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I think we are derailing from the main point of this thread that was if mods should or not enforce new restrictions on old, powerful techniques. Honestly, lets look at this in a practical point of view and for that I'll write a few questions which I'm curious to see if anyone knows the answers:

-How many approved Customs do you think exist currently in NB?

-How many customs where submitted from January until now in our RP?

MAN!
SO IRONIC!
I was about to make a thread last night asking
how do the mods know if their is any existing CJ..
like is their a list
or they have to remember those things?
 

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1. Hmmm 10,000 ish

2. atleast more than half of the total ever created.
Since January, with the 3 techs per submission rule there was about (give or take) 5700 submissions of customs. This excludes CEs off course.

Now, approved, since the creation of the rp there are about (give or take, bare in mind its just a number) about 8000 customs, custom summons, etc.

Now, to review one, we'd need to review all. We took 9 months to check 5700 submissions...how long do you think it would take to recheck 7000? About a year, more or less. I say this because I refuse the concept of rechecking, re-evaluating some approved customs and not others. And I'm utterly against the concept of simply taking them away from the member in question.


Now, lets be honest, is this even remotely viable?
 

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Since January, with the 3 techs per submission rule there was about (give or take) 5700 submissions of customs. This excludes CEs off course.

Now, approved, since the creation of the rp there are about (give or take, bare in mind its just a number) about 8000 customs, custom summons, etc.

Now, to review one, we'd need to review all. We took 9 months to check 5700 submissions...how long do you think it would take to recheck 7000? About a year, more or less. I say this because I refuse the concept of rechecking, re-evaluating some approved customs and not others. And I'm utterly against the concept of simply taking them away from the member in question.


Now, lets be honest, is this even remotely viable?
not in the slightest.

rechecking 7000 cj while still checking newly submitted ones would cripple the system
 

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MAN!
SO IRONIC!
I was about to make a thread last night asking
how do the mods know if their is any existing CJ..
like is their a list
or they have to remember those things?
I thought of making a list of all the approved customs...but time isn't on my side and that would prove a mayhem with updates and all other concepts that exist in the CJ thread.


And you are right minato. It would be unfair to recheck some without rechecking all. And I don't agree with that.
 

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lol if we want a bunch of cranky, overworked moderators, this is the perfect plan xD
ikr.. its more a recipe for disaster

"Hey the mods are overworked and can barely keep up, I know!!! Lets throw a bitchfit and get them to redo 4 years of work overnight"

:sy:
 

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@Minato: Why do you hate new gen Rp'ers.I have always seen you make fun of us(new gen)!
Just because you joined the site a year or two earlier than us doesn't make you above us.Yes our gen has nuke-spamming Rp'ers but there are also skilled people in our batch.Not everybody is meant for greatness in Rp.
Keep that in mind before making fun of the newer gen^^
 
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@Minato: Why do you hate new gen Rp'ers.I have always seen you make fun of us(new gen)!
Just because you joined the site a year or two earlier than us doesn't make you above us.Yes our gen has nuke-spamming Rp'ers but there are also skilled people in our batch.Not everybody is meant for greatness in Rp.
Keep that in mind before making fun of the newer gen^^
misunderstanding my point there..

my point was, the newer rpers usually moan about what the older members have.. which is true

if all the older rpers leave, the newer gen couldnt replace the experience and teaching ability of the older members .. which is true

so if we all get our unique abilities stripped and leave in protest, the rp wouldnt work.. again.. perfectly true
 

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Since January, with the 3 techs per submission rule there was about (give or take) 5700 submissions of customs. This excludes CEs off course.

Now, approved, since the creation of the rp there are about (give or take, bare in mind its just a number) about 8000 customs, custom summons, etc.

Now, to review one, we'd need to review all. We took 9 months to check 5700 submissions...how long do you think it would take to recheck 7000? About a year, more or less. I say this because I refuse the concept of rechecking, re-evaluating some approved customs and not others. And I'm utterly against the concept of simply taking them away from the member in question.


Now, lets be honest, is this even remotely viable?
I was pretty much right ... go me !!!!

Need to stop slacking son ;) just kidding

I thought of making a list of all the approved customs...but time isn't on my side and that would prove a mayhem with updates and all other concepts that exist in the CJ thread.


And you are right minato. It would be unfair to recheck some without rechecking all. And I don't agree with that.
You don't need a list of approved cj... you have the cj users forum where people store their own customs. Ok atleast one cj thread is hidden from us users as far as i know but alot of the old cj are still in the old cj forum xd

lol if we want a bunch of cranky, overworked moderators, this is the perfect plan xD
Exacta... but scorpseh be crankeh because he hasn't been breastfed today O_<

@Minato: Why do you hate new gen Rp'ers.I have always seen you make fun of us(new gen)!
Just because you joined the site a year or two earlier than us doesn't make you above us.Yes our gen has nuke-spamming Rp'ers but there are also skilled people in our batch.Not everybody is meant for greatness in Rp.
Keep that in mind before making fun of the newer gen^^
I hate new gen rpers who think rp is about power, and not fun. If i like someone, i'll help them out, like Method, Cobalt, Gaara... ect... because they have the right attitude.
 

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ikr.. its more a recipe for disaster

"Hey the mods are overworked and can barely keep up, I know!!! Lets throw a bitchfit and get them to redo 4 years of work overnight"

:sy:
xD Perfect solution U_U

@Minato: Why do you hate new gen Rp'ers.I have always seen you make fun of us(new gen)!
Just because you joined the site a year or two earlier than us doesn't make you above us.Yes our gen has nuke-spamming Rp'ers but there are also skilled people in our batch.Not everybody is meant for greatness in Rp.
Keep that in mind before making fun of the newer gen^^
With all due respect, utter bull. He makes fun of me too D;
In all seriousness, before you joined, before I joined, before a lot of us joined there were less members. Far less. With far less members there can be more allowed for there will be less chaos etc. The ones who joined later didn't have the 'luck' that they could think of something and it didn't exist yet, nor did we have the 'luck' that there still was much über OP'ed stuff allowed. Is that fair? Maybe not. Can we do anything about it? No. Is it something to make a big deal of? Hell no. Things are as they are and nothing, really nothing, can be 100% fair. Nothing to do about it. Beside that, rp is for fun, not about who is most OP'ed. Let's all keep that in mind.

I was pretty much right ... go me !!!!
Exacta... but scorpseh be crankeh because he hasn't been breastfed today O_<
What are you waiting for then ;)
 

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xD Perfect solution U_U


With all due respect, utter bull. He makes fun of me too D;
In all seriousness, before you joined, before I joined, before a lot of us joined there were less members. Far less. With far less members there can be more allowed for there will be less chaos etc. The ones who joined later didn't have the 'luck' that they could think of something and it didn't exist yet, nor did we have the 'luck' that there still was much über OP'ed stuff allowed. Is that fair? Maybe not. Can we do anything about it? No. Is it something to make a big deal of? Hell no. Things are as they are and nothing, really nothing, can be 100% fair. Nothing to do about it. Beside that, rp is for fun, not about who is most OP'ed. Let's all keep that in mind.


What are you waiting for then ;)
Your breasts U_U
 

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misunderstanding my point there..

my point was, the newer rpers usually moan about what the older members have.. which is true

if all the older rpers leave, the newer gen couldnt replace the experience and teaching ability of the older members .. which is true

so if we all get our unique abilities stripped and leave in protest, the rp wouldnt work.. again.. perfectly true

:|
-sigh-
Its hard to go against that
though i do agree with igneel in saying you dislike Newer Gen

I have realized that only the new gen complain
and Im one of them but idc... Its just Rping.. for all I care Me complaining is Rping too.

but what you guys fail to see is where WE stand in all of this... Rp is supposed to be skill based AND fun... Now dont get me wrong

Gettn Brutley murdered by OP JUTSUS/ELEMENTS or 12th gate speed and murdered to death isnt quite fun for the other person. so the fact of the matter is... You guys cant COMPLAIN about us COMPLAINING cause you arent in our shoes.... granted If i stayed on nb back in 2010 (which i regret to this day that i didntt. :( ) i wouldnt be having this convo really...... But the simple thing is... In this Rp you guys emphasize equality, fairness, and Fun

but you guys are the only ones accessible to OP shish

you guys are talking from your shoes.... get out of them and stand in others
then you can grasp the concept of what is at hand. U_U
 
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-sigh-
Its hard to go against that
though i do agree with igneel in saying you dislike Newer Gen

I have realized that only the new gen complain
and Im one of them but idc... Its just Rping.. for all I care Me complaining is Rping too.

but what you guys fail to see is where WE stand in all of this... Rp is supposed to be skill based AND fun... Not dont get me wrong

Gettn Brutley murdered by OP JUTSUS/ELEMENTS or 12th gate speed and murdered to death isnt quite fun for the other person. so the fact of the matter is... You guys cant COMPLAIN about us COMPLAINING cause you arent in our shoes.... granted If i stayed on nb back in 2010 (which i regret to this day that i didntt. :( ) i wouldnt be having this convo really...... But the simple thing is... In this Rp you guys emphasize equality, fairness, and Fun

but you guys are the only ones accessible to OP shish

you guys are talking from your shoes.... get out of them and stand in others
then you can grasp the concept of what is at hand. U_U
want a solution?

when you fight an old gen, make rules saying no cj or ce or something like that if you cant stand letting us use our abilities, its that bloody simple

no need for massive threads and arguments about it ~_~
 

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:|
-sigh-
Its hard to go against that
though i do agree with igneel in saying you dislike Newer Gen

I have realized that only the new gen complain
and Im one of them but idc... Its just Rping.. for all I care Me complaining is Rping too.

but what you guys fail to see is where WE stand in all of this... Rp is supposed to be skill based AND fun... Not dont get me wrong

Gettn Brutley murdered by OP JUTSUS/ELEMENTS or 12th gate speed and murdered to death isnt quite fun for the other person. so the fact of the matter is... You guys cant COMPLAIN about us COMPLAINING cause you arent in our shoes.... granted If i stayed on nb back in 2010 (which i regret to this day that i didntt. :( ) i wouldnt be having this convo really...... But the simple thing is... In this Rp you guys emphasize equality, fairness, and Fun

but you guys are the only ones accessible to OP shish

you guys are talking from your shoes.... get out of them and stand in others
then you can grasp the concept of what is at hand. U_U
We didn't start off as the best and the most OP, we started in the same place as you and worked hard to get where we are. Along the way i've had things taken away from me...

Like my Uchiha bio with sage mode when a new rule was made... It was fair i guess... but i didn't like it, so i worked harder to get where i am.

And we are not the only ones to "OP shish", you can win stuff in tournaments, you can go take bio tests like Pein or Minato (much like Rexii did) and you will have immense power. The difference is, we had the skill to get the power. I passed the Nagato test, but still dropped the bio ;) You can pass that test and shinra tensei anything away or absorb any jutsu O_O
 

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I would be honest all those role players who claim to love fun and not care about being overpowered are speaking bull shit, you are the same people who go out bugging moderators who are you're
Friends to approve some thing which is not right, you know yourself. The system is filled off overpowered custom but taking them away is not the answer at the end of this day this thread would be closed,members infracted or banned and nothing shall change that the hard reality.
 

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I would be honest all those role players who claim to love fun and not care about being overpowered are speaking bull shit, you are the same people who go out bugging moderators who are you're
Friends to approve some thing which is not right, you know yourself. The system is filled off overpowered custom but taking them away is not the answer at the end of this day this thread would be closed,members infracted or banned and nothing shall change that the hard reality.
see this, this is a new gen speaking sense xD nice one man ^_^
 

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I would be honest all those role players who claim to love fun and not care about being overpowered are speaking bull shit, you are the same people who go out bugging moderators who are you're
Friends to approve some thing which is not right, you know yourself. The system is filled off overpowered custom but taking them away is not the answer at the end of this day this thread would be closed,members infracted or banned and nothing shall change that the hard reality.
I love fun :|

Read my fights lately and point out the power? :|
 

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Well stripping the older gen from their OP customs,thats not fair.I agree to that.Where is the fun,if we can't fight them at their best.
But jutsu's like the ion armour,that should have some restrictions nonetheless.
 

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want a solution?

when you fight an old gen, make rules saying no cj or ce or something like that if you cant stand letting us use our abilities, its that bloody simple

no need for massive threads and arguments about it ~_~
Wait.. Let me backtrack... I dont complain about me not gettn OP customs... I complain about OP CUSTOMS... ;) see what i did there..

I would never limit somebody in rp if its an all out battle to something
cause for all i see... I can tell you not to use zetsu special abilities and you dont and i win.. but all ima realize is... If you use your bio to its full potential i would lose... No pride or fun in winning in a handicap....

@Thunderbolt... I do agree. this convo comes up about every 2months..... I just put it like this....Just have a day where everybody can submit one OP custom.... =DD I wanna make something call cell obliteration... Where i can desinegrate (spelling) somebody cells by just breathing on them :zonder: but sadly that will never get approved and i dont think that wouldve got approved back then ... :shrug: All in all You guys worked hard for what you got.. true... But we work hard also... but the difference between yall and us is... We have limitations.. Back then you guys didnt.... If you guys wanted to kill a hyuga while being a sharigan user and a medical ninja.. im sure you guys could have took his byakougan.. took out on of your eyes and implanted it inside yourself (Just speaking hypothetically how things difer from then and today)

Edit: Why do people keep saying the Ion particle is OP... Like really? Its actually not and very easy to counter... Worst case sceneraio If whoever uses ion particle will more then likley wanna smash your face in (short range) just turn your body to water and take a double loss. Its not THAT op.... similar to Raikages armor
 

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Wait.. Let me backtrack... I dont complain about me not gettn OP customs... I complain about OP CUSTOMS... ;) see what i did there..

I would never limit somebody in rp if its an all out battle to something
cause for all i see... I can tell you not to use zetsu special abilities and you dont and i win.. but all ima realize is... If you use your bio to its full potential i would lose... No pride or fun in winning in a handicap....

@Thunderbolt... I do agree. this convo comes up about every 2months..... I just put it like this....Just have a day where everybody can submit one OP custom.... =DD I wanna make something call cell obliteration... Where i can desinegrate (spelling) somebody cells by just breathing on them :zonder: but sadly that will never get approved and i dont think that wouldve got approved back then ... :shrug: All in all You guys worked hard for what you got.. true... But we work hard also... but the difference between yall and us is... We have limitations.. Back then you guys didnt.... If you guys wanted to kill a hyuga while being a sharigan user and a medical ninja.. im sure you guys could have took his byakougan.. took out on of your eyes and implanted it inside yourself (Just speaking hypothetically how things difer from then and today)
actually, aside from the no sage mode or eig on kg bios, the rules havent changes all that much from when i started rping
 
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