The amount that Naruto has been nerfed is just ridiculous

[Tennis Robot]

Having the 25th comment in a thread sucks

 

[Vapid]

It's honestly sad how much kishi had to drag Naruto down just so he could evenly fight with Sasuke. Soon as I seen him power up and he had only three orbs I was like yup, Naruto's gonna have to be neutered to fight Sasuke, tripping right before landing a finishing blow is also a bunch of crap, hopefully kishi can spruce things up because honestly this last fight is pretty pathetic, I hate how both susanoo and the Fox avatar seemingly were removed from plot just so this fight could contain crappy cqc moments. Never mind the fact that Naruto pretty much uses less than ten percent of his arsenal, tbh the last fight so far is a huge let down, the one from part 1 was better.

Well, you have to realize that a good portion of Naruto's arsenal doesn't belong to him in the first place, but rather to Kurama.

 

[Mr SwizZz]

It's honestly sad how much kishi had to drag Naruto down just so he could evenly fight with Sasuke. Soon as I seen him power up and he had only three orbs I was like yup, Naruto's gonna have to be neutered to fight Sasuke, tripping right before landing a finishing blow is also a bunch of crap, hopefully kishi can spruce things up because honestly this last fight is pretty pathetic, I hate how both susanoo and the Fox avatar seemingly were removed from plot just so this fight could contain crappy cqc moments. Never mind the fact that Naruto pretty much uses less than ten percent of his arsenal, tbh the last fight so far is a huge let down, the one from part 1 was better.

ikr, he is trying to make it hollywood for no reason

 

[Transcendence]

Someone needs to re-read last chapter.

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You should take your own advice. That was at the end of the chapter. Before, Sasuke said it himself, he couldn't control his eye. He wouldn't have been able to absorb the Rasengan and the fight would have effectively ended there if Kishi didn't nerf Naruto.

 

[AlphaScythian]

ikr, he is trying to make it hollywood for no reason

Naruto just havent trained his base skills since time skip always relying on enhancements of all kinds, so he's at hinata level

You should take your own advice. That was at the end of the chapter. Before, Sasuke said it himself, he couldn't control his eye. He wouldn't have been able to absorb the Rasengan and the fight would have effectively ended there if Kishi didn't nerf Naruto.

Madara had the same absorption w/o the eye, also since its a technique that absorbs chakra im not even sure it needs chakra in first place

 

[Retsu]

Well, you have to realize that a good portion of Naruto's arsenal doesn't belong to him in the first place, but rather to Kurama.

This does not pertain to the discussion at all

 

[Vapid]

This does not pertain to the discussion at all

It does. You all are saying that Naruto's the one being nerfed, yet listing techniques and abilities derived from Kurama.

 

[Sound]

What's sad is that even after one power-up more than Naruto, Sasuke can only stalemate.​

 

[Mr SwizZz]

Juugo power is just as senjutsu as SM of naruto.

Even that hagoromos senjutsu was joke to madara and Obito. Sasuke being on same skill level as hagoromo and controlling whole juubi chakra making a humanoid of it is good enough to handle some pathetic senjutsu rasengan.

The fact that Sasuke developed wings and transformed like a pokemon after activating his "Senjutsu" clearly shows he is not as proficient as Naruto.
And also, Juugo also transforms, Jiraiya also transforms partially.
Naruto does not, he can handle it like a boss.

And the others did not get senjutsu directly from Hagoromo, rather just a gathering of 7 bijuu's chakra and small part of 8/9.
After Naruto came back to life with Hagoromo's senjutsu, Madara was his *****. He absorbed the tree and he came close to having as strong senjutsu as naruto/hagoromo.
And again, some curse mark cannot be compared with senjutsu yang power coming directly from a god.

Sasuke cannot stabilize Naruto's sage chakra properly, especially in his current weakened state, period.

 

[Awkward Linguist]

It does. You all are saying that Naruto's the one being nerfed, yet listing techniques and abilities derived from Kurama.

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[Retsu]

It does. You all are saying that Naruto's the one being nerfed, yet listing techniques derived from Kurama.

That literally means nothing in the current convo, and seeing as Kushina or mito were no where near Naruto's level as a jin, it's obvious that having the kyuubi does not automatically make you top 10. Only Naruto can do what he does with kurama, no one else can, and it's pointless to bring up borrowed power.

 

[V h o]

What's sad is that even after one power-up more than Naruto, Sasuke can only stalemate.​

Makes even less sense that Sasuke used all that chakra from the TB just to stalemate senjutsu.

 

[AlphaScythian]

What's sad is that even after one power-up more than Naruto, Sasuke can only stalemate.​

Tell me how kurama had SM before or that ashura avatar

The fact that Sasuke developed wings and transformed like a pokemon after activating his "Senjutsu" clearly shows he is not as proficient as Naruto.
And also, Juugo also transforms, Jiraiya also transforms partially.
Naruto does not, he can handle it like a boss.

And the others did not get senjutsu directly from Hagoromo, rather just a gathering of 7 bijuu's chakra and small part of 8/9.
After Naruto came back to life with Hagoromo's senjutsu, Madara was his *****. He absorbed the tree and he came close to having as strong senjutsu as naruto/hagoromo.
And again, some curse mark cannot be compared with senjutsu yang power coming directly from a god.

Sasuke cannot stabilize Naruto's sage chakra properly, especially in his current weakened state, period.

Excuses, as SMs are different so are appearances. DMS kabuto has horns too so what?
Minato while having seemingly perfect SM said he sux with it and madara was even dissapointed in SM of hashirama.

Its nothing for sasuke. Stop grasping.

 

[Vapid]

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Silly little fodder.

Still no counter? Lol

Keep 'em comin'.

 

[Mr SwizZz]

Tell me how kurama had SM before or that ashura avatar

Kurama could gather sage mode since Naruto was fighting the Juubi, thats not a new powerup.
After the kaguya fight ended Sasuke got the bijuu's chakra for himself, while naruto didnt get new powerups.

 

[The Necromancer]

What's sad is that even after one power-up more than Naruto, Sasuke can only stalemate.​

What's sad is that Naruto would have died twice in a single chapter if Kurama hadn't saved him both times.

Sasuke isn't fighting Naruto, he's fighting Kurama at this point.

 

[Transcendence]

Naruto just havent trained his base skills since time skip always relying on enhancements of all kinds, so he's at hinata level


Madara had the same absorption w/o the eye, also since its a technique that absorbs chakra im not even sure it needs chakra in first place

That was an innate ability that Madara (and Kaguya) possess. They could absorb chakra, but not Ninjutsu, which is what Rasengan is. (Madara didn't absorb Amaterasu, he removed his armour). Sasuke wouldn't be able to absorb the Rasengan without control over his Sharin'negan to utilize Preta Path.

 

[Mad Daz]

Agreed, the only people thinking naruto wasnt brought down to sasukes level for this fight are sasukebase members, just look read the thread lol.

Naruto has half of kurama while sasuke had all 9 bijuu helping him and he still threw it.

 

[Transcendence]

What's sad is that Naruto would have died twice in a single chapter if Kurama hadn't saved both times.

Sasuke isn't fighting Naruto, he's fighting Kurama at this point.

Man I love that argument so much. Have you people not read the manga? Kurama is not an excuse for Naruto's power. IT IS NARUTO'S POWER. Once you come to terms with that, you'll finally be at peace with how stupid your statement (not you) sounds.

 

[KidGamer65]

Children need to learn what the term "nerf" means before making dumb threads.

I could write an entire essay on this shit. Naruto is not allowed to use his Sage skills like his super hax sensing or Frog Kata to knock his head into orb,

Naruto is fighting at the level of PS using his Kurama Avatar, yet you think him not using weak shit (in comparison) like Frog Kata is a nerf? Lol. My sides. Not to mention sensing is always on for Sage Mode users.

his chakra reserves are being nerfed to high hell so much that he's just magically out of chakra at such a vital moment despite fighting for 3 days against gods and showing no sign of slowing down, and this is AFTER the Bijuu are placed inside him, his clones got one hit by shuriken despite having tanking feats that absolutely SHIT on that (not to mention he only made ****ing 4), but whatever.

Lol. Naruto's chakra reserves haven't been nerfed at all, the energy he took in is what went towards his final attack, add that to the fact he sustained injuries from the explosion, he's supposed to be in this condition.

Lol. Weakened Naruto clones didn't tank shurikens thrown by Sasuke. Base Naruto clones have no tanking feats that let him tank Shuriken when weakened.

There's not a single doubt that the fight would have ended right here had Naruto not tripped.

Even though Sasuke has Preta Path amirite?

Base Rasengan shits on Base Chidori, so Kishimoto had to have Naruto fall down with exhaustion. THIS IN AND OF ITSELF IS A NERF too becaue Naruto could have just thrown a little Lava in there, maybe some Boil Release, hell even Jiton Rasengan again, and the fight would be neg diffed right then and there.

Preta Path absorbs Rasengan, nor does Base Rasengan EVER shit on Chidori as the manga has clearly shown us.

Naruto didn't do those things cause he doesn't have the chakra to do them, that simple.

But nope. They have to trade blows and Sasuke has to siphon even more chakra away because he hasn't already been gift wrapped enough presents. I like the brawling, but the logic of this fight is complete shit.

The only things that are complete shit is your thread, and the rest of the tards making excuses for why Naruto didn't stomp Sasuke like they wanted him to.