narutownsyouall
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im sorry but your trying to say that Haruzen isn't stronger than Hashirama even though it has been stated and I know your an avid Itachi fanboy who constantly downplays Hashirama all the time with no proof.
so was hiruzen stronger than madara and hirashima
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Blaze Release
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The next generation theme in my eyes is used as a tool to inspire pupils at the academy. If you look at the facts the next generation do not surpass the previous.
Example the uchiha clan of the past during the days of the senju would easily defeat the uchiha clan that itachi and tobi slaughtered.
Next a fodder during the time of constant war where there a need to get stronger, will defeat a current fodder.
Now you have hailed hiruzen as the strongest hokage and now in your post tried to bring up the next gen surpassing the previous nonsense. But if thats true and thats what you believe then you are contracditing yourself. It thats what you belief then you should be saying minato or perhaps tsunade is the strongest hokage.
Add the fact that the previous kages wouldve done so much better than the current kages, that statement about current gen surpassing the previous shouldnt be taken seriously. If anything applies to a handful of ninja's
I didnt say hiruzen was stronger than hashirama :flaw:.
Downplay Hashirama?. He is actually joint with hiruzen as my favourite kage, but also i dont down play his abilities. :shrug:
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kellzfresh
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The problem is that Sarutobi is the only hokage that was said to be the "strongest hokage". Hashirama was said to be a fairy tale and strongest at his time, Minato had the potential to surpass but he died early and was said to be a genius. But sarutobi was said to be the "Strongest hokage", only him was directly compared to the other hokages and iruka, databook and even kabuto told orochimaru that he is the strongest. :shrug:
I dont know why but i personally think that hashirama and minato are stronger.
I dont know why but i personally think that hashirama and minato are stronger.
MadaraHashirama
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yep ur right bro hiruzen pwns sosp because he is also a god of shinonbi hes just absolutely flawless so he doesnt need kkg the power of george michael is much more better herpppp
edo tensai wilmaso
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Manga did.
Minato would've surpassed him had he not died so young, i'm sure of that. Tsunade is not actually the next gen, she was the gen before Minato. Plus, Kishi trolls chicks so don't take her too seriously.
Either way, manga has said what it has said, don't see why so many people have a problem accepting it.
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MadaraHashirama
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i don't even see the points of these threads anymore if you have people thinking hiruzen pwns everyone excluding sosp, whats there to debate about?
i have stopped taking so many people serious and i have stopped even caring about these overused threads all the time, move on make a new interesting thread instead of hanging on 1 thing the whole time
i have stopped taking so many people serious and i have stopped even caring about these overused threads all the time, move on make a new interesting thread instead of hanging on 1 thing the whole time
narutownsyouall
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That doesn't make sense. Tsunade was the generation before Minato. And the only reason the Uchiha clan would not be stronger than the previous one is because it was not living in a war torn land.
If Minato had lived longer he would have been much stronger than Haruzen but he didn't so...
Naruto surpassed Jariya and Minato
Sasuke surpassed Oro and almost Itachi
The next generation will eventually surpass the last.
Blaze Release
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Im the type to get annoyed when i keep on hearing the same thing over and over again especially when the people for that thing bring up very little evidence. The manga has said a whole load of nonsense, yes nonsense that shouldnt be taken seriously. From people's opinion, to false hype, liars.
Im not necessarily disagreeing, but once i keep on hearing the same old argument which to me isnt enough to warrant hiruzen the strongest hokage title i get slightly annoyed.
Im not here to discuss this next generation nonsense. Just saying if you look at the facts its more of an inspiration tool
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Blaze Release
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The Hidden Shinobi
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He might of been he was pretty impressive in the fight against orochimaru and that's when he was very old.
narutownsyouall
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you said this less than 20 minutes ago so....Hiruzen fan boys are starting to get annoying. Imo hahsirama and ems madara shits on prime hiruzen. Whatever that is
TrollingSage
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Drakengard
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Basic answer: We don't know
It's possible that he could be, as it was said earlier in the manga and the DB. Kishi may choose to stick to that, or lead back into the Hashirama and Madara hype and make them the big bad-asses.
It's possible that he could be, as it was said earlier in the manga and the DB. Kishi may choose to stick to that, or lead back into the Hashirama and Madara hype and make them the big bad-asses.
