So Naruto is just blatantly ripping off Star Wars?

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Me too, the books and the movies. Oh and Ginny always being shy and idolizing Harry, that's like Hinata with Naruto.
Hahaha your right ...
That's goo observation skills I'd never thought of that
 

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Oh yes, everyone takes something from something else. That's how it is with many stories.

It's funny, the only way to make a completely original story would either to be completely insane, or very high.
 

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It's funny, the only way to make a completely original story would either to be completely insane, or very high.

They are plenty of original stories, they are just not popular. For movies, Hollywood only likes ones that will sell and appeal to the general public, not movies that only a few will understand.

Shonen Jump is the same way.
 

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Hahaha your right ...
That's goo observation skills I'd never thought of that

When I bought the box set recently my mum and I spent hours pointing out the similarities. It was fun!

It's funny, the only way to make a completely original story would either to be completely insane, or very high.

That's very true. lol
 

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When I bought the box set recently my mum and I spent hours pointing out the similarities. It was fun!
Your mom's a naruto fan !?

Yep, she even said Guy wouldn't die and Obito would save Sakura. lol She was right and that was before the chapters came out. She's a very observant woman and likes the series. Neji is her fav character.
 

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As if Star Wars didn't mirror the bible in some way. Skywalker didn't have a father, his mother was conceived through midi-chlorians. He was also referred to as the chosen one, the one who will bring balance.

Originality doesn't exist.

The chosen one trope is surely the only Biblical allusion between Jesus Christ and Anakin Skywalker you could pull, seeing as Jesus never fell to the Dark Side over a woman and was never manipulated by an evil old man, and that is basically the life story of Anakin.

Originality does exist. Surely, in popular culture, there are remakes, parodies, and overall extended metaphors, but to say originality does not exist is ignorant to the possibility of someone creating something new. I mean, the very first story ever created was original, logically, right?

Actually in truth every type of story has already been told, every new book, movie, TV show, comic, or manga (or any other form of story telling) is just the same old story being told in a new way.

For example, look at the Matrix, humanity is nearly destroyed by machines gone rogue, the same story is used in the Terminator, I Robot, and about a gazillion other stories.

Then their is the Last Samurai story line, also used in Avatar, Ferngully, Pocahantus, Dances with Wolves, and a thousand other stories.

Then their is the super hero story line, every super hero movie and comic is the same story just told a little differently, the hero gets his power and beats up a bad guy that also has powers.

Every super hero movie is a beating up a bad guy who has powers? Quite broad, no? How about I rephrase this little answer:

"Then there* is the romantic story line, every romantic movie and comic is the same story just told a little different, the guy falls in love and the girl also falls in love."

I hope you see my point in why what you said was just foolish.
 

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The chosen one trope is surely the only Biblical allusion between Jesus Christ and Anakin Skywalker you could pull, seeing as Jesus never fell to the Dark Side over a woman and was never manipulated by an evil old man, and that is basically the life story of Anakin.

Originality does exist. Surely, in popular culture, there are remakes, parodies, and overall extended metaphors, but to say originality does not exist is ignorant to the possibility of someone creating something new. I mean, the very first story ever created was original, logically, right?

Hmm, in a way you're correct. I guess it boils down to perception? On Anakin's brink of destruction, he fell to the dark side. When Jesus was dying of crucifixion, he had doubts and questioned God himself. I personally view this as a parallel, but I could see the possible logic behind thinking differently.

As for my originality claim, it was merely a hyperbole. Of course every idea has it's origins, originality just doesn't exist in the masses.
 

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Realisitcally though, everything is a rip off of everything. The only original stories of mankind are the odyssey and the bible

Seriously, I could find so many parallels between Naruto and either one of these
 

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Lol, this is kind of true, Darth vadar (Obito) even turns good in the end lol
 

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I mean, you already had the Obito/Darth Vader connections, and Madara mirrors the Emperor, but now they even mention the dark side? Wow, just, wow, Kishi, oh well, I LOVE STAR WARS ANYWAYS!!!!!

Please stop making it sound like George Lucas invented the fallen hero and dark side archetypes. He didn't. They were renowned and popular themes of both eastern and western fiction long before he was born. And if you really want to get literal, many believe Star Wars rips off Lord of the Rings.

How does Madara compare to the emperor? The Yin lightning? Kakashi has shot chidori from his hand since the very first arc of the series. Manipulation? Central antagonists in fiction are renowned for being manipulative.

Lastly, there is a difference between ripping something off and being inspired by it.
 

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The "dark side" is a common term for "evil" nowadays, I don't see your point.
 

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I remember Kishi mentioning Star Wars in one of his interviews.
 

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I knew Kishi was doing this way before all of u thought about it before the latest chapter. It was confirmed when Kishimoto had that interview that he stated he watched a lot of popular movies...I was like yup, he got great ideas from star wars, harry potter, spider-man, etc...
 

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Harry (no family but meets their ghosts later and his mum protects him), Ron and Hermione are like Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura.

Harry wasn't a drop out or a pariah like Naruto. He was skilled and revered at hogwarts. And neither Ron nor Harry go bad. They have disagreements and Ron get's jealous once or twice. That's all. Hermione and Sakura's personalities and roles are quite different as well.

Voldemort could be a combination of Orochimaru and Madara, since he was snake-like suddenly revived from the dead, and stole bodies.

Both Orochimaru and Madara originally had virtuous goals. Voldemort was just an evil, power hungry sorcerer who wanted to rule the world. Furthermore, he shares no parallelism with any of the main characters.

Snape would be like Itachi. He begged Dumbledore to save Lily and turned spy saying no one could know, like Itachi begged the Third to spare Sasuke. He was viewed a traitor but was on the good guys side all along.

I'll somewhat give you that one. But Snape for the most part wasn't portrayed as a villain until the last two books. Itachi was portrayed as one throughout all of part one and half of part 2. Even further, Snape really wasn't bad at all while many could argue that Itachi still wasn't all good.

I could go on.

Please do.

Oh and Ginny always being shy and idolizing Harry, that's like Hinata with Naruto.

I don't recall Ginny having a long term crush on Harry, and even if she did, it was not foreshadowed. Hinata's crush on Naruto was given when she was introduced. And again, Ginny's story and personality in no way compares Hinata. She isn't emotionally weak, has no Neji equivalent and is instead just the secondary protagonist's sister.
 

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Harry wasn't a drop out or a pariah like Naruto. He was skilled and revered at hogwarts. And neither Ron nor Harry go bad. They have disagreements and Ron get's jealous once or twice. That's all. Hermione and Sakura's personalities and roles are quite different as well.



Both Orochimaru and Madara originally had virtuous goals. Voldemort was just an evil, power hungry sorcerer who wanted to rule the world. Furthermore, he shares no parallelism with any of the main characters.



I'll somewhat give you that one. But Snape for the most part wasn't portrayed as a villain until the last two books. Itachi was portrayed as one throughout all of part one and half of part 2. Even further, Snape really wasn't bad at all while many could argue that Itachi still wasn't all good.



Please do.



I don't recall Ginny having a long term crush on Harry, and even if she did, it was not foreshadowed. Hinata's crush on Naruto was given when she was introduced. And again, Ginny's story and personality in no way compares Hinata. She isn't emotionally weak, has no Neji equivalent and is instead just the secondary protagonist's sister.

I think you're reading too deeply into it. Similarities don't mean an exact replica.
 

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Least vader had better reasons to go ape $($,' and was a better character than obito
 

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The way you're looking at it is a Jedi mind trick on yourself, you can make that comparison with just about any story. You need to look at the dynamics of the relationships they are quite unique that's not to say that Kishi isn't inspired by a lot of things but you can't see the forest for the trees instead of looking at the similarities look at the differences
 
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