Spoiler: Izanagi and Izanami DO NOT need senju dna

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the manga has dodgy translations but this thread is wrong episode 253 and 3.45secs states there you need to possess both clans powers so i dno where u got it frm tht u dnt
Clearly you failed to read any of this post.. I can't say I read it all.. But at least I didn't miss the part where it was a theory. Come on dude, get your stuff together.
 

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Whether Tobi's Izanagi is complete or not doesn't mater, the reason Kishi wrote, Senju AND Uchiha with the "And" in bold is because he wants us to know they do require the dna of both clans.

but I must give you credit for the effort and time in writing that
Except that Kishi doesn't write the English translations for the Manga. Some wackadoodle fan does.

So until you get a hold of the Japanese version of the manga, learn japanese above a 1st grade level, and translate it for yourself, you won't know what Kishi actually said.

And I am ****ing tired of all these people claiming 'the mana said so' when your reference is to a version of the manga that was most likely translated poorly to begin with.

Get a ****ing clue.
 

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Thanks for making this interesting thread, I've been reading through it, and it'll kinda made sense. I want to figure out some more about this Izanami - It sounds heck op.
 

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Yeah i always thought that uchihas could use izanagi......

I have had a few debates about it and people never believed me, this was last year btw.

I always thought that because of the uchiha labelling it a kinjutsu.
 

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Page 17, last square; "the kinjutsu is released!".

Kinjutsu (禁術; Literally meaning "Forbidden Techniques") are techniques that have been banned from being taught or used. I.e forbidden.

So Izanami is indeed called a forbidden technique in the latest episode :)
And you KNOW for a fact that this refers to Izanami and not Edo Tensei?
 
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some more points which can help improve your theory,

Izanagi was used so6p.
so6p had both sage eyes and sage body.
now, izanagi can be used by uchiha's as they posses sage eyes but it would be still incomplete and you would need sage's body means senju dna to use complete izanagi.

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but i had a question too, i didn't really understand izanagi, it just gives you an extra life in replacement of your one sharingan eye ??
 

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Except that Kishi doesn't write the English translations for the Manga. Some wackadoodle fan does.

So until you get a hold of the Japanese version of the manga, learn japanese above a 1st grade level, and translate it for yourself, you won't know what Kishi actually said.

And I am ****ing tired of all these people claiming 'the mana said so' when your reference is to a version of the manga that was most likely translated poorly to begin with.

Get a ****ing clue.
:sy:

So you're saying the manga that I bought from the store is wrong? The manga which was translated by people that can speak/read japanese.

HA! Sorry,but you're wrong.

So yes "the manga say so" :rolleyes:
 

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What if Kabuto modified Itachi with the 1st Hokage DNA too? just like how he did with Madara, and simply Itachi knew he had it but didn't want to use any of his Jutsu's, then decided to use Izanami on him, a technique Kabuto didn't know about, lol.. :p
 

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I don't fully agree with you, but it's a nice theory that seems plausible.

I will give you Izanami, since there is no evidence that Itachi ever acquired Senju DNA.
It's more likely that he didn't, given that his chakra reserves aren't really noted to be gigantic like those infused with Hashirama's DNA.

But Izanagi was stated to need both. It would make sense that Tobi states that it's a Uchiha Kinjutsu because Uchiha are more reliant on their Sharingan than their ears like Zabuza would be.
 
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