The amount that Naruto has been nerfed is just ridiculous

[V h o]

Kurama could gather sage mode since Naruto was fighting the Juubi, thats not a new powerup.
After the kaguya fight ended Sasuke got the bijuu's chakra for himself, while naruto didnt get new powerups.

Senjutsu, not sage mode.

 

[KidGamer65]

Lol, to some morons nowadays nerf=My favorite character didn't do what I wanted him to do.

 

[Mr SwizZz]

Senjutsu, not sage mode.

But you know I was talking about natural energy anyway so im glad ^_^

 

[Vapid]

That was an innate ability...

And this, folks, is exactly why Naruto isn't being nerfed. None of his so-called nerfed abilities aren't innate; most of them do not belong to him in the first place, but rather to Kurama.

Just because Sasuke's making Naruto fight this battle on his own and shooting down every possibility of Naruto gaining biju assistance (Chibaku Tensei'd the other 8 biju buddies; stole the chakra Yin Kurama was gathering for Naruto) doesn't mean that the latter is being nerfed.

That literally means nothing in the current convo, and seeing as Kushina or mito were no where near Naruto's level as a jin, it's obvious that having the kyuubi does not automatically make you top 10. Only Naruto can do what he does with kurama, no one else can, and it's pointless to bring up borrowed power.

Actually, it does. Refer above.

 

[Mr SwizZz]

And this, folks, why Naruto isn't being nerfed. None of his so-called nerfed abilities aren't innate; most of them do not belong to him in the first place, but rather to Kurama.

Just because Sasuke's making Naruto fight this battle on his own and shooting down ever possibility of Naruto gaining biju assistance (Chibaku Tensei'd the other 8 biju buddies; stole the chakra Yin Kurama was gathering for Naruto) doesn't mean that the latter is being nerfed.

Does Sasuke's Preta Path belong to him in the first place or has the rinnegan been given to him?

 

[AlphaScythian]

Kurama could gather sage mode since Naruto was fighting the Juubi, thats not a new powerup.
After the kaguya fight ended Sasuke got the bijuu's chakra for himself, while naruto didnt get new powerups.

Nope, kurama wasnt shown to gather nature energy before. You have no proof of that.
Yup sasuke got bijuus and was scripted to use it in lame way where all that shit got blown up, cry more.

That was an innate ability that Madara (and Kaguya) possess. They could absorb chakra, but not Ninjutsu, which is what Rasengan is. (Madara didn't absorb Amaterasu, he removed his armour). Sasuke wouldn't be able to absorb the Rasengan without control over his Sharin'negan to utilize Preta Path.

Sasuke clearly said its rinnegan power, kaguya was said to be able to absorb all ninjutsu. it just seems that its unlocked by the eye but its body ability like susanoo.

Agreed, the only people thinking naruto wasnt brought down to sasukes level for this fight are sasukebase members, just look read the thread lol.

Naruto has half of kurama while sasuke had all 9 bijuu helping him and he still threw it.

Usual nardo fans BS, they overhype nardo beyond belief then cry nerf when sasuke is on par. KCM speed anyone?

 

[Vapid]

Does Sasuke's Preta Path belong to him in the first place or has the rinnegan been given to him?

Sasuke's Rinnegan, like his Sharingan, is a shinobi tool that he uses on his own.

Kurama is a living, breathing, conscious entity sealed up inside of Naruto that can relay information to and gather chakra for him.

You tell me.

 

[Retsu]

And this, folks, is exactly why Naruto isn't being nerfed. None of his so-called nerfed abilities aren't innate; most of them do not belong to him in the first place, but rather to Kurama.

Just because Sasuke's making Naruto fight this battle on his own and shooting down every possibility of Naruto gaining biju assistance (Chibaku Tensei'd the other 8 biju buddies; stole the chakra Yin Kurama was gathering for Naruto) doesn't mean that the latter is being nerfed.


Actually, it does. Refer above.

Once again this proves nothing since no one can fight on Naruto's level with kurama like he can, as evidenced by the fact that mito and kushina never had bm

 

[Mad Daz]

Nope, kurama wasnt shown to gather nature energy before. You have no proof of that.
Yup sasuke got bijuus and was scripted to use it in lame way where all that shit got blown up, cry more.
Sasuke clearly said its rinnegan power, kaguya was said to be able to absorb all ninjutsu. it just seems that its unlocked by the eye but its body ability like susanoo.


Usual nardo fans BS, they overhype nardo beyond belief then cry nerf when sasuke is on par. KCM speed anyone?

Didnt refute anything lol. Naruto came into the fight with only 3 tsb. He also only had half kurama compared to sasukes boost of having 9 bijuu to take chakra from. Not much you can say tbh. Incomming offtopic response

 

[V h o]

But you know I was talking about natural energy anyway so im glad ^_^

Yeah just wanted to clarify, some were saying Kurama can go into sage mode (not sure if they were trolling or not).

 

[Awkward Linguist]

every post i see butthurt

 

[Vapid]

Once again this proves nothing since no one can fight on Naruto's level with kurama like he can, as evidenced by the fact that mito and kushina never had bm

A Naruto fan who's admitting that this is a 2v1 and that Naruto really isn't being nerfed, but rather Kurama is? Amazing.

Sure, Sage Mode is being nerfed to some degree, but that's about it. Everything else belongs to Kurama, and Sasuke inhibiting Naruto's biju buddy/ies in every way doesn't mean that Naruto himself is being nerfed.

This is simply the extent of Naruto's abilities when fighting fair-and-square.

 

[Sound]

Makes even less sense that Sasuke used all that chakra from the TB just to stalemate senjutsu.

It just means that Rikudou Naruto was far stronger than Rinnegan Sasuke w/o bijuu.

Tell me how kurama had SM before or that ashura avatar

That was Kurama using Naruto's abilities.

What's sad is that Naruto would have died twice in a single chapter if Kurama hadn't saved him both times.

Sasuke isn't fighting Naruto, he's fighting Kurama at this point.

Irrelevant to my post. But since you get so sensitive over this,
it goes both ways when bijuu chakra helped Sasuke fight Naruto in the first place.

 

[Vapid]

That was Kurama using Naruto's abilities.

Exactly. *smh*

Kurama is the one being nerfed, not Naruto (though Sage Mode is being restricted).

I'm glad you all are finally making a distinction between the two.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Didnt refute anything lol. Naruto came into the fight with only 3 tsb. He also only had half kurama compared to sasukes boost of having 9 bijuu to take chakra from. Not much you can say tbh. Incomming offtopic response

I can say a lot. TSBs, like what would those do when naruto has no skill with them?
Sasuke got bijuus but he's the one got nerfed here as it was scripted to be blown up in half chapter cuz he didnt become jin of the shit.

Naruto had boost of SM kurama, kurama wasnt SM user before and that ashura avatar.

 

[Apêx1]

You should take your own advice. That was at the end of the chapter. Before, Sasuke said it himself, he couldn't control his eye. He wouldn't have been able to absorb the Rasengan and the fight would have effectively ended there if Kishi didn't nerf Naruto.

Funny. That means you are no different then the previous person I responded to, or simply lack any common sense. Sasuke said he cannot control his eye because of his low chakra levels [

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[xxSAGExx]

Well, you have to realize that a good portion of Naruto's arsenal doesn't belong to him in the first place, but rather to Kurama.

By that Logic the same goes with Sasuke using Itachi's eyes and the Sage's chakra that gave him Rinnegan. Both use given power, get over it. Kurama as a powerup cost Naruto more drawbacks so of course the benefits of said power would be better than Itachi's eyes which only drawback was Itachi's death. Naruto got both his parents death plus a bunch of other things for Kurama's power.

 

[Mad Daz]

By that Logic the same goes with Sasuke using Itachi's eyes and the Sage's chakra that gave him Rinnegan. Both use given power, get over it. Kurama as a powerup cost Naruto more drawbacks so of course the benefits of said power would be better than Itachi's eyes which only drawback was Itachi's death. Naruto got both his parents death plus a bunch of other things for Kurama's power.

Dont bother, he just trying to troll, noone actually thinks that.

 

[V h o]

It just means that Rikudou Naruto was far stronger than Rinnegan Sasuke w/o bijuu.

It does seem that way. I'm still not buying the idea that a large amount of senjutsu equals roughly 9 chakra monsters.....

 

[Dannie]

I could write an entire essay on this shit. Naruto is not allowed to use his Sage skills like his super hax sensing or Frog Kata to knock his head into orb, his chakra reserves are being nerfed to high hell so much that he's just magically out of chakra at such a vital moment despite fighting for 3 days against gods and showing no sign of slowing down, and this is AFTER the Bijuu are placed inside him, his clones got one hit by shuriken despite having tanking feats that absolutely SHIT on that (not to mention he only made ****ing 4), but whatever.


There's not a single doubt that the fight would have ended right here had Naruto not tripped.

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Base Rasengan shits on Base Chidori, so Kishimoto had to have Naruto fall down with exhaustion. THIS IN AND OF ITSELF IS A NERF too becaue Naruto could have just thrown a little Lava in there, maybe some Boil Release, hell even Jiton Rasengan again, and the fight would be neg diffed right then and there.

But nope. They have to trade blows and Sasuke has to siphon even more chakra away because he hasn't already been gift wrapped enough presents. I like the brawling, but the logic of this fight is complete shit.

Summary: My favorite character didn't stomp Sasuke like I wanted him to so he was nerfed.

Lol