So, God really does not exist.

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Made me lmao so hard. Yea, right.

These rules also teach that if you do certain actions, people can look down upon you. How is that caring? :|

1. If you are referring to the large number of "religious" terrorists, they do not properly their religion. Al-Qaeda brake almost every Islamic rule of peace. They use religion as a way of brain washing people to do their bidding and support them.

2. The rules come with sanctions. Only God may properly judge - others should not look down on another human being (although I'm sure everyone on Earth does it, this is part of God's test IMO).
 

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listen their have been many religouns that have been made by man but do you know the main religouns in the world is montheism and that is islam,christanity and judaism so you can find the truth in one of them but christanity is based on pure lies that christans just belive no matter what and judaism is a racist religoun you might be suprised what they say about non jews stuff like we are created to be slaves for them and islam is really the only peaceful and logical one just look down on my sig
 

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Wrong.
The "God of holes" is a concept frowned upon by atheists and believers alike. Atheists say that just because we don't know something YET doesn't mean that it's directly God's work. And they're right. Believers say that a universe that's not self-sufficient and requires additional God's help to function is not perfect and therefore such a world could not be created by perfect God. This is correct, as well.

Religion is not about covering the holes in science with God. It's much deeper than that. Religion is not to explain things, religion is to provide guidance. The fact that you don't seem to understand this further implies that in fact, you never believed in God.

I said earlier that god has helped guide other people to another person. I have intact believed in god and used the bible to help shape the characteristics of my life. My mannerisms, the way i behave, and the way i used to think, it was all the bible. But after i saw this a few months ago, i started to think, then delved into physical cosmology. I did not instant become an atheist, the video just opened the door, i walked into that door on my own, i was craving knowledge, i wanted answers, and i got them. Do i was still a catholic, yes. Americans frown upon atheists. Just because we have different views does not make us a bad person. We could say the same about christians, but i don't. I have high respect for other peoples views, i just have my own.
 

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Who made this guidance?
Humans.
It's a way to control people. Nothing more, nothing less.

It's atheists' opinion that it was humans who created this guidance. Some think otherwise, and no side can prove the other wrong.

But no matter who created it - yes, it's true that religion was used to control people in the past. But so was atheism - think of Stalin as an example, or any communist country, even present.
Religion was used to control, yes, but it was never religion's purpose. You cannot argue with the fact that it's religion that gives some people strength to live another day, and in general - makes them often more optimistic - because they believe. And even if God is not proved scientifically, placebo is pretty much a fact - your thoughts affect your physical condition.

I said earlier that god has helped guide other people to another person. I have intact believed in god and used the bible to help shape the characteristics of my life. My mannerisms, the way i behave, and the way i used to think, it was all the bible. But after i saw this a few months ago, i started to think, then delved into physical cosmology. I did not instant become an atheist, the video just opened the door, i walked into that door on my own, i was craving knowledge, i wanted answers, and i got them. Do i was still a catholic, yes. Americans frown upon atheists. Just because we have different views does not make us a bad person. We could say the same about christians, but i don't. I have high respect for other peoples views, i just have my own.

Maybe you're trying not to look down at believers, but the fact that you earlier stated that "you thought it was time for our minds to evolve" suggests heavily that you think of atheists higher.
 

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Wrong.
The "God of holes" is a concept frowned upon by atheists and believers alike. Atheists say that just because we don't know something YET doesn't mean that it's directly God's work. And they're right. Believers say that a universe that's not self-sufficient and requires additional God's help to function is not perfect and therefore such a world could not be created by perfect God. This is correct, as well.

Religion is not about covering the holes in science with God. It's much deeper than that. Religion is not to explain things, religion is to provide guidance. The fact that you don't seem to understand this further implies that in fact, you never believed in God.

@Bold: This!
 

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there is another great british scientist who has spent his life to prove that god does not exist and just changed his mind recently.I forgot the name.
 

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No science is not how god made everything, science IS everything. If you were never introduced religion to by you parents, would you believe that there is a god. Every religeon can't be right, so which one is right to you? the one you were raised with and the ones your parents made you believe? god is like santa clause. Just there to comfort us, when the story has been alive too long.
excuse me for using itachi for this example its the naruturd in me
We don't know that either we has humans choose what we want to believe and what we want to think what if a priest came up with evolution instead of darwin? we would believe that evoultion was a god theory because that priest would have most likely came up with it that way. to quote itachi

"knowledge and awareness are equal ones reality may be another's illusion" for me its reality that god exists for you its that he doesn't and science is every thing for me scicne is the answer to how god set it up. my reality is your illusion or my illusion is your reality its how we choose to set it up darwin made his reality that we made our selfs but what if that was an illusion? see my point we can set up what we believe as reality or an illisuin choosing to believe one way or anotehr is just our abutary absumtion you assume that cine dis proves god i assume it proves god. In the end the only proof that can be provided for his existence is death and only that and to bad for us those who die can't come back to tell us.

my reality your illusion or the other way around we won't know untill we die. but to me its reality
 

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there is another great british scientist who has spent his life to prove that god does not exist and just changed his mind recently.I forgot the name.

his views do not affect me in any way. Every one has a right to their own views. I have mine, you have yours, we can all be happy. The human race never agrees upon anything. No one can ever be right with us, we just have to deal with it.
 

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excuse me for using itachi for this example its the naruturd in me
We don't know that either we has humans choose what we want to believe and what we want to think what if a priest came up with evolution instead of darwin? we would believe that evoultion was a god theory because that priest would have most likely came up with it that way.

Just to say something in regards to the bolded part...
...Big Bang was invented by a priest. :p
 

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excuse me for using itachi for this example its the naruturd in me
We don't know that either we has humans choose what we want to believe and what we want to think what if a priest came up with evolution instead of darwin? we would believe that evoultion was a god theory because that priest would have most likely came up with it that way. to quote itachi

"knowledge and awareness are equal ones reality may be another's illusion" for me its reality that god exists for you its that he doesn't and science is every thing for me scicne is the answer to how god set it up. my reality is your illusion or my illusion is your reality its how we choose to set it up darwin made his reality that we made our selfs but what if that was an illusion? see my point we can set up what we believe as reality or an illisuin choosing to believe one way or anotehr is just our abutary absumtion you assume that cine dis proves god i assume it proves god. In the end the only proof that can be provided for his existence is death and only that and to bad for us those who die can't come back to tell us.

my reality your illusion or the other way around we won't know untill we die. but to me its reality

And that if perfectly acceptable. I do not judge people on there views and as I have said numerous times on this thread, people have the right to believe whatever they want. Either way, who came up with the afterlife, humans after all.
 

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It's atheists' opinion that it was humans who created this guidance. Some think otherwise, and no side can prove the other wrong.

But no matter who created it - yes, it's true that religion was used to control people in the past. But so was atheism - think of Stalin as an example, or any communist country, even present.
Religion was used to control, yes, but it was never religion's purpose. You cannot argue with the fact that it's religion that gives some people strength to live another day, and in general - makes them often more optimistic - because they believe. And even if God is not proved scientifically, placebo is pretty much a fact - your thoughts affect your physical condition.



Maybe you're trying not to look down at believers, but the fact that you earlier stated that "you thought it was time for our minds to evolve" suggests heavily that you think of atheists higher.

Can't be proven wrong because it was such a long time ago.
I believe there were wise men who came up with these rules and said they were from God himself so that people would follow them (or be punished by this "God") It was a simple way to make people surrender to their rules.

Granted, many of these rules brought up moral standards and I applaud them for how they have shaped people into caring for each other (somewhat). However, to say that God gave them to people.... I highly doubt that.
If God did so, why do these rules have to be changed? Why do they get outdated? Why are there so many different sets that contradict? Why do they put down women, gays and others just because they were born a certain way? Didn't God make them as well? Why are they so imperfect?

I believe that there may well be a God but I do not believe that these false, ignorant rules were made by God. U_U
 

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What?


It's not our brain that isn't developed enough, it's that our understanding isn't developed enough yet.
so what you say there will come a day where whe humans will be invincible ,nowing everything is impossible!!!!!

for exampel i also can make a theory about something ''nothing less'' what is it can whe humans think about nothing nothing is something can whe humans explain what nothing is what it means no whe can not:| in the end it was just a theory
 

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Just to say something in regards to the bolded part...
...Big Bang was invented by a priest. :p

yeah i posted the link atleast 3 separate times >_> and its because someone else toke it read the biography of him in the link i posted This priest used since to prove god the big bag was "let there be light" but no one belived him because his math was off then many years later someone who did his math much better got full criedt and it wasn't accepted as a god theory
 

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i just dont get how you can stop believing in God just because you watched a video. to me it seems that you really didnt believe in God from the begining
 

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i just dont get how you can stop believing in God just because you watched a video. to me it seems that you really didnt believe in God from the begining

That's what I personally think, too.
 

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i just dont get how you can stop believing in God just because you watched a video. to me it seems that you really didnt believe in God from the begining

That's a valid question.
 

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Anyways, i can tell may of you are to lazy to watch the video, so please go watch it. I don't want to argue, i'm tired of it. I just wanted to share something, and see your views on it. Instead i got a bunch of people arguing with me about my views.
 

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i just dont get how you can stop believing in God just because you watched a video. to me it seems that you really didnt believe in God from the begining

That's a valid assumption.

P.S
I replied but it's in the 3rd page for some reason (?)
 

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