke's body was still adapting to the Rinnegan, hence why he had to keep his eye closed most of the time

2. Sasuke only started to learn how to use Hagoromo's eye techniques by VoTE 2, in contrast Naruto already knew how to fly, use TSB and bijuu KKG instinctively
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Wrong, he didn't know he could fly yet was able to do so willfully, reason he didn't do it before Kaguya fight is because he was never given a reason to do so, Madara's clones were on the ground and meteorites were an easy target. On top of that he used TSB with no difficulty to the point he could combine them with his RS.



Naruto was never exhausted to begin with, Kurama kept replenishing his energy, he was running out of bijuu chakra which is different.


Conclusion : Naruto was low on bijuu chakra powering his RSM while Sasuke lacked the experience to use Rinnegan's full power, they were both EQUALLY nerfed.


No it's not!!!!!!!!
RSM has nothing to do with the bijuu
RSM can be combined with the bijuu, that doesn't mean it's gotten from the bijuu
If I can take Rice with Stew doesn't mean I need stew to make rice.
When Naruto revived Guy he was RSM without bijuu chakra.. how is this difficult to understand??
RSM is just a different from of SM, albeit a higher and more complicated one

Naruto's body was used to NE, he wasn't used to RSM
Sasuke's eyes were used to Doujutsu, he wasn't used to Rinnegan
Don't kid yourself, the powers were new to them both and so they were both inexperienced

Sasuke equally had the experience and spiritual energy to use his new powers without training


If the Rinnegan is different from the Sharingan, then RSM is different from SM
It's just funny that you think the two are the same. Do you think Snake Sage Mode and Toad Sage Mode work the same way?? The both use NE but are completely different
It's the same with RSM. It's never close to SM


He didn't need to fly?? Are you kidding me??
Flight speed is faster. If he knew about flying he could have flown and caught up with Madara before he took Kakashi's eye..
His universal comprehension gave him to understanding of Kaguya's dimensions. You're going to say he didn't need to know that??

Naruto wasn't never exhausted?? What??
The same Naruto who had been fighting for days?
Kurama's chakra is not infinite.

Naruto was exhausted. Naruto was inexperienced with RSM
Sasuke was inexperienced with Rinnegan

Naruto had twice the disadvantage Sasuke had!
 
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Naruto mastered control of NE since Pain arc and has been possessing bijuu chakra since part 1, Sasuke only had his Rinnegan for a day :coffee:
mastering control of NE is not = to able to use all rsm tech

if naruto was mastered rsm then why he didn't able used all of them so he was nerf

if u say he was mastered rsm then u have to agree that he was nerf/ it was Inconsistency
 

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Dumb Naruto clowns think Naruto was the only one exhausted.
the exhausted excuse doesnt even make any sense since what was stated was that his base chakra was low. too bad he fought sasuke with kuramas chakra/avatar and NE so that is completely irrelevant. the only time his chakra being low would have mattered was towards the end when they clashed in base form but at that point sasuke too was low so it evens out. "naruto had twice disadvantage as sasuke" Rubbish from that fandom as usual
 

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:lol Some people still not tired of this "Naruto with killing intent" BS? It's like his fans don't even know their favorite character. Naruto's never had killing intent, or at least not since he hugged away his evil side back at the turtle island. To all the villains afterwards he showed no feelings of strong contempt, let alone actual crave for murder, does that mean he has never gone all out in his life? Lmao.

"Naruto with killing intent" canonically doesn't exist, it's just something his fanboys made up to make him look stronger. In reality Naruto was trying his hardest in VoTE 1 while in VoTE 2 he started doing so after BPS came out.
 

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Naruto was trying hard not to kill Sasuke. Its already there in the manga. Sasuke himself observed that. Its just dumbass Sausage faps who claim to be Sasuke fans but deny everything their fav says lol. The salt is strong with SB....:lmao:
 
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