Team Whitebeard comprises Whitebeard, commander Marco, Diamond Jozu, all the current straw hats, Law, and Sabo. Whitebeard is fully rested and in better health.
The 3 Admirals are obviously Akainu, Aokoji, and Kizaru.
Who wins?
If team Admirals win how will adding Inaurashi to team Whitebeard change the outcome?
Team WB high diff. Add inurashi and it's even easier.
Also I don't know why "whitebeard solos" is even an option when even prime whitbeard would lose to the three admirals together. There is no character in one piece who can solo all of them together in fact.
Team WB high diff. Add inurashi and it's even easier.
Also I don't know why "whitebeard solos" is even an option when even prime whitbeard would lose to the three admirals together. There is no character in one piece who can solo all of them together in fact.
Group fights, especially one this large, can go any which way. This isn't gonna be a series of 1 vs 1 fights, it's gonna be a free-for-all mess of slugfests. There's no telling how this would go. There are already tons of variables to consider with 2 vs 2 fights, and you wanna throw like a dozen people on one side?
Adding Law to the mix in team 1 is a big game changer All the strawhats except for Luffy maybe don't bring much to the table.
Law's devil fruit can set-up a lot of damaging attacks for the high tiers like how he assisted Luffy in the Doflamingo fight. But if you replace Luffy with an angry whitebeard it makes quite the difference. Also he can throw the attacks of the enemies of by swapping them out with random objects.
I think Team 1 can take this pretty easy if they manage to keep law safe and use his room to gain an advantage over the admirals.
Group fights, especially one this large, can go any which way. This isn't gonna be a series of 1 vs 1 fights, it's gonna be a free-for-all mess of slugfests. There's no telling how this would go. There are already tons of variables to consider with 2 vs 2 fights, and you wanna throw like a dozen people on one side?
Also, you really think huge area, so OP is enough to win a fight? Team 1's victory is most likely to be decided by sheer number, not cuz of WB being OP.
Also, you really think huge area, so OP is enough to win a fight? Team 1's victory is most likely to be decided by sheer number, not cuz of WB being OP.
Healthy WB beats any Admiral on the lower end of high-dif, Sabo and Marco beat any other Admiral med-dif, while the last Admiral goes down med-dif as well.
What you on about he would be stronger overall...in stamina in resistancy to attacks everything.
I don't know if you are trolling,being ignorant or both now.
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And I fail to see how WB lost 2 times unless I forgot it...
You are acting like WB was a nobody LMAO! It's a fact that Gura Gura does OP dmg on area...Admirals would need to look after other members in team and Gura Gura at the same time.
WB nearly killed Akainu,only plot saved Akainu after that ground ***** slap...
Admirals have more fire power. Aokiji should be able to deal with Marco/Jozu (as in hold them off). While Akainu holds off Whitebeard. Then Kizaru finishes off the SH and Law.. Kizaru then helps out Aokiji and they both finish off Marco/Jozu.. then 3 vs 1 Whitebeard.. GG
None of the admirals are dieing here.
^^^^^^ In this scenario all the admirals are full on serious as to their fight. So not a kizaru who is chilling while attacking or a calm/chill aokiji. Full power going at it.
Though i wonder ifAokiji can finish off Marco and Jozu. Would be interesting. Plus, that elemental gang up trololololololo.
His attack potency was NEVER stated to be weakened by his health. People made comments on his reflexes and stamina being affected, but no one ever made note that his DF was any weaker. In fact, comments from Sengoku and O-Tsuru-chan show his DF potency, his main potency, was a strong as ever.
I don't know if you are trolling,being ignorant or both now.
Yeah, WB didn't make a mockery of Marineford. Him shaking the oceans was damn awesome, but the overall damage to MF did not come from just WB, it came from the combined battle of an ENTIRE WAR. Even then, Aokiji's office, which was in the main building at the front of MF, wasn't touched whatsoever. Many of MF's buildings were unfazed. WB TRIED to sink the entire island, but didn't have the stamina to do so.
And I fail to see how WB lost 2 times unless I forgot it...
You are acting like WB was a nobody LMAO! It's a fact that Gura Gura does OP dmg on area...Admirals would need to look after other members in team and Gura Gura at the same time.
No I'm not, I'm just not overrating him. Does his DF have a massive area of effect and scale? Yes. But that isn't enough to win and turn the tides of battle. Does it help? Of course. But that doesn't guarantee victory. If that was the case, the WB pirates wouldn't have lost the war.
WB nearly killed Akainu,only plot saved Akainu after that ground ***** slap...
Yes, WB lost twice to Akainu. The first time was when Akainu and WB mused about not destroying MF. WB and Akainu were clashing evenly. Akainu launched an attack, WB deflected, WB launched an attack, Akainu deflected. Then WB got a heart attack, and Akainu plunged his fist into his chest(plot point, Akainu could have plunged his fist into his face or plunge it through one of his legs). That was an L to WB, especially considering Akainu stepped back for whatever reason to let fodder stab and attack WB. Akainu himself could have performed follow-up attacks instead, dealing MUCH more damage.
The second was when WB jumped Akainu. The anime plays it out to be WB standing behind Akainu tall and fearsome, then delivering a slow blow as Akainu stood frozen. In the manga, the canon, WB's fist was already plummeting towards Akainu as someone yelled "Look out!" People constantly say that WB spanked and clowned Akainu for successfully damaging him via jumping. By this logic, Caesar clowned Luffy for sneaking him by removing oxygen and capturing him. Or that Law and Luffy stomped Doflamingo with the Red Hawk-Shambles maneuver. Or that the Yeti Cool Brothers stomped Zoro, Sanji, and Brook by sneak attacking them with bombs that put them to sleep.
Even then, logically, WB took an L from that encounter. WB and Akainu both laid major blows to one another, with WB destroying the ground. Akainu would have won that second encounter if WB hadn't destroyed the ground, WB literally saved himself by doing so. After that encounter, WB was killed by a group consisting of mostly rookies using basic attacks. Akainu, on the other hand, clashed with dozens of experienced, seasoned New World pirates, including all but two of WB's commanders, and took no damage whatsoever.
To say that Akainu would have lost to WB in that second encounter is to say that Teach, after being damaged by Whitebeard, and his rookies, are superior to Akainu, as they did what Akainu would be unable to do with this assertion, i.e., kill Whitebeard. That would also be to say that 10 pirates, four of whom are rookies, one of whom is injured, and one of whom is a sick donkey, are superior to dozens of WB's underlings and allies, as they failed to further injure Akainu who, under the aforementioned assertion, is inferior to these pirates. Which makes no sense.
Akainu left the second encounter in a much better state than Whitebeard did. That means Akainu left with a 1-up over WB.
Yes, WB lost twice to Akainu. The first time was when Akainu and WB mused about not destroying MF. WB and Akainu were clashing evenly. Akainu launched an attack, WB deflected, WB launched an attack, Akainu deflected. Then WB got a heart attack, and Akainu plunged his fist into his chest(plot point, Akainu could have plunged his fist into his face or plunge it through one of his legs). That was an L to WB, especially considering Akainu stepped back for whatever reason to let fodder stab and attack WB. Akainu himself could have performed follow-up attacks instead, dealing MUCH more damage.
Ok let;s get this out of the way, the heart attack give you a moment to strike, when the heart attack comes it doesn't last for long. So no, Akainu wouldn't be chaining attack together, he has that one chance and he took it.
The second was when WB jumped Akainu. The anime plays it out to be WB standing behind Akainu tall and fearsome, then delivering a slow blow as Akainu stood frozen. In the manga, the canon, WB's fist was already plummeting towards Akainu as someone yelled "Look out!" People constantly say that WB spanked and clowned Akainu for successfully damaging him via jumping. By this logic, Caesar clowned Luffy for sneaking him by removing oxygen and capturing him. Or that Law and Luffy stomped Doflamingo with the Red Hawk-Shambles maneuver. Or that the Yeti Cool Brothers stomped Zoro, Sanji, and Brook by sneak attacking them with bombs that put them to sleep.
This paragraph is you trying to damage control the W WB got against Akainu, I honestly don't care about all the example because the guys got the W in all of them. Caesar beat Luffy, the Yeti cool brothers beat Zoro, Sanji and Brook, while Luffy and Law got the hit on DD. This is you trying to damage control the loss Akainu took, simple as that,
Even then, logically, WB took an L from that encounter. WB and Akainu both laid major blows to one another, with WB destroying the ground. Akainu would have won that second encounter if WB hadn't destroyed the ground, WB literally saved himself by doing so. After that encounter, WB was killed by a group consisting of mostly rookies using basic attacks. Akainu, on the other hand, clashed with dozens of experienced, seasoned New World pirates, including all but two of WB's commanders, and took no damage whatsoever.
No he didn't, WB landed 2 major blows on Akainu while Akainu got one. While I'm not interested in who could of won if the fight went on, I am interested in who DID win that skirmish, and that winner was WB. The fact you're saying Akainu could of won means that WB did win in that scenario that played out. I could sit here and argue who could of won all day but the point it that in the skirmish that did happen WB won.
To say that Akainu would have lost to WB in that second encounter is to say that Teach, after being damaged by Whitebeard, and his rookies, are superior to Akainu, as they did what Akainu would be unable to do with this assertion, i.e., kill Whitebeard. That would also be to say that 10 pirates, four of whom are rookies, one of whom is injured, and one of whom is a sick donkey, are superior to dozens of WB's underlings and allies, as they failed to further injure Akainu who, under the aforementioned assertion, is inferior to these pirates. Which makes no sense.
How many times do I have to say this, Akainu fought against the commander who couldn't even hit him. Most if not all the commander who fought Akainu bar Marco and Vista had shown haki, and at that point their will was low enough to the point where they couldn't even hurt Akainu with a free blow. Akainu with help was fighting guys who couldn't even harm him. As for Teach and co, that honestly irrelevant, WB in his fight with Akainu the momentum going in his favor once he landed that hit not to mention he was beating Teach before getting shot. WB probably would of only needed one or two more hits to put down Akainu which he could of gotten before going down.
Akainu left the second encounter in a much better state than Whitebeard did. That means Akainu left with a 1-up over WB.
Ok let;s get this out of the way, the heart attack give you a moment to strike, when the heart attack comes it doesn't last for long. So no, Akainu wouldn't be chaining attack together, he has that one chance and he took it.
So you think fodder could accomplish what Akainu couldn't? Since you're basically saying Akainu wouldn't have been able to hit WB again while the fodder could.
This paragraph is you trying to damage control the W WB got against Akainu, I honestly don't care about all the example because the guys got the W in all of them. Caesar beat Luffy, the Yeti cool brothers beat Zoro, Sanji and Brook, while Luffy and Law got the hit on DD. This is you trying to damage control the loss Akainu took, simple as that,
Those aren't legitimate Ws though. If that was the case, I could say Yeti Cool Bros are better than Zoro, since people using WB jumping Akainu as end-all-be-all proof that WB is better than Akainu.
No he didn't, WB landed 2 major blows on Akainu while Akainu got one. While I'm not interested in who could of won if the fight went on, I am interested in who DID win that skirmish, and that winner was WB. The fact you're saying Akainu could of won means that WB did win in that scenario that played out. I could sit here and argue who could of won all day but the point it that in the skirmish that did happen WB won.
Yes but that first major blew isn't legitimate due to it being from a jump. Akainu has matched and deflected blows from WB prior to that, so it is not farfetched to say that had it not been a jump, WB's first major blow would not have gone through as it did. And no, at best for WB it was a tie. The reason I chock that up as a L to WB is because he left in worst condition than Akainu did.
How many times do I have to say this, Akainu fought against the commander who couldn't even hit him. Most if not all the commander who fought Akainu bar Marco and Vista had shown haki, and at that point their will was low enough to the point where they couldn't even hurt Akainu with a free blow. Akainu with help was fighting guys who couldn't even harm him. As for Teach and co, that honestly irrelevant, WB in his fight with Akainu the momentum going in his favor once he landed that hit not to mention he was beating Teach before getting shot. WB probably would of only needed one or two more hits to put down Akainu which he could of gotten before going down.
It doesn't matter why they failed to hurt Akainu, the fact of the matter is they failed to do so period and there's no doubt they were superior as a group to the group that killed WB. The bolded is complete speculation, especially since by that point, their wills were reinvigorated because they found a new goal that was just as important as freeing Ace: Protecting Luffy, the living remnant of Ace's will. So while their spirits were dropped by the deaths of their two nakama, the will to protect Luffy substituted in and sparked their fire again. Even if that were true, it wouldn't be applicable to this scenario.
And no, they're not irrelevant. WB was murdered by them, that by default means that if Akainu was too weak to have been able to kill WB if the ground hadn't broken away, then he was weaker than Teach and his group of rookie cronies.
