[Discussion] The 5 Panels that Ruined the Naruto Manga Franchise

[Angelic.]

Re-read "In Hell" which came out the week after Kishi's dad died, and tell me again that his depression hasn't affected the manga. I know the guy, so I know what I'm talking about here OK.

kishis dad died recently. around the time naruto was being saved. when minato failed and bz trolled

 

[Sir Michael]

kishis dad died recently. around the time naruto was being saved. when minato failed and bz trolled

He died around 662, so the OP is spouting bullshit now.

 

[narutoblitz]

Doesn't change the fact I'm right. Most on NB won't admit it but the writing quality has gone down severely in the last year.

 

[ssjelf]

Doesn't change the fact I'm right. Most on NB won't admit it but the writing quality has gone down severely in the last year.

No it really hasn't. People say this crap all the time about many parts of the manga. I have been reading the manga for a little over a year and it really hasn't changed.

 

[narutoblitz]

No it really hasn't. People say this crap all the time about many parts of the manga. I have been reading the manga for a little over a year and it really hasn't changed.

Um that sorta proves my point -_-

 

[King Kendrick]

Doesn't change the fact I'm right. Most on NB won't admit it but the writing quality has gone down severely in the last year.

We cant argue your opinion cause its yours but we were arguing your bs reasoning . imo the writing has been fine

 

[narutoblitz]

Look his Dad died and that's sad and whatever. But the manga's writing is slipping, that's the real issue here. I mean it's manga, not just some guy's selfish personal life.

 

[GamakichiTheUsurper]

I'm just saying the writing stopped making sense a long time ago.

Or maybe you have stopped understanding it. You may not like the decisions, but most (not all) of them make sense.

 

[King Kendrick]

Look his Dad died and that's sad and whatever. But the manga's writing is slipping, that's the real issue here. I mean it's manga, not just some guy's selfish personal life.

Your stupidity is mind boggling if only you broadened your outlook on life you would realize hes not ruing the manga for his selfish ways . Maybe your mad at the ways things are going but you dont have to make a thread thrashing on the author claiming he ruined the manga because his father died an he let his personal life get the better of his writing skills , You jerk .

 

[SkyGodHorus]

Kishimoto's personal depression.

lols.

I'm sorry, but what the freaking heck is that man. This is just... god awful writing.

You possess no concept of writing. And you wouldn't be able to write a better story to save your life.

 

[ssjelf]

Um that sorta proves my point -_-

No it doesn't. You are saying it has declined over the last year and I am telling you that I have noticed no difference in this last year. I have been reading it for a little over a year and I am telling you there had not been a change in writing style or quality. If what you are saying was true, then with my experience with the manga I should be able to tell the difference from when i started reading up until now. I can't tell the difference. I saw Obito coming from a mile away. I saw Rin coming from mile away. Those two points are invalid. the reasoning and logic of those scans is also fine. Sure kaguya may have been a recent idea of his, but honestly it makes sense. Wheter or not you like it is up to you, but don't tell me that his "depression" is making the manga worse.

 

[Itachi Edo]

Sasuke I'll give you, but the Madara and Black Zetsu parts are too early to pass judgement on them just yet. Those plot twists were ust revealed and it's a mistake to judge a manga on a chapter by chapter basis. Wait until a full volume has passed.

I liked Obito, because I'm one of the ones who thought it was him. I'll admit his reasons for Rin are a bit childish, but when you look at it from a broader scope it's no different than Sasuke wanting to become Hokage to avenge Itachi's death. Both died vicitms to a corrupt system and both Sasuke and Obito went to extremes to change that system, ie war and a wanted criminal wanting to become a Gokage.

 

[Itachi Edo]

Sasuke I'll give you, but the Madara and Black Zetsu parts are too early to pass judgement on them just yet. Those plot twists were ust revealed and it's a mistake to judge a manga on a chapter by chapter basis. Wait until a full volume has passed.

I liked Obito, because I'm one of the ones who thought it was him. I'll admit his reasons for Rin are a bit childish, but when you look at it from a broader scope it's no different than Sasuke wanting to become Hokage to avenge Itachi's death. Both died victims to a corrupt system and both Sasuke and Obito went to extremes to change that system, ie war and a wanted criminal wanting to become a Gokage.

 

[saw2097]

Didn't you already quit the manga, you keep saying it but it keeps not happening.

 

[Bling Kai]

And this is why for me personally Naruto is no longer tied with dbz as my favorite anime/manga. DBZ IS MUCH BETTER AS OF NOW

 

[ThousandLegs]

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[sLm]

Agree with the first one xD. It should have been Naruto the one changing Sasuke. Itachi himself foresaid it, but it never happened.

 

[DannySenju]

All signs turned to Obito when Kakashi said their eyes were the same. Sasuke wanted to speak to the hokages to make his final decision. I'm lost at the Black Zetsu.

 

[ekichi onizuka]

you're the one that is full of BS you say you quit the manga but read it every week lol and not to mention that your thread don't make any sense my 7 year old sister can do better .i'm sorry but it's the truth no offense.

Are you bipolar ?

 

[apsri]

I think that doing everything in your power to bring back your mother is a bit more justifiable than Obito's. I mean, I can get that sort of connection a bit better.

Obito's is just complete shit. Hell, he knew the truth behind Rin's death (well, not the Madara manipulation bit). She clearly did what she did for the sake of the village and her friends. Solution? Destroy the village and kill her friends. Yes, Obito, Rin would be so proud.

Not to mention that he was only like 13. Isn't that a bit early for true love and righteous vengeance? I would have bought this more if he made a slow descent into psychopathy, but he didn't. One moment to another, the guy who refused to even consider making a sacrifice for the "greater good" decided that mass murdering was acceptable.

Sasuke changing his mind... Eh, I'm on the fence. I reckon that if Kishi said that he's confused, and because of that he will fight alongside Naruto, so that he can sort himself out later, after the war, that would be believable. His respect for Itachi makes sense, and was well characterised. Him not wanting Infinite Tsukuyomi also makes sense. So this course of action would make sense:

"Hashirama, I don't know what to think, but I know that unless I help out, I won't be able to make a decision as to my position, so I'll help the Shinobi Alliance."