The Martyr of Konoha: The Itachi Uchiha FC

[Tennis Robot]

The thing is...with some, i realised we didn't have the same goal. I don't know :/ it's rather complex sometimes

...Are you sure? The quote in my status covers most of what I believe that goal to be. Have you really met people to whom that doesn't apply? That would hurt

 

[Edenia]

...Are you sure? The quote in my status covers most of what I believe that goal to be. Have you really met people to whom that doesn't apply? That would hurt

To be honest with you, i dont think it applies to everyone :/ i want to believe it does.

 

[Tennis Robot]

To be honest with you, i dont think it applies to everyone :/ i want to believe it does.

That just...I don't know. The thought of someone like that existing...

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...really hurts me

 

[Edenia]

That just...I don't know. The thought of someone like that existing...

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...really hurts me

Well it hurts me too. Maybe they have that goal just in a different way i do

 

[KayaUzumaki]

Whoa, I see some deep conversation going on here. Itachi certainly does inspire some thought-provoking conversations. That in and of itself is a feat for a fictional character.

Anyway...I just had a chance to drop in and post a few things.

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[Tennis Robot]

Whoa, I see some deep conversation going on here. Itachi certainly does inspire some thought-provoking conversations. That in and of itself is a feat for a fictional character.

Anyway...I just had a chance to drop in and post a few things.

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These are all amazing!!!! Thank you

 

[Chie]

The symbolism though.

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I hope people really think about his words and try to apply them to their lives rather than just praising Itachi or you. Because that's what matters in the end...

That's my hope as well and the entire point behind the thread- behind all my threads involving him. I don't want people to just think "Oh, nice job". I want them to take something away and learn from it. That's why Kishimoto created Itachi's character, so it would be a shame for that to go to waste.

yeah. I at least give a lot of importance to the one about never forgetting your friends and loved ones and I do all my best to apply it in real life. We are born dependant on others and we live dependant on others and if we forget the ones who were always there as we climbed our way in life, we'll lose ourselves in the end.

This is pretty true.

To be honest with you, i dont think it applies to everyone :/ i want to believe it does.

This is the same way I feel about it.

Anyway, really nice discussion. Glad I could read it (hopefully you both didn't mind Lol )

 

[Tennis Robot]

The symbolism though.

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That's my hope as well and the entire point behind the thread- behind all my threads involving him. I don't want people to just think "Oh, nice job". I want them to take something away and learn from it. That's why Kishimoto created Itachi's character, so it would be a shame for that to go to waste.



This is pretty true.



This is the same way I feel about it.

Anyway, really nice discussion. Glad I could read it (hopefully you both didn't mind Lol )

That's why Kishi created all of his characters (ESPECIALLY NARUTO).

You guys are so pessimistic I can't even imagine what that kind of person would be like without feeling kind of broken inside...Would someone like that even really be a person at all? Regardless, I have once again been deemed incorrect. I probably wasn't the right man for this job lol.

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Oh yeah that's a dope picture I have a lot to post tomorrow (or in the next few days). But for now...

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[Chie]

That's why Kishi created all of his characters (ESPECIALLY NARUTO).

Imo, he created most just to let the story continue. Not to teach any lessons. Not much was learned from the characters who got one chapter of panel time. Or from most of the female characters.

I can only think of less than 10 other characters that I learned something from. (But yeah, Naruto is one of the characters that we're supposed to learn good lessons from.)

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[Tennis Robot]

Imo, he created most just to let the story continue. Not to teach any lessons. Not much was learned from the characters who got one chapter of panel time. Or from most of the female characters.

I can only think of less than 10 other characters that I learned something from. (But yeah, Naruto is one of the characters that we're supposed to learn good lessons from.)

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I don't think I've ever seen you disregard such a large portion of a comment before lol.

And I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said all of his characters. And a lot of the lessons we learn from other characters are mere byproducts of Naruto's actions (so those could really just be lessons from Naruto). If I try to avoid those ones, off the top of my head:

Kisame
Kimimaro
Haku
Bunpuku
Itachi (he falls under both)
Asuma
Hashirama
Kakashi
Kabuto
Hagoromo
Madara
Might Gai

With the Naruto-influenced ones it's probably about 25.
(though a lot of them are admittedly pretty similar)

 

[Trúth]

This FC comes to life when I go to bed. Lol

 

[Tennis Robot]

I have decided

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That

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Four

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is a good number

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(The best is yet to come)


Edit: Ohohoh also, even though this isn't about Shisui and he isn't even in any of these pictures, I find it interesting that Shisui looks kinda like Ashura and Sasuke was right when he said Itachi was the one who understood Hashirama the most. Itachi, to me, represents the ideal shinobi under the system Hashirama (and Madara) devised. The fact that he was also the greatest victim of that system is kind of depressing. :/

 

[Transcendence]

That's good But at the same time, it creates conflict, don't you think? By affiliating with any group of people over any other, we create barriers between each other :/ Countries, religions, families...That's another thing Itachi talked about.

If I could just chime in here a bit...

I think what you're saying is basically a universal law (the whole barriers between people once you make affiliations with others), but only if you actually allow that to happen. For instance, I have select friends whom are like family to me. And obviously that sort of alienates other people I might meet in terms of importance, but I make sure that doesn't happen by keeping an open mind and giving everyone a chance to open up and or get close to me. I realize it's something many people nowadays have troubles doing. This inherently creates conflict because people will defend their affiliations due to their bias towards them even if the facts and logic back the other side in said conflict. One real world example would likely be the differences between the Western World and the Middle East. Beyond religious conflict, the affiliations both have completely detract from any sort of peace or affiliation between the two at all. People are too afraid of change and are too biased to see what both sides have to offer and that's what stagnates any sort of peace and it creates the barriers like you proposed. I don't have a sort of goal like you've said, but my goal in life beyond becoming a Doctor (haven't decided on my specialization yet) is to just make people happy. Spreading positivity wherever I go no matter what sort of negative emotions I may foster within me. This has backfired on me since my altruistic nature has allowed people to walk all over me (I.E. Me doing a lot for people but then them turning on me), but I'm fine with that. It's a part of life. I will continue to be altruistic and be there for people for as long as I live. No matter how small I can achieve something, I will do it. For the betterment of everyone around me. And now I realize I rambled on, but a lot of what I said relates to Itachi in the sense that, at first, you try to do everything yourself, but you can acknowledge your failures. Look to the future and hope for the best. Because sometimes hope is the only thing you have left.

 

[Tennis Robot]

If I could just chime in here a bit...

I think what you're saying is basically a universal law (the whole barriers between people once you make affiliations with others), but only if you actually allow that to happen. For instance, I have select friends whom are like family to me. And obviously that sort of alienates other people I might meet in terms of importance, but I make sure that doesn't happen by keeping an open mind and giving everyone a chance to open up and or get close to me. I realize it's something many people nowadays have troubles doing. This inherently creates conflict because people will defend their affiliations due to their bias towards them even if the facts and logic back the other side in said conflict. One real world example would likely be the differences between the Western World and the Middle East. Beyond religious conflict, the affiliations both have completely detract from any sort of peace or affiliation between the two at all. People are too afraid of change and are too biased to see what both sides have to offer and that's what stagnates any sort of peace and it creates the barriers like you proposed. I don't have a sort of goal like you've said, but my goal in life beyond becoming a Doctor (haven't decided on my specialization yet) is to just make people happy. Spreading positivity wherever I go no matter what sort of negative emotions I may foster within me. This has backfired on me since my altruistic nature has allowed people to walk all over me (I.E. Me doing a lot for people but then them turning on me), but I'm fine with that. It's a part of life. I will continue to be altruistic and be there for people for as long as I live. No matter how small I can achieve something, I will do it. For the betterment of everyone around me. And now I realize I rambled on, but a lot of what I said relates to Itachi in the sense that, at first, you try to do everything yourself, but you can acknowledge your failures. Look to the future and hope for the best. Because sometimes hope is the only thing you have left.

Yeah that's what I said. The first part anyway. You call yourself altruistic, yet I have seen you get in heated arguments with multiple members here. Also, a genuine altruist wouldn't care how other people treated them.

 

[Transcendence]

Yeah that's what I said. The first part anyway. You call yourself altruistic, yet I have seen you get in heated arguments with multiple members here. Also, a genuine altruist wouldn't care how other people treated them.

Most of the arguments here are just joking around. Only when I feel genuinely offended or disgusted by something will I lash out. But then again, this is the internet. It only goes so far as for being a medium for anything. When I call myself an altruist, I am talking about the way I am towards people I meet in real life, or the people online that I talk more personally with. If there are no strings attached in any sort of way, I have no need to go out of my way for someone I don't even know anything about. And yes, a genuine altruist would care about how others treated them. If they didn't, they would be neglecting the ability to actually feel anything. Every action that happens for us warrants a reaction to solidify the actual action. If you don't care how people treat you then you're asking to be walked all over.

 

[Tennis Robot]

Most of the arguments here are just joking around. Only when I feel genuinely offended or disgusted by something will I lash out. But then again, this is the internet. It only goes so far as for being a medium for anything. When I call myself an altruist, I am talking about the way I am towards people I meet in real life, or the people online that I talk more personally with. If there are no strings attached in any sort of way, I have no need to go out of my way for someone I don't even know anything about. And yes, a genuine altruist would care about how others treated them. If they didn't, they would be neglecting the ability to actually feel anything. Every action that happens for us warrants a reaction to solidify the actual action. If you don't care how people treat you then you're asking to be walked all over.

That's not true. The "perfect" love, as it has been called, is based in the idea that one doesn't care how they are treated by others. Understand the fact that they are human, and love them for it. Any other form of love, where one end always feels entitled to a certain standard of treatment simply for caring, isn't real.

It might be impossible though. I have been in a great deal of pain for a few days now because of something that was said to me by someone I love. Even though my feelings for that person won't change, I have been trying pretty hard to distract myself here ever since it happened. It's interesting. The pain is actually constant. Even when I have been distracted, the feeling in my chest has never once subsided. It would be a lot worse if I weren't distracted though. So thanks NB

It must have hurt Itachi so much...

 

[Chie]

I don't think I've ever seen you disregard such a large portion of a comment before lol.

And I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said all of his characters. And a lot of the lessons we learn from other characters are mere byproducts of Naruto's actions (so those could really just be lessons from Naruto). If I try to avoid those ones, off the top of my head:

Kisame
Kimimaro
Haku
Bunpuku
Itachi (he falls under both)
Asuma
Hashirama
Kakashi
Kabuto
Hagoromo
Madara
Might Gai

With the Naruto-influenced ones it's probably about 25.
(though a lot of them are admittedly pretty similar)

Yeah, I don't think I have either. xD

The reason I didn't quote the rest is because I didn't really have anything to say there. It happens. U_U

To each their own. Yes, it could be around 25-30 characters, but that's with some of them repeating the same exact themes. Also, in a way if one looked hard enough- they'd be able to find something special with most of the cast. Some would be more influential than others.

This is mainly up to opinion after the obvious ones, since people usually choose to absorb what knowledge they find pleasing. To me, only less than 10 characters taught a lesson that most of the fandom will notice and keep in mind, that including myself. This isn't to say that the other characters are meaningless, it's more to say that they didn't have as great of an impact. Years down the line, I highly doubt that any fan will recall more than a few of their faves from this series, if even that. Same goes to any other anime/manga series.

 

[Tennis Robot]

Yeah, I don't think I have either. xD

The reason I didn't quote the rest is because I didn't really have anything to say there. It happens. U_U

To each their own. Yes, it could be around 25-30 characters, but that's with some of them repeating the same exact themes. Also, in a way if one looked hard enough- they'd be able to find something special with most of the cast. Some would be more influential than others.

This is mainly up to opinion after the obvious ones, since people usually choose to absorb what knowledge they find pleasing. To me, only less than 10 characters taught a lesson that most of the fandom will notice and keep in mind, that including myself. This isn't to say that the other characters are meaningless, it's more to say that they didn't have as great of an impact. Years down the line, I highly doubt that any fan will recall more than a few of their faves from this series, if even that. Same goes to any other anime/manga series.

That's fair enough. Most of the ones I listed only had like one memorable/impactful moment anyway

 

[Chie]

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[KayaUzumaki]

*IMPORTANT NOTE* Hey guys, I just wanted to remind everyone to keep things centered around Itachi in here. I know some of the recent conversations have been deep and meaningful (and that's awesome!), but I'm concerned that things might be getting off topic. Not getting anyone in trouble. Not singling anyone out. And by no means am I trying to kill any good discussions. I just want to make sure that everyone enjoys themselves and gets along. :ilu: If you feel that a discussion is heading off topic, please feel free to continue it in PM or profiles. Again, I'm not typing this in response to any particular person, just trying to avoid any mod involvement like I've seen in a few other FCs.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled Itachi-ness...