The amount that Naruto has been nerfed is just ridiculous

[AlphaScythian]

Summary: My favorite character didn't stomp Sasuke like I wanted him to so he was nerfed.

Lol

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[Vapid]

By that Logic the same goes with Sasuke using Itachi's eyes and the Sage's chakra that gave him Rinnegan. Both use given power, get over it. Kurama as a powerup cost Naruto more drawbacks so of course the benefits of said power would be better than Itachi's eyes which only drawback was Itachi's death. Naruto got both his parents death plus a bunch of other things for Kurama's power.

No, buddy, you've got it all wrong.

• Sasuke isn't even using the Sage's chakra (Yin Release).
• Sasuke using Itachi's eyes is a moot point, since he has none of Itachi's abilities that he didn't have prior to acquiring the latter's eyes.
• It's not even about given power; that's what you Naruto fans can't comprehend. To be given power is one thing; to use that power on your own is another. Naruto isn't known to use his given power on his own at all (he apparently lacks the ability to do so).
  
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• How many times must it be stated that Kurama is essentially like having another human being inside of you that gathers chakra for and can relay information to you, as well as grant you abilities derivative of it? This is why Naruto isn't nerfed. Those abilities are those of Kurama, not him.

 

[Dannie]

I didn't see anyone counter KidGamer's post yet.

Until then, this thread is trashed.

 

[Transcendence]

Funny. That means you are no different then the previous person I responded to, or simply lack any common sense. Sasuke said he cannot control his eye because of his low chakra levels [

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], but you don't see people saying that now, do you?

You should know me by now, I am a Sasuke fan above else, but please relax with the bias. I meant at that specific moment, he wouldn't have been able to control his Rin'negan to use Preta. When he was in front of Naruto at the end of the chapter, they both exhausted all chakra and therefore weren't taxing their chakra levels anymore. Notice how Sasuke's eye was also partially open (the one with the Rin'negan) so he could use it again once more, hence him absorbing chakra, but it was through the medium of Naruto's body, not a blatant attack like Rasengan.

Sasuke's lack of control earlier in the chapter (his eye was closed from over exhaustion) would have spelled the end of him if the Rasengan wasn't interrupted by that obscenely terrible pebble trip. Nerf was the wrong word, but Sasuke got lucky and you know it. Sasuke regained control of his Rin'negan at the end of the fight because he didn't have to use chakra taxing moves like Amaterasu to attack Naruto, hence why his eye opened again.

 

[take it easy]

Any moron could understand that Naruto was nerfed against Sasko after seeing his work against Madara/Kaguya

 

[Mad Daz]

I didn't see anyone counter KidGamer's post yet.

Until then, this thread is trashed.

Whatever you have to tell yourselves is cool with us.

 

[KayaUzumaki]

No, no it doesn't.

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The backlash distribution has been equal every time.

You know what I've realized...Chidori is already an elemental attack. It's not even base at all. The fact that base Rasengan (without any elemental affinity added) can stalemate Chidori every time speaks a lot to how strong base Rasengan is.

Well, you have to realize that a good portion of Naruto's arsenal doesn't belong to him in the first place, but rather to Kurama.

Funny...same can be said for Sasuke. Almost everything Sasuke has was derived from someone else. These same "Naruto was given everything while Sasuke earned his" arguments are ridiculous considering it's the exact opposite.

What's sad is that Naruto would have died twice in a single chapter if Kurama hadn't saved him both times.

Sasuke isn't fighting Naruto, he's fighting Kurama at this point.

Sasuke would have already been dead if the Sage hadn't saved him. Then this fight would have never happened. Just goes to show what Sasuke's loneliness really brings him.

Man I love that argument so much. Have you people not read the manga? Kurama is not an excuse for Naruto's power. IT IS NARUTO'S POWER. Once you come to terms with that, you'll finally be at peace with how stupid your statement (not you) sounds.

Thank you! I so wish I could +rep you right now.

 

[Dannie]

Any moron could understand that Naruto was nerfed against Sasko after seeing his work against Madara/Kaguya

What did Naruto actually do to Madara that was better than what Sasuke did to Madara?

> The only thing that Kaguya has is insane chakra and dimensional shift ability.

Whatever you have to tell yourselves is cool with us.

You never argue. You just spout irrelevant trash with one-liners.

You are nothing.

 

[Black Adam]

I could write an entire essay on this shit. Naruto is not allowed to use his Sage skills like his super hax sensing or Frog Kata to knock his head into orb, his chakra reserves are being nerfed to high hell so much that he's just magically out of chakra at such a vital moment despite fighting for 3 days against gods and showing no sign of slowing down, and this is AFTER the Bijuu are placed inside him, his clones got one hit by shuriken despite having tanking feats that absolutely SHIT on that (not to mention he only made ****ing 4), but whatever.


There's not a single doubt that the fight would have ended right here had Naruto not tripped.

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Base Rasengan shits on Base Chidori, so Kishimoto had to have Naruto fall down with exhaustion. THIS IN AND OF ITSELF IS A NERF too becaue Naruto could have just thrown a little Lava in there, maybe some Boil Release, hell even Jiton Rasengan again, and the fight would be neg diffed right then and there.

But nope. They have to trade blows and Sasuke has to siphon even more chakra away because he hasn't already been gift wrapped enough presents. I like the brawling, but the logic of this fight is complete shit.

I'm laughing my a$$ off 4right now because everything you typed is 100% fact....

 

[Dannie]

I'm laughing my a$$ off 4right now because everything you typed is 100% fact....

More like 100% butthurt.

 

[Tennis Robot]

Do you have to be so belligerent?

 

[Transcendence]

What did Naruto actually do to Madara that was better than what Sasuke did to Madara?

> The only thing that Kaguya has is insane chakra and dimensional shift ability.



You never argue. You just spout irrelevant trash with one-liners.

You are nothing.

Sasuke shined momentarily because of his S/T ability in the beginning, but Naruto's superiority was apparent when he was demolishing all of the CT Madara used with "measly" TBBFRS. Although Sasuke's Susano'o's agility was impressive as well. In the Kaguya fight it isn't debatable. Sasuke was getting swatted around like a fly most of the time while Naruto did most of the fighting. He went toe to toe with Kaguya's chakra arms, outsmarted her (not a big feat though) utilizing the TSB clone swap, and when he got angry, he literally was so fast that he blitzed off her arm.

What she has better than Madara? She's faster, stronger, has the innate ability to absorb chakra (so her coming anywhere close to either of them is extremely dangerous), her dimensional shift ability is essentially a reality warping ability, a massive TSB, Ash killing bones can't be absorbed as it isn't chakra etc. She's far stronger than Madara.

 

[Strawberry]

he was too OP before anyways its called balancing

 

[Mad Daz]

What did Naruto actually do to Madara that was better than what Sasuke did to Madara?

> The only thing that Kaguya has is insane chakra and dimensional shift ability.



You never argue. You just spout irrelevant trash with one-liners.

You are nothing.

Looks like you didnt read the thread then, owned low diff by me

 

[Apêx1]

You should know me by now, I am a Sasuke fan above else, but please relax with the bias. I meant at that specific moment, he wouldn't have been able to control his Rin'negan to use Preta. When he was in front of Naruto at the end of the chapter, they both exhausted all chakra and therefore weren't taxing their chakra levels anymore. Notice how Sasuke's eye was also partially open (the one with the Rin'negan) so he could use it again once more, hence him absorbing chakra, but it was through the medium of Naruto's body, not a blatant attack like Rasengan.

Sasuke's lack of control earlier in the chapter (his eye was closed from over exhaustion) would have spelled the end of him if the Rasengan wasn't interrupted by that obscenely terrible pebble trip. Nerf was the wrong word, but Sasuke got lucky and you know it. Sasuke regained control of his Rin'negan at the end of the fight because he didn't have to use chakra taxing moves like Amaterasu to attack Naruto, hence why his eye opened again.

That's what I thought, but all I see is Naruto support in your posts lately, denying that they are equals as Kishi has shown. I don't see why you suggest that, as I said before. It was only until a few pages that Naruto used his Rasengan, and I have no reason to believe Sasuke couldn't use Rasengan at that specific moment, since I already established his eye usage is dependant on chakra. And no, it was never open, don't see where you got that from.. [

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]. So no, he used Preta while his eye was closed, therefor that whole point is moot. Moreover, using Preta on Naruto or his technique makes no difference, using the technique means he can use the Rinnegan, and using the Rinnegan means he still has acess to enough chakra to utilise his Preta.

Nope, closed before and after. And no, I don't know he got lucky, don't know where you got that from. Had he kept running, it would've been absorbed, so Naruto is the one who got lucky in that matter. Proof? I don't see an open eye, can you show it to me? I really don't see it in the same page he employs preta

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[Vapid]

You know what I've realized...Chidori is already an elemental attack. It's not even base at all. The fact that base Rasengan (without any elemental affinity added) can stalemate Chidori every time speaks a lot to how strong base Rasengan is.

So you've essentially realized that you were wrong?

Funny...same can be said for Sasuke. Almost everything Sasuke has was derived from someone else. These same "Naruto was given everything while Sasuke earned his" arguments are ridiculous considering it's the exact opposite.

You couldn't be more wrong.

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No, buddy, you've got it all wrong.

• Sasuke isn't even using the Sage's chakra (Yin Release).
• Sasuke using Itachi's eyes is a moot point, since he has none of Itachi's abilities that he didn't have prior to acquiring the latter's eyes.
• It's not even about given power; that's what you Naruto fans can't comprehend. To be given power is one thing; to use that power on your own is another. Naruto isn't known to use his given power on his own at all (he apparently lacks the ability to do so).
  
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• How many times must it be stated that Kurama is essentially like having another human being inside of you that gathers chakra for and can relay information to you, as well as grant you abilities derivative of it? This is why Naruto isn't nerfed. Those abilities are those of Kurama, not him.

Man I love that argument so much. Have you people not read the manga? Kurama is not an excuse for Naruto's power. IT IS NARUTO'S POWER. Once you come to terms with that, you'll finally be at peace with how stupid your statement (not you) sounds.

You lost all credibility when you referred to Kurama as "it". How about I refer to you as an "it"?

Kurama is to Naruto what a student is to a sensei (shitty analogy, but...) - both are conscious, intelligent entities.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Any moron could understand that Naruto was nerfed against Sasko after seeing his work against Madara/Kaguya

Being saved twice by Obito against madara and then kaguya? Great job.

 

[Mad Daz]

Being saved twice by Obito against madara and then kaguya? Great job.

That moment you relize someones opinions will never be valid again.

 

[Dannie]

Sasuke shined momentarily because of his S/T ability in the beginning, but Naruto's superiority was apparent when he was demolishing all of the CT Madara used with "measly" TBBFRS. Although Sasuke's Susano'o's agility was impressive as well.

Momentarily?
So was Naruto shining when he was about to get captured by Mugen Tenshi before Sasuke stopped him?

1. Sasuke S/T ability is his ability now and it saved team 7 from IT.
2. Naruto has more DC than Sasuke so obviously he would destroy more than him. It doesn't mean that Naruto was superior to Sasuke given that his eye saved him from certain hypnosis.

In the Kaguya fight it isn't debatable. Sasuke was getting swatted around like a fly most of the time while Naruto did most of the fighting. He went toe to toe with Kaguya's chakra arms, outsmarted her (not a big feat though) utilizing the TSB clone swap, and when he got angry, he literally was so fast that he blitzed off her arm.

That was Sasuke's plan all along.

What she has better than Madara? She's faster, stronger, has the innate ability to absorb chakra (so her coming anywhere close to either of them is extremely dangerous), her dimensional shift ability is essentially a reality warping ability, a massive TSB, Ash killing bones can't be absorbed as it isn't chakra etc. She's far stronger than Madara.

Yeah, Kaguya is stronger than Madara. No one is saying otherwise.
This is probably one of the main reasons why you Naruto fanboys like to bring in the Kaguya fight and ignore the Madara fight.

Madara and Sasuke have more skill in terms of fighting than Kaguya. Kaguya can only take directions from a plant.

 

[BLAZE]

Summary: My favorite character didn't stomp Sasuke like I wanted him to so he was nerfed.

Lol

Nah more like OP's F@P for his fav Power was got wasted

I didn't see anyone counter KidGamer's post yet.

Until then, this thread is trashed.

The ans obvious Lol