so was hiruzen stronger than madara and hirashima

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I was looking at something that said hiruzen (in his prime) was the strongest hokage the leaf ever had so doesnt that mean he was stronger than both madar and hirashima:confused:
 

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Well they say that he was but we can't be certain because we haven't actually seen any of them in their prime. The fight at the valley of the end has been shown in the new game and it shows hashirama and madara possess extreme power that would be hard for hiruzen to surpass
 

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Well they say that he was but we can't be certain because we haven't actually seen any of them in their prime. The fight at the valley of the end has been shown in the new game and it shows hashirama and madara possess extreme power that would be hard for hiruzen to surpass
You can't go off that Game Clip.

It's got nothing to do with the Manga.
 

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Well they say that he was but we can't be certain because we haven't actually seen any of them in their prime. The fight at the valley of the end has been shown in the new game and it shows hashirama and madara possess extreme power that would be hard for hiruzen to surpass
that "fight" made hashirama and madara look weak.
 
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