So, who do you think is the best sensei in the entire series?

[IIB7252]

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Jiraiya seems to agree
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Wow wow....Hats off brother....Simply Genus...

 

[Anakin Skywalker]

This is about being a sensei and whilst i know that he never thought obito about being a good shinobi and what not, that isnt what i judge his teaching abilities on. I judge it on how much talent the student had and the time duration for their training.

Obito was arguable the least talented student out of all the other students that the other sensei's have taught, yes he had less talent than naruto imo. It was also roughly a year after his training did he launch the attack on konoha. Mofo was destroying anbu who were given direct orders from the hokage for breakfast and taming the kyuubi. That is something that obito would only dream about, before he met madara.

Also say that jiraiya is overrated as a sensei and imo, he is one of the worst if not the worst. Not sure why people think he is the best. After 3 years, naruto came back with a bigger rasengan and still couldnt break genjutsu, though this was itachi level genjutsu. He trained minato, however minato was said to be a genius and so far the best thing jiraiya did for minato was let him form a contract with the toads. Minato's own genius is what allowed him to created hiraishin and rasengan. The latter he taught to jiraiya. Kushina's influence also attributed to minato's skill. Heck kushina was a better sensei to minato than jiraiya. He taught nagato, however the wielder of the rinnegan, the sage's eyes allowed him to master technique's with ease. Naruto's later development into km/bm is cause of Bee and not jiraiya. It annoys me when people give this feat to jiraiya and im thinking, i must be watching a different show because im certain it was bee's guidance that allowed naruto to control the fox.

Jiraiya's obsession with naruto's transformation technique and perverted old man habits, makes him the worst teacher imo. He might have taught the most students that we know of in the series however he is NOT the best sensei. In fact Tsunade training of Sakura after the time skip was far impressive. She was shown to be one of the best medic's in the series, but also her chakra control and ability to release it at the right time makes Tsunade's work on sakura much better than jiraiya's work on Naruto after the time skip far impressive and she had to handle the affairs of the village as well

WTH blaze release .... i think u misunderstood the meaning of this thread ....

A good sensei who influenced his students to become good guys in the world ... and madara doesn't fit that description

if its about creating the most OP student then Madara comes into play whit obito
then also madara created one OP ninja who already had a sharingan ...then Hashi's DNA implanted in his right side by madara (how convenient isn't it)

Jiraiya created 5 OP ninja's Minato,Konan,Yahiko,Nagato,Naruto only one of them has a KG (nagato's rinnegan)

Jiraiya made a kage level ninja out of an idiot who failed the acadamy exam 3 times (THREE TIMES) who has no intelligence and chakra control what so ever

yes when jiraiya took over naruto he had already learned shadow clown jutsu but he was doing it without efficiency and chakra control.

It was jiraiya who told naruto about the kurama chakra and how to utilize it for jutsu when teaching him summoning contract
It was jiraiya who gave naruto the key for kurama's seal which was left in his possession
More than all that Jiraiya gave naruto the ideology of true peace and left naruto with the goal of finding true peace

"Even I can tell that hatred is spreading. I wanted to do something about it … but I don't know what … but I believe… that someday the day will come when people truly understand one another!! If I can't find the answer, it will be up to you to do it!!"
-Jiraiya

"You're wrong, that's not what makes a shinobi. You never did get it, a real ninja is one who endures no matter what gets thrown at him… Let me explain something to you, there is only one thing that matters if you are a shinobi, and it isn't the number of techniques you possess. All you do need, is the guts to never give up."
-Jiraiya

Jiraiya made naruto what he is now

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Dude you really arent helping yourself, if maybe you didnt cling onto the beliefs that the teacher had that they passed onto their student and actually talk about something of more relevance then i might give you my time and pick you apart. Ive already said in my previous post that if based on beliefs/morals passed on then its jiraiya. I dont base a teacher's teaching ability to this but rather, the student's talent and the time it takes from what the student was before they were trained.

Fact that you asked, what has madara trained obito in is enough for me to say that, you really aren't worth taking time with. Clearly your maga knolwedge is lacking if you ask me this. Might however reply.

Izanagi is a technique that madara wouldve taught obito. Its an uchiha kinjutsu that before obito bet madara would have no idea. An uchiha legend like madara, however would know about this technique and its him, that taught about this.

Its also him that taught obito uchiha kaijin which is another uchiha technique, but this time a barrier. A technique that 13 year old obito before he met madara's most likely had no idea and going again by madara being the legend of uchiha would know.

Its possible madara's influence with taijutsu that allowed him to troll the anbu's with ease

Sharingan genjutsu, is another, something that before obito met madara though he had awakened the sharingan hadnt shown. Its due to madara's influence that he was able to control the kyuubi, something that so far only madara has done. Its obvious its madara's who polished obito's genjutsu to a degree to control the fox. He has later showed other genjutsu ability.


Its due to madara's influence that has allowed obito to use chakra chains and gedo mazo.

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Madara even confirmed here that he taught obito izanagi when he said he will teach him the uchiha kinjutsu. With rikoudo jutsu, im unsure what this is and the same can be said about inyouton jutsu, though the later has to do with yin and yang energy.

Anyway im done here

i did say that "madara gave him a little push"(teached him a couple of things mainly for the plan but he already had it, kamui and hashi's cells) and i said that to show you how little did madara teach him .... and thank god your done coz your hopeless, bye bye didn't even read the hall thing (typical itachi fan, tries too hard to sound smart .... heh don't make me laugh) i feel sorry for you, you don't even understand this simple thread ....

 

[Blaze Release]

WTH blaze release .... i think u misunderstood the meaning of this thread ....

A good sensei who influenced his students to become good guys in the world ... and madara doesn't fit that description

if its about creating the most OP student then Madara comes into play whit obito
then also madara created one OP ninja who already had a sharingan ...then Hashi's DNA implanted in his right side by madara (how convenient isn't it)

Jiraiya created 5 OP ninja's Minato,Konan,Yahiko,Nagato,Naruto only one of them has a KG (nagato's rinnegan)

Jiraiya made a kage level ninja out of an idiot who failed the acadamy exam 3 times (THREE TIMES) who has no intelligence and chakra control what so ever

yes when jiraiya took over naruto he had already learned shadow clown jutsu but he was doing it without efficiency and chakra control.

It was jiraiya who told naruto about the kurama chakra and how to utilize it for jutsu when teaching him summoning contract
It was jiraiya who gave naruto the key for kurama's seal which was left in his possession
More than all that Jiraiya gave naruto the ideology of true peace and left naruto with the goal of finding true peace

"Even I can tell that hatred is spreading. I wanted to do something about it … but I don't know what … but I believe… that someday the day will come when people truly understand one another!! If I can't find the answer, it will be up to you to do it!!"
-Jiraiya

"You're wrong, that's not what makes a shinobi. You never did get it, a real ninja is one who endures no matter what gets thrown at him… Let me explain something to you, there is only one thing that matters if you are a shinobi, and it isn't the number of techniques you possess. All you do need, is the guts to never give up."
-Jiraiya

Jiraiya made naruto what he is now

Jiraiya didnt create 5 op ninja's he helped them with the basics, but those ninja's had other teachers who made them what they are now. I find it strange that you say hiruzen didnt teach jiraiya rasengan, sm, frog katas. Hiruzen didnt teach tsunade medic ninjutsu and orochimaru his snake abilities, yet you say jiraiya created 5 op ninja's. What you said about hiruzen and his students can be applied to jiraiya and his students.

As for the quote you brought up, ive acknowledged it however it depends on how you define a sensei. All ive said is legit. If madara doesnt fit the bill then why is he in the poll, along with oro and others. Also why is that guy so mad for, its not like i've brought fan fiction into this.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Jiraiya didnt create 5 op ninja's he helped them with the basics, but those ninja's had other teachers who made them what they are now. I find it strange that you say hiruzen didnt teach jiraiya rasnegan, sm, frog katas. Hiruzen didnt teach tsunade medic ninjutsu and orochimaru his snake abilities, yet you say jiraiya created 5 op ninja's. What you said about hiruzen and his students can be applied to jiraiya and his students.

As for the quote you brought up, ive acknowledged it however it depends on how you define a sensei. Also why is that guy so mad for, its not like im brought fan fiction into this. All ive said is legit.

am not mad bro were cool (just messing with you) and to be honest most of what you said wasn't legit (flawed logic and you contredict yourself), you waned to talk power wise coz that is what maters to you in a senei's teachings so i did .... AGAIN it depends on how you DEFINE a sensei like you said and the way you define a SENSEI has nothing to do with this thread

 

[Anakin Skywalker]

Jiraiya didnt create 5 op ninja's he helped them with the basics, but those ninja's had other teachers who made them what they are now. I find it strange that you say hiruzen didnt teach jiraiya rasnegan, sm, frog katas. Hiruzen didnt teach tsunade medic ninjutsu and orochimaru his snake abilities, yet you say jiraiya created 5 op ninja's. What you said about hiruzen and his students can be applied to jiraiya and his students.

As for the quote you brought up, ive acknowledged it however it depends on how you define a sensei. Also why is that guy so mad for, its not like im brought fan fiction into this. All ive said is legit.

i accept to an extend Minato learned from Kushina and created some on his own who are the other sensei for Konan,Yahiko,Nagato
every one learns the basic from their sensei and develop their own style and what they are good at no denying that

the point i was trying to make with Hiruzen was that "Hiruzen was not responsiple for what Orochimaru,Tsunade,Jiraiya are now"
of course Hiruzen was not responsible for Orochimaru turning evil but he had a chance to stop him b4 he got out of hand and probably convince him but didn't stop him(bad sensei)

But if you take Jiraiya he taught Nagato,Yahiko and konan and when he found out they have turned bad he fought Konan then pain to the death .... after that also naruto only convinced nagato using Jiraiya's ideology.... in a sense Jiraiya was responsible for most of Nagato,Konan and yahiko being OP and turning good
Yes naruto had kakashi's training and bee's help but Naruto being who he is now also bcos of Jman's Ideology ....

i'm not denying what you have posted ....but i'm denying the way you judge a sensei by only the amount of OP jutsu they teach to their students ...

 

[thegame]

Probably the worst poll I've ever seen. Leaving out people like Danzo and Hiruzen, who probably taught most people overall in Konoha, but with 2 different ideals in their teachings. Another thing is Madara... Who the **** did he teach? Obito? He taught him very little compared to the rest. He just used him, and gave him the teaching needed to fulfill Madaras plans..

What about shinobi from other villages? Mu taught Onoki a lot of sick stuff for instance.. Onoki also must have taught a lot, for instance only a few people can fly..

What about Bee? He taught Naruto a lot, and he also has 3 students.....

Baki taught the sand siblings? Though little is known they are all kage / jonin levels..

 

[IIB7252]

Dude you really arent helping yourself, if maybe you didnt cling onto the beliefs that the teacher had that they passed onto their student and actually talk about something of more relevance then i might give you my time and pick you apart. Ive already said in my previous post that if based on beliefs/morals passed on then its jiraiya. I dont base a teacher's teaching ability to this but rather, the student's talent and the time it takes from what the student was before they were trained.

Fact that you asked, what has madara trained obito in is enough for me to say that, you really aren't worth taking time with. Clearly your maga knolwedge is lacking if you ask me this. Might however reply.

Izanagi is a technique that madara wouldve taught obito. Its an uchiha kinjutsu that before obito bet madara would have no idea. An uchiha legend like madara, however would know about this technique and its him, that taught about this.

Its also him that taught obito uchiha kaijin which is another uchiha technique, but this time a barrier. A technique that 13 year old obito before he met madara's most likely had no idea and going again by madara being the legend of uchiha would know.

Its possible madara's influence with taijutsu that allowed him to troll the anbu's with ease

Sharingan genjutsu, is another, something that before obito met madara though he had awakened the sharingan hadnt shown. Its due to madara's influence that he was able to control the kyuubi, something that so far only madara has done. Its obvious its madara's who polished obito's genjutsu to a degree to control the fox. He has later showed other genjutsu ability.


Its due to madara's influence that has allowed obito to use chakra chains and gedo mazo.

Just for the lol's ill add this;

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Madara even confirmed here that he taught obito izanagi when he said he will teach him the uchiha kinjutsu. With rikoudo jutsu, im unsure what this is and the same can be said about inyouton jutsu, though the later has to do with yin and yang energy.

Anyway im done here

U say that obito was bad ninja he got kicked by every1 like GAI and Kakashi untill madara found him u r absolutely right....
He didnt had Shahringan thats y he used to get kicked around...Once he had shahringan things changed he saved kakashi and also rin and that was before he met MADARA....Than Tragedy Happened he got crushed by stone...that was the time when madara found him...He just guided him and and added Senju DNA in him...thats what he did...He just showed how to use the justus....

If the student is bright teacher doesnt need to work hard on the student...he just needs to guide and sit back...thats what happened in case of OBITO and sasuke...

But jiraya took naruto who was the worst student...difficult to teach hard headed...But he taught the NINJA WAY GUTS TO NEVER GIVE UP...he turned coal into diamond...

 

[Blaze Release]

i accept to an extend Minato learned from Kushina and created some on his own who are the other sensei for Konan,Yahiko,Nagato
every one learns the basic from their sensei and develop their own style and what they are good at no denying that

the point i was trying to make with Hiruzen was that "Hiruzen was not responsiple for what Orochimaru,Tsunade,Jiraiya are now"
of course Hiruzen was not responsible for Orochimaru turning evil but he had a chance to stop him b4 he got out of hand and probably convince him but didn't stop him(bad sensei)

You forget naruto, apart from rasengan that jiraiya taught him, kakashi/yamato helped him with RS, though the foundation was rasengan. Km/bm mode was bee, along with kushina/yamato's help. But bee was the main person, along with the elemts needed for tbb and chakra arms.

Konan developed her origami techniques herself and jiraiya even praised her for coming this far with the technique when they met. Yahiko he died early so not much is known. As for nagato, he taught himself the rinnegan's technique, though im certain Tobi contributed. Either way when it comes to rinnegan abilities, it wasnt jiraiya. You cannot say hiruzen didnt teach so and so this and that and not acknowledge that this same logic applies to jiraiya aswell.

But if you take Jiraiya he taught Nagato,Yahiko and konan and when he found out they have turned bad he fought Konan then pain to the death .... after that also naruto only convinced nagato using Jiraiya's ideology.... in a sense Jiraiya was responsible for most of Nagato,Konan and yahiko being OP and turning good
Yes naruto had kakashi's training and bee's help but Naruto being who he is now also bcos of Jman's Ideology ....

i'm not denying what you have posted ....but i'm denying the way you judge a sensei by only the amount of OP jutsu they teach to their students ...

Not the amount of op techs, thought i made it clear. Ill say it again. The student's talent before they met the teacher and the time it took the teacher to get them from how they were to where they are. Sorry but in the 3 year duration, sakura and sasuke has improved more than naruto, that is something that you cannot deny. Anyway its because of this that, i dont rate jiraiya any where close to being the best sensei. I look at the facts and when they dont add up i disagree.

Anyway i need to get moving though so ill take my leave. We just have different interpretations on what a teacher is though so ill leave it at that. Besides there is no 'correct' answer

 

[IIB7252]

Probably the worst poll I've ever seen. Leaving out people like Danzo and Hiruzen, who probably taught most people overall in Konoha, but with 2 different ideals in their teachings. Another thing is Madara... Who the **** did he teach? Obito? He taught him very little compared to the rest. He just used him, and gave him the teaching needed to fulfill Madaras plans..

What about shinobi from other villages? Mu taught Onoki a lot of sick stuff for instance.. Onoki also must have taught a lot, for instance only a few people can fly..

What about Bee? He taught Naruto a lot, and he also has 3 students.....

Baki taught the sand siblings? Though little is known they are all kage / jonin levels..

You are right brother I haven't included them... The reason was very little is known about them thats y...

 

[enuzuki]

wow...Alot of people support pervy sage which isn't a surprise, but think about it...What did he really do? He trained naruto for 3 years! And improved his skills all around but he didn't really get him above chuunin lvl. I know that all three of his students are at kage lvl but i he the cause? I might be over analysing it, but if a kindegarden teacher teach you the basics, can he take credit for your PhD?

 

[Hori]

Kakashi is the worst sensei because he didn't pay much attention to Naruto until Sasuke left, right he always played favourites which was Sasuke

For Jiraiya He's the best sensei, he is able to realise his student's abilities and teaches them what they can master, For sure Jiraiya knew that he can't teach Naruto the nature elements because he won't master them because the Kyuubi would interfere. Now Jiraiya knew Naruto has high chakra reserves and he used that and taught him the Rasengan which needs pure chakra, and he knew he can use it better because he will use more of his chakra to the rasengan.. Well with Nagato, Minato, Konan and Yahiko.. I think he did a great job

 

[thegame]

You are right brother I haven't included them... The reason was very little is known about them thats y...

Good reason..... But yet you take Madara who we know even less about... At least we know that Hiruzen was the best at all your initial premises for being the best:

1) How to use the chakra.
2)how to learn to be a good person.
3)how to guide them have brief.
4)how to improve their students.

None beats Hiruzen in any of these.. And we know enough about him, to know that his teachings and beliefs have been taken on by every sensei in Konoha since he became Hokage. Every strong shinobi has some sort of connection to him through the 3 legendary sanins.

 

[Anakin Skywalker]

You forget naruto, apart from rasengan that jiraiya taught him, kakashi/yamato helped him with RS, though the foundation was rasengan. Km/bm mode was bee, along with kushina/yamato's help. But bee was the main person, along with the elemts needed for tbb and chakra arms.

Konan developed her origami techniques herself and jiraiya even praised her for coming this far with the technique when they met. Yahiko he died early so not much is known. As for nagato, he taught himself the rinnegan's technique, though im certain Tobi contributed. Either way when it comes to rinnegan abilities, it wasnt jiraiya. You cannot say hiruzen didnt teach so and so this and that and not acknowledge that this same logic applies to jiraiya aswell.

Not the amount of op techs, thought i made it clear. Ill say it again. The student's talent before they met the teacher and the time it took the teacher to get them from how they were to where they are. Sorry but in the 3 year duration, sakura and sasuke has improved more than naruto, that is something that you cannot deny. Anyway its because of this that, i dont rate jiraiya any where close to being the best sensei. I look at the facts and when they dont add up i disagree.

Anyway i need to get moving though so ill take my leave. We just have different interpretations on what a teacher is though so ill leave it at that. Besides there is no 'correct' answer

you shouldn't have split the post .... i've clearly mentioned Naruto had help from bee and kakashi
this is my exact line "Yes naruto had kakashi's training and bee's help but Naruto being who he is now also bcos of Jman's Ideology"

again i mentioned Hizuren bcos he failed to stop Orochimaru from being evil

@bold ... The student's talent before they met the teacher and the time it took the teacher to get them from how they were to where they are.

this is what i disagree on.... you are judging the sensei
1.on the time it took to teach a student
2.the talent b4 training
3.talent after training
^^^^ correct me if i'm wrong in this

while i judge a sensei on
1.how he influenced the student's life
2.the students overall attitude toward the world

based on my criteria which is also more compatible with this thread's OP

jiraiya successfully influenced a positive attitude on the life of Naruto,Minato on the first try
when konan,nagato (yahiko was already dead) turned bad jiraiya tried to stop them but died then Naruto used Jiraiya's ideology to change nagato and Konan into good side

so indirectly Jiraiya influenced all his 5 students to be in a positive attitude in life and be good guys

if you take Hiruzen for eg Hiruzen influnced positive thoughts into Jiraiya and Tsunade but failed in Orochimaru's(though its not Hiruzen's fault)
But Hiruzen had an second chance to convince Orochimaru when he was caught in his hideout during the flash back but Hiruzen didn't try to stop him
Then Hiruzen had a third chance during chunin exam fight again failed to convince oro and had to use RDS to seal him and oro's hands

and if you take Madara

he never intended to give obito positive attitudes and make obito a good guy .... indirectly he was using Obito to carry out his plans so madara helped obito get stronget in the shortest amount of time

i cannot explain this any better ...

and yes there is no correct answer we have different views

 

[Simple Math]

I would say Jman

 

[IIB7252]

Sorry my mistake I should have included HIRUZEN in the poll as well...I totally forget about him Sorry Brother...:-(
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I have already accepted that I forgot about HIRUZEN...Read my earlier comments sweetheart...

Good reason..... But yet you take Madara who we know even less about... At least we know that Hiruzen was the best at all your initial premises for being the best:

1) How to use the chakra.
2)how to learn to be a good person.
3)how to guide them have brief.
4)how to improve their students.

None beats Hiruzen in any of these.. And we know enough about him, to know that his teachings and beliefs have been taken on by every sensei in Konoha since he became Hokage. Every strong shinobi has some sort of connection to him through the 3 legendary sanins.

 

[Blaze Release]

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you shouldn't have split the post .... i've clearly mentioned Naruto had help from bee and kakashi
this is my exact line "Yes naruto had kakashi's training and bee's help but Naruto being who he is now also bcos of Jman's Ideology"

again i mentioned Hizuren bcos he failed to stop Orochimaru from being evil

@bold ... The student's talent before they met the teacher and the time it took the teacher to get them from how they were to where they are.

this is what i disagree on.... you are judging the sensei
1.on the time it took to teach a student
2.the talent b4 training
3.talent after training
^^^^ correct me if i'm wrong in this

while i judge a sensei on
1.how he influenced the student's life
2.the students overall attitude toward the world

based on my criteria which is also more compatible with this thread's OP

jiraiya successfully influenced a positive attitude on the life of Naruto,Minato on the first try
when konan,nagato (yahiko was already dead) turned bad jiraiya tried to stop them but died then Naruto used Jiraiya's ideology to change nagato and Konan into good side

so indirectly Jiraiya influenced all his 5 students to be in a positive attitude in life and be good guys

if you take Hiruzen for eg Hiruzen influnced positive thoughts into Jiraiya and Tsunade but failed in Orochimaru's(though its not Hiruzen's fault)
But Hiruzen had an second chance to convince Orochimaru when he was caught in his hideout during the flash back but Hiruzen didn't try to stop him
Then Hiruzen had a third chance during chunin exam fight again failed to convince oro and had to use RDS to seal him and oro's hands

and if you take Madara

he never intended to give obito positive attitudes and make obito a good guy .... indirectly he was using Obito to carry out his plans so madara helped obito get stronget in the shortest amount of time

i cannot explain this any better ...

and yes there is no correct answer we have different views

I had to come back because i believe we are all sleeping on somebody. First of all nice post though ive read im not going to counter because we have different views. What we both agree on is that there is no right or wrong answer and whilst ive acknowledged how madara turned obito into a nobody into somebody, i believe the person above madara is Iruka, yes Iruka somebody that people seem to troll by saying he would remain a chunnin forever xd, but also i never see him in when people talk about best teacher.

First of all he fits into all our categories of a best teacher. I believe a students talent and time duration, you believe in morals but also you naming all of jiraiya's students also hints that you believe in number of students. Well Iruka fits both of our categories.

Student's talent, sure there were geniuses who were good before they came into the academy, however there were other's not so much and needed help. Time duration, differ's some spend 1 year whilst others spend more. He has trained more ninja's than anybody and his morals roots from hashirama's morals and that of the leaf itself.

The academy trains ninja's in the basic, ninjutsu ability. Like henge, bunshin, Kawarimi jutsu's.
Basic ability in taijutsu and shuirkenjutsu along with basic understanding on genjutsu

Actually i believe Iruka, yes Iruka is the closest to being the 'right' answer. Madara takes second though, whilst Tsunade takes third, i forgot that shizune another of tsunade's apprentice is a great medic

 

[thegame]

I have already accepted that I forgot about HIRUZEN...Read my earlier comments sweetheart...

And that is when I say, One does not simply forget about Hiruzen U_U he is without doubt the best sensei, and the one who influenced most senseis throughout Konoha. Iruka get his ideals from Hiru. All students that become genins will have some of his ideals, so they will basically have the 3rds ideals as well..

Jiraya has his ideals

Minato has Jirayas

Kakashi has Minatos,

And Naruto has Kakashi/Jirayas thus making it Minato/Hiruzens as well. Then comes Bee, who got his ideals from the 4th and thus the 3rd raikage.. Also he has ideals from Yamato and Fukasaka as well. Even Nagato left something for his beliefs, which again comes from Jiraya.

So one may deduce Hiru to be the overall most influential sensei in Konoha. Naruto might surpass him though.. But none other comes within his range... U_U

 

[Anakin Skywalker]

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I had to come back because i believe we are all sleeping on somebody. First of all nice post though ive read im not going to counter because we have different views. What we both agree on is that there is no right or wrong answer and whilst ive acknowledged how madara turned obito into a nobody into somebody, i believe the person above madara is Iruka, yes Iruka somebody that people seem to troll by saying he would remain a chunnin forever xd, but also i never see him in when people talk about best teacher.

First of all he fits into all our categories of a best teacher. I believe a students talent and time duration, you believe in morals but also you naming all of jiraiya's students also hints that you believe in number of students. Well Iruka fits both of our categories.

Student's talent, sure there were geniuses who were good before they came into the academy, however there were other's not so much and needed help. Time duration, differ's some spend 1 year whilst others spend more. He has trained more ninja's than anybody and his morals roots from hashirama's morals and that of the leaf itself.

The academy trains ninja's in the basic, ninjutsu ability. Like henge, bunshin, Kawarimi jutsu's.
Basic ability in taijutsu and shuirkenjutsu along with basic understanding on genjutsu

Actually i believe Iruka, yes Iruka is the closest to being the 'right' answer. Madara takes second though, whilst Tsunade takes third, i forgot that shizune another of tsunade's apprentice is a great medic

Mind Blown .....
yes .... he taught 12 persons to our knowledge and 11 of them are good guys and carrying the will of fire
only 1 i.e sasuke strayed away

good find

 

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