Technically Kurama Isn't The Strongest Tailed Beast!

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technically u are a lol!!!
i didint read others reply.so if my words are repetetive sorrey.
any way! 4th cut kuramas chakra for a short time!!! read the manga again. and also look at the way naruto fights and the way hachibi and bee are fighting, which one is more powerfull!!! hachibi said the number of tail doesnot difine the rank of a beast,he didnt said kurama is not the strongest
 

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For those who CBB to read - Read the Bold

Now as we all know, realistically the true strength of a tailed beast and his Jinchuuriki is not determined by the actual strength of the tailed beast, it is a combination of both of their abilities and their choice to work together that allows them to become powerful.

This removes the factor of the current fight during the war - as all tailed beasts (At least up until Edo was Released) have a Jinchuuriki to work with.

Now that is clarified we can begin to talk about the chakra available to the tailed beasts and what they really are.
I recently read a thread by @Blaze Release Wherein he determines that the tailed beasts are merely forms of spiritual energy - and do not have a physical body.

After understanding this theory, it is important to acknowledge that generally, the power of each tailed beast BY THEMSELVES (With no Jinchuuriki) is determined by the amount of tails each beast has.
This is further supported by the 8 Tails comment about the 9 tails - that the power of a Tailed beast is not determined only by the amount of tails but by the ability to work with their host. This informs us that Kurama is not working with his host at the time - he is weaker than other tailed beasts that do.
Therefore Kurama's Arrogance causes him to be weak (Alone)

In addition, the most important factor to acknowledge about Kurama's power is that his power was cut in half.
During the battle with the 4th Hokage (Minato), the 4th uses the Reaper Death Seal to seal half of the 9 Tails Chakra - evidently causing him to become halved in size.
The other half of this chakra was then sealed within Naruto - and remained with him for the rest of his life.

Now, to my knowledge, the other tailed beasts did not have any of their chakra sealed or removed from existence through being sealed - only the 9 tails lost any of his original chakra - which was sealed - halving him in size.

Therefore the chakra of the 9 tails has been halved whilst the other beast's chakra has not.
The question is up to whether or not you personally believe that the chakra of the 9 tails would be recreated in existence - (similar to what would happen if the tailed beast died with its host.)

The difference between a death and a seal, is that when the chakra is sealed - it becomes unavailable to the world - just as sealed souls are no longer available to be used in an Edo Tensei.

Therefore it is plausible to substantiate an argument that states that only half of Kurama's actual chakra is sealed - and therefore - available to Naruto, making Kurama, by himself, NOT THE STRONGEST in chakra either.

To my understanding the list might look (based on chakra) a little like this.

1, 2, 3, 4, (9), 5, 6, 7, 8
----------- 4.5------------


What do you think, and do you believe that Kurama regains his chakra over time / his being is regenerated as his chakra 'died' in the RDS?

edit: Everyone is comparing Kurama's TBB to the other tailed beasts, but has anyone thought that the other beasts werent using their full power because Tobi couldn't control all of the beasts normally anyway? It would make sense to think that if he cant control them in full beast mode then he wouldn't allow them to use overpowered TBB that he cant fully control.
Kurama regenerates.... we have seen that Ginkaku and Kinkaku only got a little piece of Kyubi's meat but we saw one of them using 5 tailed form. Now if a little part of Kurama's body can be converted into a five tailed beast I think Half of it can regenerate itself back to normal!
 
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It depends on how the power of a tail is determined...

One theory is that each tail is worth double the previous tails... So the 2 tails has double the strength of the 1tail, the three tails having double the strength of the 2tails and so on...

Going on this theory, even if kuramas chakra was halved, he is still just as powerful as the 8tails...

This theory would also explain why kurama was able to take on 5 tailed beats...

If we give the first tail a numerical value, say for example 10, then the 1tail is worth 10, 2tails -20, 3tails - 40, 4tails - 80, 5tails 160, 6tails- 320, 7tails-720. The 8tails would be worth 1440 which is more than the sum of all the other tailed beasts, kurama having the same power as 8tails would therefore be able to take them on himself..
 
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Its already been stated that he regains his chakra, i personally beleive that each tail = 1 measurement

1tail - 1 unit of measurement.
 

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Ok. The 3rd used the Reaper Deal Seal on Orochimaru, and took his arms away from him to where he could not use them whatsoever. But throughout the Manga we saw him regain his ability to move his arms. Kurama gains his chakra back, it just takes a long time for it to come back.
Orochimaru didn't "regain his ability to move his arms". He lived in anguish until he couldn't tolerate it any longer then did his body transfer. Remember? Sasuke shows up and some dude with short blonde hair and Oro's eyes and voice scold him for being out past curfew. RDS=BUH-BYE. :sy:
 

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So if the theory is Kurama is half the size he use to be with half his chakra sealed away. That mean evey time a tailed beast uses a tbb they shrink inproportion to the amount of chakra used? I'm sure they don't instantly regain what they lost.
 

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So if the theory is Kurama is half the size he use to be with half his chakra sealed away. That mean evey time a tailed beast uses a tbb they shrink inproportion to the amount of chakra used? I'm sure they don't instantly regain what they lost.
There is a difference between using chakra and having it sealed, what is wrong with you guys, do you not read the manga?

Oh not to mention, Kurama was stronger before meeting
the 4th. The creator the this thread should have added
that into the title LolFail xD
well if people read the OP then i wouldnt need to.
 

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Kurama regenerates.... we have seen that Ginkaku and Kinkaku only got a little piece of Kyubi's meat but we saw one of them using 5 tailed form. Now if a little part of Kurama's body can be converted into a five tailed beast I think Half of it can regenerate itself back to normal!
Makes perfect sens to me. So I just wonder if Naruto ever get his hands on those jars that he will be able to suck out their(Ginkaku & Kinkaku) chakra that he can get a little bit of Yin Chakra and grow off of that in an instant. Probably to bring a different form but definitely some new power with his already great power doubled. Yea ass whoopin.!!!!
 

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We know nine tails is the most powerful because tobi said they had to collect the nine tails last or he would destroy the other tailed beast in the statue, and even the eight tails who said "The amount of tails doesn't matter" immediately after sees kuramas tbb says " dAmn that nine tails is powerful.
 

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We know nine tails is the most powerful because tobi said they had to collect the nine tails last or he would destroy the other tailed beast in the statue, and even the eight tails who said "The amount of tails doesn't matter" immediately after sees kuramas tbb says " dAmn that nine tails is powerful.
You hit it right on the head.. You got it.. Nine Tails is a beast and no one can stop him but Naruto(seal). ;);););););););)
 
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