Strongest Hokage is the 3rd, Hiruzen Sarutobi

[kaycee87]

♫ The first had tha wood, tha second had water, fourth had speed but the third was greater. All the hokages have nothing on him, cause the third hokage truly had the will of fire burning within ♫ Yeah!

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[blackbird31468]

it was stated that the 4th was the greatest shinobi ever produced by the leaf, so minato is better then saratobi, how he compares to the 1st and 2nd idk cause they weren't produced by the leaf, they founded it

could possibly be considering potential, intellegence and leadership not just fighting.

 

[-Hades-]

Oh an one more thing, have you ever noticed that when anyone talks about someone (mostly Naruto) surpassing a Hokage, they always say that that person might even surpass the 4TH (except Sakura who was compared with the 5TH), ever wondered why they don't say surpass the first or third?

 

[blackbird31468]

Oh an one more thing, have you ever noticed that when anyone talks about someone (mostly Naruto) surpassing a Hokage, they always say that that person might even surpass the 4TH (except Sakura who was compared with the 5TH), ever wondered why they don't say surpass the first or third?

because that's naruto's father.

 

[ninjazz may cry]

minato was the strongest hokage of them all he had the time travaling jutsu he was a master on sealing jutsu`s and he was smarter then all the rest hokagezz n thats a fact!

 

[Toruk-Makto]

hashirama all thee way ....

 

[lXxNaGaToxXl]

strongest kage was the 1st. im sure his brother wasnt bad at all either . yea the 4th is awesome but id still stick with the 1st.

 

[Futur3Cha0s]

everyone saying that hashirama is the strongest because he defeated madara and the nine tails is wrong and needs to re-read the manga. it was stated that hashirama was able to take control of the nine tails away from madara (just like minato did). it was mito, hashirama's wife who sealed the nine tails within herself to stop it. hashirama did not defeat nine tails or tame it, thats just a myth. his wife sealed it within herself and then hashirama went on to defeat madara. the battle against madara+kyuubi for both hashirama and minato ended the same way, nine tails was taken away. afterwards is where the battles differ. hashirama defeated madara (perhaps madara's plan perhaps not), but he did not have to worry about a village and madara wasnt immortal at the time. minato wounded madara and made him run while having to worry about protecting the village. the battle was never truly won for minato because he had more important things to worry about than going after a heavily wounded person who was no longer a threat to the village at the time. if they had to battle it out it seems that minato would have won, but you can make the point that madara was not as strong as he used to be because he said he wasn't. but that doesn't mean that minato couldn't have defeated madara when he was at his most powerful. we will never know. as for who i think is the strongest, id go with minato because there are more references to him being stronger than any of the other hokage but we will never know for sure.

 

[danebrown]

everyone saying that hashirama is the strongest because he defeated madara and the nine tails is wrong and needs to re-read the manga. it was stated that hashirama was able to take control of the nine tails away from madara (just like minato did). it was mito, hashirama's wife who sealed the nine tails within herself to stop it. hashirama did not defeat nine tails or tame it, thats just a myth. his wife sealed it within herself and then hashirama went on to defeat madara. the battle against madara+kyuubi for both hashirama and minato ended the same way, nine tails was taken away. afterwards is where the battles differ. hashirama defeated madara (perhaps madara's plan perhaps not), but he did not have to worry about a village and madara wasnt immortal at the time. minato wounded madara and made him run while having to worry about protecting the village. the battle was never truly won for minato because he had more important things to worry about than going after a heavily wounded person who was no longer a threat to the village at the time. if they had to battle it out it seems that minato would have won, but you can make the point that madara was not as strong as he used to be because he said he wasn't. but that doesn't mean that minato couldn't have defeated madara when he was at his most powerful. we will never know. as for who i think is the strongest, id go with minato because there are more references to him being stronger than any of the other hokage but we will never know for sure.

Exactly Furthermore minato didn't live as long as suro so he didn'tspend as much time as the hokage yet his name was so revered, Minato is the Legend as Kages, the strongest kage gets the strongest son. Its Minatos abilities were unreal, all the kages were powerful ut minato was special, everyone knew that.

 

[tossedsalad]

This argument is kind of silly.

Something I always wanted to see in the Naruto manga was Sarutobi in his prime going all out, but it hasn't happened. We never got to see what it was that made him so revered and at this point in Naruto I don't think we'll get to either.

We have heard so many stories about Senju's power but we have yet to really see it. I would like to see the power that put fear in Madara, and hopefully we will get some flashbacks of Senju in future chapters.

So we haven't seen either of their true abilities and yet everyone here is claiming they know who the strongest is...

(I don't consider the battle between edo tensei Senju and Sarutobi to be a valid display of either of their power, and I hope all Naruto fans don't either)

 

[s0ulja]

any1 that says 1st,2nd,3rd, or 5th were the strongest are either being subjective or delusional...the onli 2 people that have halted madara's plans were minato and naruto, the fight with hasi was part of his plan...and i don't understand why people bring up the kyubi...being a senju+wood release hashi alredi has the ability tame the kyubi...where as minato faced the kyubi without any advantages...plus if 1st n forth were fight against EACH OTHER his famous would release would be useless

 

[Olorin]

A few very important points:

1. Hahirama fought Madara alone not the Kyubi, Mito helped him and im pretty sure Madara didnt have his space time back then, he didnt have senju DNA and he wasnt a creepy immortal(ish) zombie + it was all a part of his plan

2. lets say Hahirama were facing an opponent as strong as the Kyubi i.e. that means he couldnt tame him with his wood, tell me what the f?ck can wood (his by far most memorable ability) against such power, no srsly you think a forest will stop the power of the Kyubi?

3. When Minato fought Madara he Rasenganed the crap out of him and Madara retreated, why? cuz he didnt wanna die, if he just wanted to get away than why the hell would he even attempt to fight Minato (you say because he wanted him to distract him from the fox, I say he knew Minatos abilities pretty well and if he didnt consider the possibility oh him teleporting back to the village ... well than our Tobi really isnt all that bright)

4. the 3rd was desperately waiting for Minato during the fox attack even though he had a batallion of Konohas greatest ninjas at his side

5. Minato defeated Madara, saved Kushina, saved his son, summoned Gamabunta, released Kyubi from Madaras control, teleported a tbb, teleported the Kyubi!, sealed the Kyubi with what are so far the most complex sealing techniques in the Narutoverse (and he did two fuinjutsu at once) and at the same time thought for about 20 years ahead, ...

6. to top the previous fact he was under stress even when Kushina was in labour, consider what psychological trauma he went trough after Madara attempted to blow up his newborn son and consider that he was thinking that his wife Kushina could die at any moment (because the jinchuurikis usually die after the TB extraction) and to top it th Kyubi was raging in Konoha and noone could stop it and as a Hokage the entire village is his family (imagine what stress that is, you cant function normally in such times, no human can and if you say that is a weakness I say you are weird)

7. last but not least he was able to put up a barrier so strong not even Hiruzen could enter while fighting the Kyubi

8. Hiruzens last resort VS the First Second and Orochimaru! was Minatos tech, and he seemed a lot more scared of Minato than all the other 3 put together

 

[s0ulja]

A few very important points:

1. Hahirama fought Madara alone not the Kyubi, Mito helped him and im pretty sure Madara didnt have his space time back then, he didnt have senju DNA and he wasnt a creepy immortal(ish) zombie + it was all a part of his plan

2. lets say Hahirama were facing an opponent as strong as the Kyubi i.e. that means he couldnt tame him with his wood, tell me what the f?ck can wood (his by far most memorable ability) against such power, no srsly you think a forest will stop the power of the Kyubi?

3. When Minato fought Madara he Rasenganed the crap out of him and Madara retreated, why? cuz he didnt wanna die, if he just wanted to get away than why the hell would he even attempt to fight Minato (you say because he wanted him to distract him from the fox, I say he knew Minatos abilities pretty well and if he didnt consider the possibility oh him teleporting back to the village ... well than our Tobi really isnt all that bright)

4. the 3rd was desperately waiting for Minato during the fox attack even though he had a batallion of Konohas greatest ninjas at his side

5. Minato defeated Madara, saved Kushina, saved his son, summoned Gamabunta, released Kyubi from Madaras control, teleported a tbb, teleported the Kyubi!, sealed the Kyubi with what are so far the most complex sealing techniques in the Narutoverse (and he did two fuinjutsu at once) and at the same time thought for about 20 years ahead, ...

6. to top the previous fact he was under stress even when Kushina was in labour, consider what psychological trauma he went trough after Madara attempted to blow up his newborn son and consider that he was thinking that his wife Kushina could die at any moment (because the jinchuurikis usually die after the TB extraction) and to top it th Kyubi was raging in Konoha and noone could stop it and as a Hokage the entire village is his family (imagine what stress that is, you cant function normally in such times, no human can and if you say that is a weakness I say you are weird)

7. last but not least he was able to put up a barrier so strong not even Hiruzen could enter while fighting the Kyubi

agreed

also i think the 3rd also copied 4th's seal...the seal on 3rds dead bodi looks veri similar to the one on naruto

 

[Olorin]

agreed

also i think the 3rd also copied 4th's seal...the seal on 3rds dead bodi looks veri similar to the one on naruto

the Dead Demon Consuming seal was Minatos tech Hiruzen said it

 

[lXxNaGaToxXl]

A few very important points:

1. Hahirama fought Madara alone not the Kyubi, Mito helped him and im pretty sure Madara didnt have his space time back then, he didnt have senju DNA and he wasnt a creepy immortal(ish) zombie + it was all a part of his plan

2. lets say Hahirama were facing an opponent as strong as the Kyubi i.e. that means he couldnt tame him with his wood, tell me what the f?ck can wood (his by far most memorable ability) against such power, no srsly you think a forest will stop the power of the Kyubi?

3. When Minato fought Madara he Rasenganed the crap out of him and Madara retreated, why? cuz he didnt wanna die, if he just wanted to get away than why the hell would he even attempt to fight Minato (you say because he wanted him to distract him from the fox, I say he knew Minatos abilities pretty well and if he didnt consider the possibility oh him teleporting back to the village ... well than our Tobi really isnt all that bright)

4. the 3rd was desperately waiting for Minato during the fox attack even though he had a batallion of Konohas greatest ninjas at his side

5. Minato defeated Madara, saved Kushina, saved his son, summoned Gamabunta, released Kyubi from Madaras control, teleported a tbb, teleported the Kyubi!, sealed the Kyubi with what are so far the most complex sealing techniques in the Narutoverse (and he did two fuinjutsu at once) and at the same time thought for about 20 years ahead, ...

6. to top the previous fact he was under stress even when Kushina was in labour, consider what psychological trauma he went trough after Madara attempted to blow up his newborn son and consider that he was thinking that his wife Kushina could die at any moment (because the jinchuurikis usually die after the TB extraction) and to top it th Kyubi was raging in Konoha and noone could stop it and as a Hokage the entire village is his family (imagine what stress that is, you cant function normally in such times, no human can and if you say that is a weakness I say you are weird)

7. last but not least he was able to put up a barrier so strong not even Hiruzen could enter while fighting the Kyubi

all this give plus to to 4th, 4th is very good yes, but be rational i doubt the 4th could beat the madara the 1st faced. we know nothing of the the 1st other than he was an senju and he had wood element, we know nothin of jutsu he could other than the few he used when he was summoned by orchimaru. does any one know how the 1st died?

 

[Sterling Malory Archer]

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i jus recentli watched the episode on anime where kabuto made that comment..from what he said he was suggesting 3rd wasn't the strongest of the hokages..what he was saying was the hokage is usually the strongest amongst the other kages and oro defeated him (it jus happens to be 3rd)...he was jus saying itt o make oro feelbetter about losin hir arms

"his(4th's) capabilities as a ninja were unrivaled in history..." Jiraiya ep90 of Naruto
Jiraiya knew about all hokages capabilities...so no the 3rd wasn't the strongest kage it was 4th

Hiruzen was stronger then the 1st and the 2nd. But the 4th was stronger then the 3rd.

 

[s0ulja]

the Dead Demon Consuming seal was Minatos tech Hiruzen said it

oh i got it confused with IWR..my bad

 

[s0ulja]

Hiruzen was stronger then the 1st and the 2nd. But the 4th was stronger then the 3rd.

thats what i think too...as the trend goes current/next generation always surpasses the previous

 

[Olorin]

all this give plus to to 4th, 4th is very good yes, but be rational i doubt the 4th could beat the madara the 1st faced. we know nothing of the the 1st other than he was an senju and he had wood element, we know nothin of jutsu he could other than the few he used when he was summoned by orchimaru. does any one know how the 1st died?

the same goes for all Hokage (even all kage for that matter, actually that goes for most strong ninjas) so that is no argument, I could say the same about Minato

and for the old Madara part, back then he was still trying to become immortal now he is, back then he didnt have his ST tech now he has and im pretty sure no tech is fast enough to hit him except FTG and perhaps raiton armor

 

[Sterling Malory Archer]

thats what i think too...as the trend goes current/next generation always surpasses the previous

it's what i knowHiruzen said it himself