The first four Hokage vs. Nagato, Itachi, Tobi and Deidara

[Nilloc Uzumaki]

Your thoughts?

 

[Deadai]

team akatsuki wins

 

[Ethylacetat]

also team akatsuki

 

[joer123]

Team Hokage.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

C4 Karura will decide it.

 

[iSpeak]

Akatsuki lowmid difficulty.

 

[Blaze Release]

Slaughter. If its current tobi you are talking about, its deffo a slaughter

 

[Owarij]

C4 Karura will decide it.

this

Akatsuki

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Nagato with his 6 paths and Tobi are enough imo

 

[siyo]

I'm going with Team Hokage.

Nagato will be the biggest problem, but hashirama and hiruzen will take him down.Hashirama would take itachi and tobirama would help one of the others after defeating deidara.

Btw I'm assuming that you are speaking about the old tobi, without the rinnegan.

 

[Kyuubikiller]

I'd have to go with Akatsuki, assuming this is current Tobi, two rennigans is just too much. Now with old Tobi, then maybe the Hokages would have a chance.

 

[Universal Enlightenment]

Lmao he made this thread because i said itachi & Pein are enough to beat 5 hokages

 

[Nilloc Uzumaki]

Lmao he made this thread because i said itachi & Pein are enough to beat 5 hokages

I don't remember you in any thread...lol sorry. I actually made this because I wanted to see how ridiculous people are.

Hashirama>Itachi
Tobirama>Deidara
Hiruzen(>any akatsuki one on one)>Nagato
Minato>Tobi (no Rinnegan, everyone has their base powers;regardless, I still say Minato wins until I see Tobi and Naruto fight.)

 

[Guildmage]

I don't remember you in any thread...lol sorry. I actually made this because I wanted to see how ridiculous people are.

Hashirama>Itachi
Tobirama>Deidara
Hiruzen(>any akatsuki one on one)>Nagato
Minato>Tobi (no Rinnegan, everyone has their base powers;regardless, I still say Minato wins until I see Tobi and Naruto fight.)

seriously?

Itachi's susanoo can cut through hashirama's forest anytime
C4 karura can be a most likely fight ender
Chibaku Tensei another fight ender

we don't know what tobirama can do or what HIRUZEN IS REALLY MADE OF.

where is your proof that hashirama can beat itachi?
where is your proof that tobirama can beat deidara?
where is your proof that HIRUZEN which could barely defeat oro could even desire to defeat nagato?

minato DID DEFEAT TOBI (this is the only one that I will accept)

so for facts TEAM AKATSUKI DESTROYS HOKAGES
if it's for hype then TEAM HOKAGES DEFEATS AKATSUKI

 

[hatakeijiha]

team hokage

 

[Nilloc Uzumaki]

seriously?

Itachi's susanoo can cut through hashirama's forest anytime
C4 karura can be a most likely fight ender
Chibaku Tensei another fight ender

we don't know what tobirama can do or what HIRUZEN IS REALLY MADE OF.

where is your proof that hashirama can beat itachi?
where is your proof that tobirama can beat deidara?
where is your proof that HIRUZEN which could barely defeat oro could even desire to defeat nagato?

minato DID DEFEAT TOBI (this is the only one that I will accept)

so for facts TEAM AKATSUKI DESTROYS HOKAGES
if it's for hype then TEAM HOKAGES DEFEATS AKATSUKI

This C4 argument gets old. "OMG ITS A BOMB YOU CAN'T SEE!" I can easily say "OMG ITS A MOVE YOU CAN'T DODGE!" about Minato's FTG Rasengan. Look at it from this perspective. In any battle that Kishi would ever write, do you honestly think Deidara would beat any of the Hokage? Deidara never won a single effing battle in the series, unless you count the Gaara fight, when Gaara was much more worried about the village than Deidara. Gaara vs. Deidara in an area away from the village, Gaara wins. Deidara is weak as hell, second weakest of Akatsuki, just ahead of Hidan. And I could make the argument that Deidara is worse than him.

Chibaku Tensei is great, no doubt. This is the only thing I don't dispute in your argument. BUT if Minato could send a TBB away and still have plenty of chakra left, I don't doubt he could send NAGATO'S CT (way weaker than the SO6P's) away.

Hiruzen as a 70 year old held his own against Orochimaru, someone who seems to have become vastly underrated in this forum. Hiruzen as a 30 year old would have his way with Nagato(I mean, Naruto w/o KM went toe to toe with him, come on).

Ahh you bring up an interesting point: proof. Something NEITHER of us have.

However, let me give you a history lesson. Years ago, before the series ever started, Hashirama defeated a legendary Ninja. I think he is name was Midera or something like that. Maybe Madara. Not real sure. Anyways, this guy is considered the strongest Uchiha of all time. Now, fast forward years later, Itachi is born into the clan. Even after his death, Medara is considered the strongest of the Uchiha. Madera also had Susano'o and his didn't protect him from Hashirama. Don't underestimate his wood release either. Therefore, common sense tells us, Hashirama>Midara>Itachi.

Lol at the Tobirama/Deidara argument. I don't even need to see Tobirama in a real battle to know he would wipe the floor with Deidara. Edo Tensei, S/T jutsu and his water release prowess are all better than ALL of Deidara's skills. Tobirama is a Senju (one of the two greatest Ninja clans) and one of its top members(#2 only to Hashirama). Deidara is some village outcast with rejection issues, probably stemming from the fact that his "art" sucks and no one likes it. Oh and on top of that, he has anger issues. What a failure.

Oh I am sorry a SEVENTY YEAR OLD man didn't live up to your expectations by defeating one of the strongest villains in the Narutoverse. Sheesh. Michael Jordan is in his mid 40s now. If he beat LeBron in a one on one game by one point, I think its safe to say that he would have destroyed LeBron in his prime. By that, wouldn't you say its safe to say he could beat Kobe as well if MJ was in his prime? Idk if you know who these people are but some people will get what I am saying. My main point. Orochimaru<Old Hiruzen<Nagato<Young Hiruzen. I mean not only did the guy get named Hokage when he was like 18. Pretty damn impressive just sayin. That would be like someone becoming a five star general in the military at age 18 these days.

Thank you for not disputing this obvious fact.

What facts support that they win? You listed a couple jutsu lol there are no "facts" that will prove me or you wrong. We debate and hope we can sway others with educated guesses and speculation.

 

[Uchiha seeker]

Team Akatsuki will win this

 

[Owarij]

This C4 argument gets old. "OMG ITS A BOMB YOU CAN'T SEE!" I can easily say "OMG ITS A MOVE YOU CAN'T DODGE!" about Minato's FTG Rasengan. Look at it from this perspective. In any battle that Kishi would ever write, do you honestly think Deidara would beat any of the Hokage? Deidara never won a single effing battle in the series, unless you count the Gaara fight, when Gaara was much more worried about the village than Deidara. Gaara vs. Deidara in an area away from the village, Gaara wins. Deidara is weak as hell, second weakest of Akatsuki, just ahead of Hidan. And I could make the argument that Deidara is worse than him.

Chibaku Tensei is great, no doubt. This is the only thing I don't dispute in your argument. BUT if Minato could send a TBB away and still have plenty of chakra left, I don't doubt he could send NAGATO'S CT (way weaker than the SO6P's) away.

Hiruzen as a 70 year old held his own against Orochimaru, someone who seems to have become vastly underrated in this forum. Hiruzen as a 30 year old would have his way with Nagato(I mean, Naruto w/o KM went toe to toe with him, come on).

Ahh you bring up an interesting point: proof. Something NEITHER of us have.

However, let me give you a history lesson. Years ago, before the series ever started, Hashirama defeated a legendary Ninja. I think he is name was Midera or something like that. Maybe Madara. Not real sure. Anyways, this guy is considered the strongest Uchiha of all time. Now, fast forward years later, Itachi is born into the clan. Even after his death, Medara is considered the strongest of the Uchiha. Madera also had Susano'o and his didn't protect him from Hashirama. Don't underestimate his wood release either. Therefore, common sense tells us, Hashirama>Midara>Itachi.

Lol at the Tobirama/Deidara argument. I don't even need to see Tobirama in a real battle to know he would wipe the floor with Deidara. Edo Tensei, S/T jutsu and his water release prowess are all better than ALL of Deidara's skills. Tobirama is a Senju (one of the two greatest Ninja clans) and one of its top members(#2 only to Hashirama). Deidara is some village outcast with rejection issues, probably stemming from the fact that his "art" sucks and no one likes it. Oh and on top of that, he has anger issues. What a failure.

Oh I am sorry a SEVENTY YEAR OLD man didn't live up to your expectations by defeating one of the strongest villains in the Narutoverse. Sheesh. Michael Jordan is in his mid 40s now. If he beat LeBron in a one on one game by one point, I think its safe to say that he would have destroyed LeBron in his prime. By that, wouldn't you say its safe to say he could beat Kobe as well if MJ was in his prime? Idk if you know who these people are but some people will get what I am saying. My main point. Orochimaru<Old Hiruzen<Nagato<Young Hiruzen. I mean not only did the guy get named Hokage when he was like 18. Pretty damn impressive just sayin. That would be like someone becoming a five star general in the military at age 18 these days.

Thank you for not disputing this obvious fact.

What facts support that they win? You listed a couple jutsu lol there are no "facts" that will prove me or you wrong. We debate and hope we can sway others with educated guesses and speculation.

That doesn't change the fact that they can't see or dodge the nano bombs...
And that ftg can be seen countered and dodged....

 

[Nilloc Uzumaki]

That doesn't change the fact that they can't see or dodge the nano bombs...
And that ftg can be seen countered and dodged....

Lol FTG can be seen(but not by Deidara), countered(Tobi only pretty much and not even all the time), and (possibly) dodged (by A or Naruto)

*Battle starts* *Minato FTG kills Deidara, FTG kills Itachi, FTG kills Nagato* *Four on One favors Hokage*

^See how ridiculous that sounds (as does your C4 argument)? Even though its technically plausible (as is your C4 argument). I take Minato's FTG over Deidara's C4 any day.

 

[Nilloc Uzumaki]

Btw Owarij, I do enjoy your determination and strong opinions, it makes our debates much more enjoyable