SenseiSama
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Nope, he already has Hashi cells and Ashura's Yang as a Rinnegan user. All he needs to do is use Preta and absorb his RSM chakra
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Mastering normal sage mode and mastering RSM are two different things. Naruto gained RSM at the same time Sasuke gained his Rinnegan and Naruto too didn't know the full extent of the powers RSM granted him. For example he didn't know he could fly in RSM before realising it in the lava dimension. Both were new to their powers and hadn't mastered them.Naruto mastered control of NE since Pain arc and has been possessing bijuu chakra since part 1, Sasuke only had his Rinnegan for a day
I don't think that'll work. Sasuke had the rinnegan and knew of preta path. If what you say is true then why didn't he try it?
SenseiSama
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Two different things but if Sasuke can control the chakra mass of 9 bijuu with no problem then he should have no problem controlling RSM chakra.
P.S : I never meant he can use RSM on Naruto's level, that's just fanfic :lol
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@Bold: That's what I am asking why didn't he then?
Even if he's able to extract RSM Naruto's chakra which I highly doubt, I don't think he'd be able to gain RSM.
Yata Mirror
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Lol at people saying Sasuke was inexperienced
Naruto and Sasuke both got their Rikudou powerups at the same time
Naruto was used to NE and SM you say?? Well Sasuke has been using Doujutsu since early Part 1
So if you think mastering normal SM is equivalent to RSM
then Sharingan, MS and EMS are also equivalent to Rinnegan
Truth is they were both experienced with their newly found powers
so Sasuke being unable to kill Naruto who wasn't even trying to kill him is a huge loss no matter how you sugarcoat it
Naruto and Sasuke both got their Rikudou powerups at the same time
Naruto was used to NE and SM you say?? Well Sasuke has been using Doujutsu since early Part 1
So if you think mastering normal SM is equivalent to RSM
then Sharingan, MS and EMS are also equivalent to Rinnegan
Truth is they were both experienced with their newly found powers
so Sasuke being unable to kill Naruto who wasn't even trying to kill him is a huge loss no matter how you sugarcoat it
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RSM is just a higher level of BSM, in the end of the day it requires the body being used to bijuu chakra and NE which Naruto's body has been used to since way before his Rikudou power up.
In addition, Sasuke doesn't have understanding of all things which means he needs time to learn how to use his dojutsu, it's why he couldn't even figure out how to leave Kaguya's dimension when he was trapped.
Naruto was running out of chakra while Sasuke was inexperienced, they were both equally disadvantaged. No point giving excuses of who was most nerfed.
Naruto held back in both fights.
In Vote 1, Naruto made his point and proved Sasuke wrong by scratching his forehead protector. Had he aimed for a different location then both would be laying unconscious. But plot needed to intervene so Sasuke could go to Oro.
In Vote 2, Naruto was only fighting to match. Not to win nor lose, just to bring Sasuke to his senses. Still came out with the W in the end.
Makes me wonder how hax unrestricted Naruto is.
In Vote 1, Naruto made his point and proved Sasuke wrong by scratching his forehead protector. Had he aimed for a different location then both would be laying unconscious. But plot needed to intervene so Sasuke could go to Oro.
In Vote 2, Naruto was only fighting to match. Not to win nor lose, just to bring Sasuke to his senses. Still came out with the W in the end.
Makes me wonder how hax unrestricted Naruto is.
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He already had the 7 out of 9 tailed beast chakra in him and he still didn't have RSM. Only after gaining Hagoromo's chakra Naruto gained the RSM.
So why wasn't Naruto aware that he could fly.
Naruto was at a greater disadvantage because not only was he new to his powers but also he was exhausted from fighting Kaguya almost single handedly plus he wasn't trying to kill Sasuke.
And answer the question from my previous post. Its always the same, you make tall claims as if they're fact and when you're asked for proof you simply fizzle out lol.
Yata Mirror
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RSM is higher form of BSM?? Don't make me laugh..
It's definitely not that simple
If it were that simple, one can also say the Rinnegan is just a higher form of EMS
When Naruto saved Gai he was in RSM and clearly wasn't using any Bijuu chakra
RSM is independent of the bijuu and it's mechanics are different from Toad SM
Naruto's body was prepared for RSM. Okay
But Sasuke's eyes weren't prepared for the Rinnegan
Sasuke has used ocular powers for as long if not longer than Naruto has used bodily powers
Comprehension of all things.. Funny you bring that up
Naruto has comprehension of all things yet he didn't know he could fly, didn't know how to use TSB properly, didn't understand how Kaguya's dimensions worked.
So that's a none factor. Unless it's categorically stated that he's using, he's not
So once again, Naruto was exhausted and inexperienced
Sasuke was inexperienced
They were not equally disadvantaged, Naruto was more disadvantaged
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But Naruto never mopped the floor with Sasuke in VOTE 1. It was back and forth with Sasuke's advantage.
VOTE 2 was a stalemate all around neither was stronger than the other.
:lol at people saying Naruto held back because of no killing intent. Naruto always go all out without killing intent he even did it vs JJ Obito.
VOTE 2 was a stalemate all around neither was stronger than the other.
:lol at people saying Naruto held back because of no killing intent. Naruto always go all out without killing intent he even did it vs JJ Obito.
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Naruto got his butt kicked in the first fight. His only chance of catching up to a two-tomoed Sasuke was by using the power of the Nine-Tails. Sasuke had already deactivated his Curse-Mark by the time that the real fight began and once he awakened his third tomoe, Naruto's little comeback was squashed like a nuisance.
The second fight was a simple draw. Just because someones says that they lost, doesn't mean that they did. Naruto fans keep saying things like this, as if Sasuke's word is gospel only when it serves their own purpose, but every other time they ignore what he has to say. Just because Naruto scratched Sasuke's headband, doesn't mean he completed the task of bringing Sasuke back. Face the facts, if Naruto didn't have the Nine-Tails, the Valley of the End fight would have been a joke, even without Sasuke's curse-mark. The same with the second fight.
The second fight was a simple draw. Just because someones says that they lost, doesn't mean that they did. Naruto fans keep saying things like this, as if Sasuke's word is gospel only when it serves their own purpose, but every other time they ignore what he has to say. Just because Naruto scratched Sasuke's headband, doesn't mean he completed the task of bringing Sasuke back. Face the facts, if Naruto didn't have the Nine-Tails, the Valley of the End fight would have been a joke, even without Sasuke's curse-mark. The same with the second fight.
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Just because he said he lost didn't mean he lost. The fight was a draw. His entire plan may have gotten ****ed over harder than Sakura's development. But by no means is that a loss. Because they tied. All Naruto did was keep Sasuke from ruling the world, killing the kages, and killing him.
That Shit doesn't matter because Sasuke simply did not lose anything in that fight. He didn't even lose his arm because Naruto doesn't have an arm either so they tied.
Sasuke didn't lose Vote 2. He was nerfed anyway he had rinnegan for like a day, geez. Sasuke needed his sword too and the bijuu doesn't matter because he was too inexperienced to use it but Naruto got powers that he was used to. He got RSM which is basically like BSM in which his eyes change that means I can use the word basically and literally say they're the same.
Naruto fans are so dumb.
Sasuke fans are obviously smarter.
That Shit doesn't matter because Sasuke simply did not lose anything in that fight. He didn't even lose his arm because Naruto doesn't have an arm either so they tied.
Sasuke didn't lose Vote 2. He was nerfed anyway he had rinnegan for like a day, geez. Sasuke needed his sword too and the bijuu doesn't matter because he was too inexperienced to use it but Naruto got powers that he was used to. He got RSM which is basically like BSM in which his eyes change that means I can use the word basically and literally say they're the same.
Naruto fans are so dumb.
Sasuke fans are obviously smarter.
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To Whatever
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Careful. Sasuke fans will argue that Sasuke tried harder. Then that he didn't try harder. Then contemplate which position makes Sasuke better
gerizzyYMcrew
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@ bold why do you have to type this?...no ifs ands or buts...kurama is apart of naruto's character so accept it...we both know naruto only scratched sasuke's headband because of plot.
also going by your logic sasuke FAILED at VoTE 2 since he couldn't complete his world domination...lolololololol
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whiteboy2345
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Because Naruto was born with Kurama right? Just because it's a part of Naruto's character doesn't mean Naruto is stronger than other character's without it. You just won't admit that Naruto would probably lose to a plethora of people in the series without the power of Tailed Beasts to help him.