Tailed beast sage mode is equal to EMS?

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True kcm is fasterbut so was Ay. That speed means nothing if you can't touch your opponent. Just like Ay naruto would lose an arm trying to blitz a susano ribcage clad in enton. Not only won't naruto get through but get caught by enton as well.

Also even rsm naruto can't blitz all the time, we all know that shit is random.

lol. i remember just like yesterday, Naruto blitz Kaguya, everybody assumed Naruto is faster than anyone and can beat anyone all because he blitzed Kaguya out of nowhere..
 

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So? That EMS Sasuke who is a tier above MS Sasuke



Fail he still only used his sword vs sm madara and sword or weapon skill is the same so fail excuse.

A completely blind no sm madara blitzed sm naruto and sai.

Thats a bad ass feat for a base madara who can't see.
 

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True kcm is fasterbut so was Ay. That speed means nothing if you can't touch your opponent. Just like Ay naruto would lose an arm trying to blitz a susano ribcage clad in enton. Not only won't naruto get through but get caught by enton as well.

Also even rsm naruto can't blitz all the time, we all know that shit is random.

Naruto can just use chakra arms, we have already seen version 1 naruto's chakra cloak being resistant to amaterasu. His chakra arms in KCM won't be burnt at all by such a weak attack.

All naruto has to use is COFRS and it's game over.
 

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lol. i remember just like yesterday, Naruto blitz Kaguya, everybody assumed Naruto is faster than anyone and can beat anyone all because he blitzed Kaguya out of nowhere..

Assumptions. RSM Naruto did not even try to blitz Sasuke during their fight. That would have been hilarious, considering no one in canon has react to his speed.
 

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True kcm is fasterbut so was Ay. That speed means nothing if you can't touch your opponent. Just like Ay naruto would lose an arm trying to blitz a susano ribcage clad in enton. Not only won't naruto get through but get caught by enton as well.

Also even rsm naruto can't blitz all the time, we all know that shit is random.

I already said, ay is strictly a close ranged fighter, plus hot-headed. He not only saw sasuke shroud his ribcage in ama but he went for the chop anyways.

Naruto isn't restricted to close range, & he can use clones as a diversion, plus he'd never sacrifice his own arm to land an attack when he has chakra arms. In order to match KCM naruto sasuke needs a defense that can withstand a FRS [let alone multiple], & his complete susanoo is the only one that can possibly do that.
 

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Retards list naruto admitted he need kcm to match 3 tomeo sasuke so in order it's rational. If you can't understand rational then you need to join the challenged list.
LMAO! Naruto never said that he needed KCM to beat Sasuke, let alone saying 3-Tomoe Sasuke. Not only this, Base Naruto explicitly kept up with 3-Tomoe Sasuke in VOTE2. Then there's the fact that you just post up BM Naruto=MS Uchiha and KCM Naruto=3-Tomoe Uchiha.

You're going to have to try over 100 times harder than man.
 

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EMS Sasuke with PS = BSM Naruto.
 

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I already said, ay is strictly a close ranged fighter, plus hot-headed. He not only saw sasuke shroud his ribcage in ama but he went for the chop anyways.

Naruto isn't restricted to close range, & he can use clones as a diversion, plus he'd never sacrifice his own arm to land an attack when he has chakra arms. In order to match KCM naruto sasuke needs a defense that can withstand a FRS [let alone multiple], & his complete susanoo is the only one tha can possibly do that.


Wrong again

Kcm naruto is can be solo'd by genjutsu, kcm naruto isn't a perfect jin only bm naruto was so kcm loses to genjutsu.

Also naruto at that time didn't know shit about amaterasu or susano he wouldn't know to avoid enton clad ribcage and that's only if sasuke doesn't end it with genjutsu. Also using chakra arms to strike directly means the chakra arms get caught in enton and that means naruto has to shed his chakra arms thus shedding his chakra to some degree.

Also ms sasuke's no leg susano can take frs easily and can shoot enton arrows and enton megatama.

Also ms sasuke isn't slow he's pretty fast he won't get caught by a long range jutsu that he can see coming. Also he has a bird summon to avoid frs..

Assuming his ms legless susano isn't enough is just a factless opinion. Just the susano skeleton tanked gaara's jutsu, darui, temari and kankuro combined jutsus with neg diff

And this is all ifsasuke doesn't end it with genjutsu or suppress the kyuubi chakra thus reverting naruto back to base.
 

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LMAO! Naruto never said that he needed KCM to beat Sasuke, let alone saying 3-Tomoe Sasuke. Not only this, Base Naruto explicitly kept up with 3-Tomoe Sasuke in VOTE2. Then there's the fact that you just post up BM Naruto=MS Uchiha and KCM Naruto=3-Tomoe Uchiha.

You're going to have to try over 100 times harder than man.
Sasuke has no sharingan on here and they still stalemated.
And i think he's talking about this. scan about Naruto needing kurama.

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Naruto can just use chakra arms, we have already seen version 1 naruto's chakra cloak being resistant to amaterasu. His chakra arms in KCM won't be burnt at all by such a weak attack.

All naruto has to use is COFRS and it's game over.


This would be all true if amaterasu = enton

Ms itachi used Amaterasu ms sasuke uses enton....big difference

Amaterasu Burns

Enton burns through things due to shape manipulation it can cut or pierce.


Also kcm naruto isn't a perfect jin so he loses to genjutsu at the start of the fight and or kyuubi chakra suppression.

We know naruto talks first in every fight that's when he gets solo'd

Solo'd

Enton burns and cuts
 
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Hell no dsm kabuto wrecks kcm naruto...kcm naruto can't touch dsm kabuto because of sm sensing and reflexes. Also naruto can't avoid white rage or sound genjutsu and kabuto can liquefy to avoid being hit or use instant healing.

That's just as bad as kcm naruto vs nagato in which naruto got wrecked.

You didn't pay attention to my post at all did you?
 

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If I made a mistake then that's my bad

It look like you said

Cave kabuto who is dsm kabuto<kcm naruto and that would be absurd if that's what you meant.


It's not absurd by any means, especially if it's a KCM Naruto that has a TBB mastery, but you must have skimmed over my post as I was saying that KCM Naruto>EMS Sasuke by the time he fought Kabuto.
 

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Strongest EMS attack = Susanoo
Strongest BSM attack = Bijuu transformation

BSM = EMS
 

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It's not absurd by any means, especially if it's a KCM Naruto that has a TBB mastery, but you must have skimmed over my post as I was saying that KCM Naruto>EMS Sasuke by the time he fought Kabuto.


Still not true and kcm naruto can't use tbb unless you mean the mini tbb handheld version.

Kcm loses easily during naruto's conversation at the beginning of the fight to ms sasuke genjutsu or kyuubi chakra suppression.

Kcm is not a perfect jin so he can't avoid either. Also we all know he talks before every fight especially with sasuke.
 

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To be honest, there's no realistic measure by which Sasuke can equate to Naruto + Kyubi, it basically allows Naruto to reach his prime chakra growth a decade in advance via Hashirama's statement. They are equal on terms of being Ashura and Indra's incarnations, the Kyubi is separate and pushes Naruto far beyond that.
 
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