So Sasuke got the Rinne Sharingan, not Rinnegan

[Dragon Master]

Sasuke = Super Rinnegan
Kaguya/Juubi = Infinite Sharingan

 

[xxSAGExx]

And Madara disagree with that lol. It like saying you can't use ninjustsu without weaving signs. That is like saying you can't pray without your hands. It all come from your inner-self. You just gotta harness it like Madara.

That's Madara, and even then he had both of his eyes in the area since right after using Susanoo Zetsu popped up with one of his eyes and his other eye was a short distance away with Obito. Obito showed you can connect to your eyes when he could see what Kakashi could see while a good distance away and he even leveled up both eyes even though the other wasn't in his eye socket. So what makes you think Madara didn't tap into his eyes the same way to use Susanoo. Susanoo is the 3rd MS jutsu that uses both eyes as Itachi and Sasuke said and Madara wasn't blind in the sense his eyes lost their vision but in him not having his eyes with him so unless he tapped into his eyes power as I said, he has no other way of using Susanoo. That's like saying he can use all Doujutsus without eyes

 

[Venomous Cobra]

It's the same as Kaguya's. Like I told you.

and yeah thats just her rinngan special ability , its similar but not the same, databook states them as completely different techs

 

[shelke]

and yeah thats just her rinngan special ability , its similar but not the same, databook states them as completely different techs

It's the chakra usage that makes it different. in the manga, Kaguya's sharingan was called a Rinnegan as well. Similarly, other than Susano'o, Madara hasn't used any other MS / EMS tech, such as genjutsu. Which makes Sasuke's Rinnegan automatically different.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

It's the chakra usage that makes it different. in the manga, Kaguya's sharingan was called a Rinnegan as well. Similarly, other than Susano'o, Madara hasn't used any other MS / EMS tech, such as genjutsu. Which makes Sasuke's Rinnegan automatically different.

Infinity tskuyomi

 

[shelke]

Infinity tskuyomi

That is a Rinne-Sharingan ability, not Rinnegan's. I was talking about Madara's Rinnegan only. Madara did not have that until he didn't absorb the Holy Tree. Which is why I said that Sasuke's isn't a Rinnegan, because of the super imposition of two Tomoe rings. But it isn't the later either, as it's missing one ring to make it complete or turn it into Rinne-Sharingan.

That was my point.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

That is a Rinne-Sharingan ability, not Rinnegan's. I was talking about Madara's Rinnegan only. Madara did not have that until he didn't absorb the Holy Tree. Which is why I said that Sasuke's isn't a Rinnegan, because of the super imposition of two Tomoe rings. But it isn't the later either, as it's missing one ring to make it complete or turn it into Rinne-Sharingan.

That was my point.

ehhhhhh your theory is really possible but as long as you realize that it aint a rinnsharingan then whatever

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

When will Sasuke's scum fans understand to stop the overused masturbation?

Manga and databook made it clear that Sasuke's ''eye'' is a Rinnegan. It's coloured purple, it has 6 tomoes. Rinne Sharingan is coloured red, it has 9 tomoes. That is the difference between them. Also, a reference to the combined abilities of Sharingan and Rinnegan, that is a natural ability for a Rinnegan user to access to his/her Sharingan powers as well: Madara showed to use his Sharingan and Rinnegan together via Tengai Shensei. But back to topic, Sasuke's eye is a Rinnegan...

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If it's a natural ability for a Rinnegan user to have access to their Sharingan powers,then why did Madara switch to his EMS in order to use Genjutsu on the Raikage?

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Sasuke didn't have to switch to his EMS in order to use Genjutsu.

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The only Sharingan ability Madara showed with his Rinnegan was Susano'o,but then again,Susano'o can be used with no eyes.Based on facts,Sasuke is the only one who can use both Rinnegan and Sharingan Techniques with his Rinnegan.

Facts show Madara can't considering he switched to EMS for Genjutsu,which the Sharingan is famous for.

i dont really know anybody with the volumes, so is this going to be?

You could make a thread asking.i think it was in volume 49.

 

[shelke]

ehhhhhh your theory is really possible but as long as you realize that it aint a rinnsharingan then whatever

I never said it was. I said it was very very close to it though, as it's only missing one ring of three Tomoes. It already has two with six of them.

 

[Nagi]

That's Madara, and even then he had both of his eyes in the area since right after using Susanoo Zetsu popped up with one of his eyes and his other eye was a short distance away with Obito. Obito showed you can connect to your eyes when he could see what Kakashi could see while a good distance away and he even leveled up both eyes even though the other wasn't in his eye socket. So what makes you think Madara didn't tap into his eyes the same way to use Susanoo. Susanoo is the 3rd MS jutsu that uses both eyes as Itachi and Sasuke said and Madara wasn't blind in the sense his eyes lost their vision but in him not having his eyes with him so unless he tapped into his eyes power as I said, he has no other way of using Susanoo. That's like saying he can use all Doujutsus without eyes

Susanoo is made of the user's special chakra from the brain. It is possible to have access to that special chakra in your brain without the MS once awaken it. Double MS simply open the door to use Susanoo. You don't need MS anymore to use Susanoo after you open the door. But you do need MS to use Genjutsu or amaterasu.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Susanoo is made of the user's special chakra from the brain. It is possible to have access to that special chakra in your brain without the MS once awaken it. Double MS simply open the door to use Susanoo. You don't need MS anymore to use Susanoo after you open the door. But you do need MS to use Genjutsu or amaterasu.

You need MS for Susanoo as much for any other eye power. You focus that special chakra through your eyes to active tge MS Jutsus such as Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, KA, Kamui, ect... This is why EMS Sasuke's Susanoo went away after Kabuto's white noise caused him to close his eyes from te bright light and lose focus from the sound. Same with Kabuto's sound Genjutsu making Sasuke and Edo Itachi to lose focus and their Susanoo went away. They fact you need both eyes to use Susanoo shows you need both eyes. Sasuke, a Susanoo user, said you need both eyes for it, not to awaken it but to use it. Itachi says one eye uses Amaterasu, the other Tsukuyomi, and both for Susanoo. Obito showed he can transmit the special chakra in Uchihas brain through his eye that Kakashi had a good distance away yet you don't think Madara who mastered the Sharingan beyond anyone else can't transmit the power of both his eyes that were near him in a similar fashion?

 

[Nagi]

You need MS for Susanoo as much for any other eye power. You focus that special chakra through your eyes to active tge MS Jutsus such as Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, KA, Kamui, ect... This is why EMS Sasuke's Susanoo went away after Kabuto's white noise caused him to close his eyes from te bright light and lose focus from the sound. Same with Kabuto's sound Genjutsu making Sasuke and Edo Itachi to lose focus and their Susanoo went away. They fact you need both eyes to use Susanoo shows you need both eyes. Sasuke, a Susanoo user, said you need both eyes for it, not to awaken it but to use it. Itachi says one eye uses Amaterasu, the other Tsukuyomi, and both for Susanoo. Obito showed he can transmit the special chakra in Uchihas brain through his eye that Kakashi had a good distance away yet you don't think Madara who mastered the Sharingan beyond anyone else can't transmit the power of both his eyes that were near him in a similar fashion?

Yes for jutsu(s) that require eyes contact.....Susanoo do not need eyes contact.

Unless you can prove to me that sharingan have it OWN SOURCE of chakra, you're wrong.

Beside it clearly stated in the wiki that a person can use it without double MS once you awaken the ability to use Susanoo.

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[xxSAGExx]

Yes for jutsu(s) that require eyes contact.....Susanoo do not need eyes contact.

Unless you can prove to me that sharingan have it OWN SOURCE of chakra, you're wrong.

Beside it clearly stated in the wiki that a person can use it without double MS once you awaken the ability to use Susanoo.

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That means only Tsukuyomi falls in that category since that's the only one you need eye contact with the victim. Amaterasu, KA, Enton-Kagutsuchi, and Kamui works by building up the needed chakra to the eye then focusing on the target while also using the skills to use the jutsus. As for the Sharingan having its own chakra, Orochimaru said he sensed more power in Sasuke's eyes that surpass Itachi's, Ao used the Byakugan to see Shisui's chakra surrounding Shisui's eye during the Kage summit, Obito mentions not being able to handle the sage chakra in the Rinnegan he had and said he couldn't use both eyes. These examples all show chakra in the eyes.

That says Susanoo cause strain to eyes and body as we seen from MS Sasuke and MS Itachi, the side effect doesn't affect Sasuke after he gets the EMS. You do know wiki can be altered by anyone right? Also you can't show anyone using Susanoo without MS, people were saying Sasuke used it without MS against Kabuto and Obito and they were wrong so anyone of them could have done it. MS Sasuke Susanoo went out after his Sharingan reached its limit of blindness where as Itachi who didn't spam his MS as much as Sasuke was able to use it just as his MS limit is reached.

 

[Nagi]

That means only Tsukuyomi falls in that category since that's the only one you need eye contact with the victim. Amaterasu, KA, Enton-Kagutsuchi, and Kamui works by building up the needed chakra to the eye then focusing on the target while also using the skills to use the jutsus. As for the Sharingan having its own chakra, Orochimaru said he sensed more power in Sasuke's eyes that surpass Itachi's, Ao used the Byakugan to see Shisui's chakra surrounding Shisui's eye during the Kage summit, Obito mentions not being able to handle the sage chakra in the Rinnegan he had and said he couldn't use both eyes. These examples all show chakra in the eyes.

That says Susanoo cause strain to eyes and body as we seen from MS Sasuke and MS Itachi, the side effect doesn't affect Sasuke after he gets the EMS. You do know wiki can be altered by anyone right? Also you can't show anyone using Susanoo without MS, people were saying Sasuke used it without MS against Kabuto and Obito and they were wrong so anyone of them could have done it. MS Sasuke Susanoo went out after his Sharingan reached its limit of blindness where as Itachi who didn't spam his MS as much as Sasuke was able to use it just as his MS limit is reached.

You half right and half wrong. Itachi was basically blind at the end of the fight and was still using susanoo. Sasuke lost all focus when his light went out. he basically forgot about what was going on in the moment to deal with the pain for a second. The manga is done. There is so much information in the manga that clearly contradict itself. At the end of the day you only need double MS to awake Susanoo, but don't need double MS to use Susanoo after.

 

[Omar19992010]

The Rinne Sharingan is the forehead eye Madara and Kaguya have. Sasuke has a Rinnegan with Tomoes so that means he doesn't have to switch from EMS to Rinnegan to use the different abilities of each eye.

 

[adeshina365]

Sasuke's Rinnegan is somewhere in-between the regular one and the Rinnesharingan. Amenotejikara is proof of that.

 

[xxSAGExx]

You half right and half wrong. Itachi was basically blind at the end of the fight and was still using susanoo. Sasuke lost all focus when his light went out. he basically forgot about what was going on in the moment to deal with the pain for a second. The manga is done. There is so much information in the manga that clearly contradict itself. At the end of the day you only need double MS to awake Susanoo, but don't need double MS to use Susanoo after.

Itachi was able to do that because he doesn't spam his MS, he had his MS for about 8 years where as Sasuke went blind in like a week after getting it. Since the moment you awaken MS you begin to lose your sight and using the MS makes you lose it even faster as you cause strain in your eyes as you use MS jutsus or even genjutsus in Sasuke case. Susanoo uses both eyes so it loses your vision faster as Sasuke was spamming Susanoo the most the Amaterasu and Enton with some MS genjutsu. Nothing in the manga shows you could use Susanoo without having MS+. Itachi still had his MS powers as he was losing his vision and we saw Sasuke actually reach that limit which caused him pain and cut off all doujutsu abilities. I agree there are things that contradict in the manga but Susanoo needing both eyes is not one of the things that was contradicted as I explained in both Sasuke's and Itachi's cases and Madara's eye both had power in them and both were in the area around him and we see Obito transmit his Uchiha brain chakra to his eye that wasn't even in his head and was connected to said eye to see thru it