[Discussion] The Juubi's Jin is NOT Immune to Ninjutsu.

[Shinato]

If just floating at his back, Why one Orb which is inside the smoke (below 0ne) & look exactly heal his back, where it should be infront the smoke like the other 2 as shown at 2nd last panel..

I would call it a drawing mistake or just drawn from a weird angle. Madara was able to regenerate half his body without the balls, there would be no need for Obito having to do it if Madara didn't.

 

[KLhunter]

I would call it a drawing mistake or just drawn from a weird angle. Madara was able to regenerate half his body without the balls, there would be no need for Obito having to do it if Madara didn't.

OMG.. Are you Kishi, can make assume just like that... hmmmm.... For Madara case, I think you forgot he stolen Hashirama God Sage Art Chakra...

 

[Shinato]

OMG.. Are you Kishi, can make assume just like that... hmmmm.... For Madara case, I think you forgot he stolen Hashirama God Sage Art Chakra...

If Hashirama was able to regenerate vital organs, then I doubt he would have died in the first place by any normal Shinobi. ( Which it seems like he did as he died fairly young. ) Also I said I would call it, there is nothing that supports the theory that the orbs can even heal. So I came up with another possible explanation of it.

 

[KLhunter]

If Hashirama was able to regenerate vital organs, then I doubt he would have died in the first place by any normal Shinobi. ( Which it seems like he did as he died fairly young. ) Also I said I would call it, there is nothing that supports the theory that the orbs can even heal. So I came up with another possible explanation of it.

Yet again based on assumption... Hashirama didn't die young cause his the one who teach his "GRANDCHILD TSUNADE" gambling habbit. This proof Hashirama life long enough. As I know manga doesn't state what cause Hashirama die & who kill him..

Yes, there is no theory said the orbs can heal cause nobody discuss it before.....

 

[Shinato]

Yet again based on assumption... Hashirama didn't die young cause his the one who teach his "GRANDCHILD TSUNADE" gambling habbit. This proof Hashirama life long enough. As I know manga doesn't state what cause Hashirama die & who kill him..

Yes, there is no theory said the orbs can heal cause nobody discuss it before.....

Hashirama was revived through Edo Tensei at a young age, you are revived as you die. The only exception to this is Madara as Kabuto did something special with him. You can be 40 and still have a grandchild, and 40 years old is still fairly young to die by today's standards and when you look at the characters in the Narutoverse, its fairly young to. If he died young then he either died of disease or in combat, say he died in combat. There wouldn't be a single Shinobi alive that could even threaten him the slightest. So no normal Shinobi would be able to even fight him head on, I also doubt thousands of shinobis would be able to do it. If he died of disease then that doesn't really make sense if he was able to grow back vital organs. Since a disease is a damage to the organs of the body.

He could simply rip them out and grow new ones. By all logical standards, Hashirama died from disease and as I said if he was able to heal like Madara is now then he wouldn't be able to die of disease. So, Madara's healing doesn't come from Hashirama's Senjutsu, it comes from him being the Juubi's Jin.

Also, there have never been a theory if the orbs could heal or not because it doesn't make sense and its not needed as the Juubi's Jin can heal perfectly well on their own.

 

[Ultimateone]

honestly, i have thought this myself. i realized that he always used the orbs to block jutsu. also the fact that the juubi itself wasn't immune to ninjutsu, it just either wasn't powerful enough to do real damage or it would remove part of it's body. honestly it makes sense that it's the orbs that negate the ninjutsu. although when naruto hit obito with the rasengan, obito didn't try and use the orbs to do anything, yet he was surprised that the attack actually hurt him. i'm still leaning more toward it being the orbs that make them immune.

 

[Shinato]

honestly, i have thought this myself. i realized that he always used the orbs to block jutsu. also the fact that the juubi itself wasn't immune to ninjutsu, it just either wasn't powerful enough to do real damage or it would remove part of it's body. honestly it makes sense that it's the orbs that negate the ninjutsu. although when naruto hit obito with the rasengan, obito didn't try and use the orbs to do anything, yet he was surprised that the attack actually hurt him. i'm still leaning more toward it being the orbs that make them immune.

I guess he was surprised that it did the amount of damage it did. Senjutsu is still the Jin's weakness, but the Jin is not immune to Ninjutsu by any means.

 

[SuperChief]

People need to realise Naruto used a Senjutsu Rasengan because Obito wouldn't be able to block it if he used his Onmyōton, not because Senjutsu is the only thing that can hurt him.

 

[Shinato]

People need to realise Naruto used a Senjutsu Rasengan because Obito wouldn't be able to block it if he used his Onmyōton, not because Senjutsu is the only thing that can hurt him.

Ah someone with a mind of their own and logic between their ears!

 

[Uchiha DNA]

i agree completely.

people don't get the point.

the thing is that senjutsu can't be neglected by onmyoudon. its needed to break through that black stuff. yet that doesn't mean, that ninjutsu cant damage the juubijin. and of course, senjutsu attacks are stronger than regular attacks, hence naruto uses senpou instead of ninpou to maximize the damage

 

[Honord Sage]

Yet the manga supports my point about the Juubi's Jin not being immune to Ninjutsu. Its the fanbase who's created the fake ideal that a Juubi's Jin is completely immune. So that proves my point and disapprove your point, as one can obviously change the facts of the manga as the fanbase did that when they said that the Juubi's Jin is immune to Ninjutsu.

Stop your lies,You are a liar. And Liar out to have their tough cut out and fed to Rats as an example of what a low life you are Chapter 674 will have Sasuke use Black Senjutsu Chakra to try to Hurt Madara. You are the Boy who Cried out Wolf ones too many time. You are an Obama,if you like your jutsu you can keep it,If you like your Sensei You can keep Him.

 

[KLhunter]

Hashirama was revived through Edo Tensei at a young age, you are revived as you die. The only exception to this is Madara as Kabuto did something special with him. You can be 40 and still have a grandchild, and 40 years old is still fairly young to die by today's standards and when you look at the characters in the Narutoverse, its fairly young to. If he died young then he either died of disease or in combat, say he died in combat. There wouldn't be a single Shinobi alive that could even threaten him the slightest. So no normal Shinobi would be able to even fight him head on, I also doubt thousands of shinobis would be able to do it. If he died of disease then that doesn't really make sense if he was able to grow back vital organs. Since a disease is a damage to the organs of the body.

He could simply rip them out and grow new ones. By all logical standards, Hashirama died from disease and as I said if he was able to heal like Madara is now then he wouldn't be able to die of disease. So, Madara's healing doesn't come from Hashirama's Senjutsu, it comes from him being the Juubi's Jin.

Also, there have never been a theory if the orbs could heal or not because it doesn't make sense and its not needed as the Juubi's Jin can heal perfectly well on their own.

Yet again just assumption.. As I know, kabuto make Madara body can accept Hashirama DNA genes perfectly & not like Obito, Danzo, White/Black Zetsu after he saw & knew Yamato was Oro best experiment result.. Edo Tensei resurrection actually lie on the caster itself either to resurrect at the lowest/mid/higher power state.. Has been proof by Oro itself when he resurrect Hashirama & Tobirama for 2nd time.. Didn't Tobirama said "this time their resurrection at almost their fullpower compare to 1st time resurrection".. Your Edo Tensei assumption not valid here...

 

[FourthSmokage]

The black orbs are what dissolves the ninjutsu but the Juubi's thick skin also helps matters.

Otherwise Obito would be dead here, where no black orbs were present beside him until after the attack had hit.

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[saw2097]

i agree completely.

people don't get the point.

the thing is that senjutsu can't be neglected by onmyoudon. its needed to break through that black stuff. yet that doesn't mean, that ninjutsu cant damage the juubijin. and of course, senjutsu attacks are stronger than regular attacks, hence naruto uses senpou instead of ninpou to maximize the damage

No the black stuff can block Senjutsu, its a shield like any other, Gamakichi showed that when he shot a Senjutsu attack but Obito had to block it with the orbs, that's how they figured out that Senjutsu works against Ten Tailed Jinchuriki.