Restricting PS from the EMS users what loses them this fight.
-Jiraiya may be a non factor, but Naurto isn't as he has his Sage Chou Oodama Rasenshuriken, which can and will deal heavy damage, at the very least, to either of their Susanoo if it hits.
-Hashirama has his Mokujin, which stalemated Perfect Susanoo. Its strong enough to restrain PS, which is strong enough to destroy a Mountain just by swinging its sword. It'd manhandle Itachi and Sasuke's V4 Susanoo along with Madara's. Three V3's aren't taking out something on par with Perfect Susanoo.
-As Touken mentioned, Mokuryu has been shown to absorb normal chakra and Bijuu chakra, so Susanoo should, logically, be able to be absorbed.
-Finally, Hashirama has the stamina advantage, so if this becomes a battle of attrition, he still wins.
clown please naruto adds nothing especially not a FRS witch will egnites sasuke enton a susanoo arrow or amaterasu would end both of the sm users
Hashirama goes down wood dragon isnt a factor its not that big for starters
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just bearly longer than kurama witch sasuke standing susanoo is the same size as giant enton blades slices it to pieces
Mokujin should not be compared to perfect susanoo feats shown its not even in its league also it was shown being destroyed multiply times
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in that scan you can see perfect susanoo sword in the swinging motion and a big dust cloud infront of it mokujin was destroyed in dont pull that manga portrayol their equal they stalemated when thats clearly not the case
PS>Kurama>Mokujin witch was blown apart by a 1 bijuu dama that wasit charged wat so ever a basic bijuu dama is mountain level sasuke kirin is mountain level he could easily use that to do some damage to mokujin also sasuke susnaoo could cut its head off also a giant katon would help destroy mokujin aswell they could try to catch hashirama with a genjutsu but the chances are slim to none
anyways team uchiha wins high diff if mokujin was restricted would have been low-med
-About the hawk thing...good idea, but a hawk simply can't support something as heavy as a Susano'o on top of it. And yes, Susano'o does have weight - if it didn't, Danzo's summon would have sucked it up. -About Sasuke protecting everyone in his enton Susano'o: it won't work. It's true that Enton could eventually harden the swamp, but it's not instant. Amaterasu takes a very long time to burn, notice how in seven pages it still hadn't burned through Raikage:
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By making a giant swamp and then crashing a toad boss on top of Susano'o in quick succession, Jiraiya can succesfully sink a V4 susanoo down there. Maybe a katon on Madara's level would harden it quickly enough, (that is if he understands the details of Dark Swamp, figures out its weakness, and spits out a giant katon, all in an instant before the toad hits). And coating his Susano'o in Enton is not going to defend against Hashi's wood either, since Ama burns just too slowly. Mokuryu still can wrap around it and supress its chakra, or it gets slammed down by gates, or mokujin merks it. The wood will get burned down eventually, but it would take hours. Hell, if burning down wood was so easy Madara would have finished Hashi with katons only.
-Susanoo's can't really fight once they're completely restrained. Hands grab Susanoo by its ankles, then some more hands restrain its arms. A wood dragon supresses its chakra and then it gets slammed down by gates.
-About fire...okay, Madara's > Jiraiya's, I'll admit that. Still, Hashi can make wood walls or barriers to defend against Madara's fire, such as Hōbi.
-About Rasenshurikens: Danzo didn't use 5 vacuum spheres at once. He had the Baku sucking in everything, immobilizing Sasuke. Then he added another wind technique on top of that, cutting through Susano'o. FRS is stronger than Vacuum wave because it takes change in chakra form to the highest degree, and there is a wind nature mixed in with all of that. Danzo's fuuton are powerful and diverse but Naruto's FRS is just on a whole other level when it comes to raw power. So yes, a couple Rasenshurikens along with a massive rasengan barrage along with Hashirama's wood techniques pounding Susanoo is definitely enough to shatter a Susanoo.
-About frogs: ...okay yeah. A couple of toads will probably need to be sacrificed. However, they're safe if they stay inside the dust cloud and Jiraiya sealing the flames is not out of question either - when a shadow clone is made, their clothing/tools/weapons are cloned too so Jiraiya has more than one scroll.
-Other stuff As stated previously, any toad summons that stay inside the dust cloud cannot be genjutsu'd or amaterasu'd. If any of them turn against their summoners, Hashi easily puts them down. Hashirama merks any snakes with wooden spikes. How do snakes even see anything through the dust cloud? Magatamas are easily blocked with Hōbi or other wooden structures...Kirin. I forgot about kirin. I suppose Hashi could block it with Buddha or mokujin, since the thing flung around a bijuudama like it was nothing. And they would notice beforehand that a lightning attack from the sky would happen, either by sensing it with SM or seeing a giant lightning panther come down from the clouds before it strikes. Besides, how would Sasuke know where to make Kirin strike? Team 1 is still hidden in a dust cloud.
Sorry about no scans, I'm not on my phone but I'm just too lazy to dig them up.
This is how I see the battle going:
-Shima spits out her dust cloud and Hashi provides Mokuton defense
-Naruto shoots out several Rasenshuriken from the dust cloud: Uchihas set up their respective Susano'os to defend against it.
-Itachi is pretty much a non-factor since his Susano'o is legless, therefore Hashirama can make wooden spikes come out of the ground, bypassing Susano'o, and nailing Itachi. If this isn't enough, Jiraiya can slam another toad down on Sasuke.
-Jiraiya sinks Sasuke in a dark swamp after slamming Bunta on top of him. Naruto finishes his Susano'o with a rasenshuriken to the face, followed up by a Giant Rasengan Barrage like he did with Kurama.
-While this is going on, Hashirama binds Madara's Susano'o with mokuton and creates mokujin to deal handle Madara. While Madara is fighting Mokujin, Hashi can slam him down with gates and slip in a wood dragon to supress his chakra. Now Madara is immobilized and his chakra is supressed. Now Naruto can give him a good old rasengan to the face.
Susano'o would have been sucked in... It was gripping the hell out of the ground so it wouldn't go flying. The sae way 6T naruto anchored his tails into the ground.
The Hawk doesn't have susano'o on it; susano'o is around it. The hawk feels 0 weight from susano'o as susano'o is manipulated by the user. As the user moves, susano'o will also move. So, again; There's a high flying hawk above, with armor strong enough to tank oodama rasengans, while it's user can spam magatamas below. Team 1 can only run in circles.
Raikage had a raiton cloak and skin that could tank a raiton enhanced sword. This proves nothing when ama burnt through oro's white snake and danzo in seconds. A measly swamp hardens quickly.
You can't completely restrain susano'o unless it's completely burried. Susano'o users can dispel and respawn it making it escape simple traps.
Just look at the scan I posted. Baku was sucking in -> Susano'o was going to fly through the wind, so sasuke braced it into the ground -> Danzo then uses 5 wind spheres. Count the number of blades in the image, which then result into 1 massive one. This is definitely above a rasenshuriken, otherwise naruto wouldn't need gaara to pull madara out of susano'o before tossing his FRS. None of this took into account the fact that the uchiha can just dodge FRS, or sasuke eats it away with enton making it simply splash on susano'o as a fire. Any attack hashi uses is destroyed by totsuka. You know, that sword that cleaved hydra's head like butter? yea. Hashi's wood isn't that resilient. Naruto stopped it with some Rasengan.
Look, Itachi hypnotises the toads then the uchiha go to town on them - Sasuke just stabs these toads with enton arrows, or Itachi rips them with totsuka, or madara destroys them with his devastating attacks. I don't feel like wasting time about arguing whether jiraiya can sit on all his toads and constantly put out ama with a scroll... A scroll he has to unwrap, do some seals first, then let it do it's work.
By staying in the dust cloud, these toads are now basically useless. Gamahiro and gama___ are both kenjutsu toads. Bunta's the one with suiton bubbles nd oil; but a flying bird dodges some water balls effortlessly. And by doing that, Gamabunta gives his position away, and the uchiha rain down magatama. You've blinded bbunta with the smoke, so he can't see this death coming at him.
Snakes sense through body heat and smell[
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Snakes are also agile[
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How exactly are they still in smoke It doesn't last that long[
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Based on your summary
-> Hashi has mokuton defenses up (which can be canonically ripped down by susano'o swords, raiton sword and something as strong as rasengan) -> The uchiha tank rasenshuriken. Naruto's now in base from these several rasengan... since he can only max 3 per SM.
-> Susano'o's sunk into the ground (but nothing's stopping the uchiha from hauling techs from inside the safe of it). Now, The uchiha apparently wait as naruto, who's now in base, meditates again (???). Naruto smashes a rasenshuriken into Someone's V4 susano'o, then uses a rasengan barrage... And goes right back to base. Meanwhile, An uchiha was killed. I don't know which one, since Sasuke's Enton coated V4 ate that first rasenshuriken[
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-> can I see these mokuton spikes from the ground that can just kill someone? But let's not forget what happens if these supposed spikes hit itachi[
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-> Madara, Hashira's greatest rival, Is somehow now completely fodderized by hashi no diff. Even though he trumps hashi in kenjutsu[
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Did I miss anything?
None of that will happen like that. And, hashi's not no diff stomping madara. Those gates will get ripped to shit and back the same way an alive madara
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like sandpaper. Let's not go overstating the difference in hashi and madara's strength. When madara's V4 is the same size as his PS; just unstablized. The reason being that ITachi's V4 is simply the top portion only of Susano'o (madara's own already the size of the kyuubi[
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A bijuu's only the size of the head of a PS/Full V4 unstabalized Lmao[
Wrong. If Sasuke tries and swing his Enton Blade at Mokuryu, Mokujin catches its arm and begins to pound the shit out of it, not like it'd even reach the dragon unless the dragon came after it.
Mokujin should not be compared to perfect susanoo feats shown its not even in its league also it was shown being destroyed multiply times
(So nothing in Team 2's arsenal is damaging it at all)
in that scan you can see perfect susanoo sword in the swinging motion and a big dust cloud infront of it mokujin was destroyed in dont pull that manga portrayol their equal they stalemated when thats clearly not the case
There is nothing in this scan...only thing I see is you trying to twist the manga as usual.
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When you can get me a scan of Mokujin being destroyed, then we can continue on this point. Until then, don't bother with this shit.
PS>Kurama>Mokujin witch was blown apart by a 1 bijuu dama that wasit charged wat so ever a basic bijuu dama is mountain level sasuke kirin is mountain level he could easily use that to do some damage to mokujin also sasuke susnaoo could cut its head off also a giant katon would help destroy mokujin aswell they could try to catch hashirama with a genjutsu but the chances are slim to none
PS Sized Mokujin used in Sage Mode>>>>>>Full Kurama and Unstabilized PS sized Mokujin used in Base. Sorry pal. Not to mention Kurama's Bijuu Dama is stronger than anything PS can dish out. It vaporizes Mountains, PS cuts Mountains.
-Madara swung his blade and failed to cut it with PS, Sasuke's Susanoo is utter shit in comparison so it won't do shit to Mokujin at all.
-Sure Kirin might do some damage......if it were stronger than PS's sword, which didn't do serious damage to Mokujin at all, so its useless here.
-Lol? Katon? Mokujin shrugs off any Katon fired at it.
Hashirama would take team Uchiha by himself. A PS leveled construct is obviously going to shit on 3 V4 Susanoo.
anyways team uchiha wins high diff if mokujin was restricted would have been low-med
it will ignite sasukes enton but it will still cause the jutsu to destroy the susanoo,,,
COFRS is destroying all susanoos bar V3/V4,,, here,, i dont see how naruto is a non factor here,, seeing that he has the SM perception to counter amaterasu and susnaoo arrows as well,,
Hashirama goes down wood dragon isnt a factor its not that big for starters
I dont see how something can be a non factor if it isnt big,,,
just bearly longer than kurama witch sasuke standing susanoo is the same size as giant enton blades slices it to pieces Mokujin should not be compared to perfect susanoo feats shown its not even in its league also it was shown being destroyed multiply times
Why shouldnt it be compared to PS,,,,
it blocked the entire slash wiith its hands,, and negated the effects of the shockwaves,,, seeing that how PS is leagues above all the other susanoo variiants,, and how hashiramas mokujin was fighting on par with PS,,
mokujin also managed to best PS most likely seeing as how hashirama managed to restrain madara through it,, who had the PS up while fighting hashirama,,,
judging by that notion,, mokujin should be able to destroy the susanoos
Mokujin tanked a PS slash without much problem,, sasukes V3 enton slice is not doing anything to it at all,,,,
PS>Kurama>Mokujin witch was blown apart by a 1 bijuu dama that wasit charged wat so ever a basic bijuu dama is mountain level sasuke kirin is mountain level he could easily use that to do some damage to mokujin also sasuke susnaoo could cut its head off also a giant katon would help destroy mokujin aswell they could try to catch hashirama with a genjutsu but the chances are slim to none
PS has an offensive ability that is able to slice mountains,,,,
Kuramas TBB completely dwarf the mountains,, and turn them to paste,,,
I dont see why these 2 are evne brought up here since the uchihas are not allowed to use their PS here,, and the mokujin would obliterate their lower susanoo variants,,
@Bold - Giant Katons are doing nothing to mokujin at all,, neither is sasukes susanoo since they dont even compete with the offensive feats of madaras PS slash,,, which was tanked and countered by the mokujin,,,
lol, no he's not keeping all 3 occupied at once, don't exaggerate.
Naruto doesn't need to sit down but he still needs to not move. If itachi and Sasuke even look at him, he gets burned. Not saying he won't be able to enter sage mode because he can, he can even use clones to do it but he's being the weak link for his team every time he has to do that. This will be a long battle and the 3 uchiha's aren't dumb, how many times can Naruto run out of sage mode and re enter without them stopping him?
Hashirama and Jiraiya are more than capable of providing enough cover for Naruto to re enter sm when he needs to. Hashirama can even protect him with mokuton dome if he needs to.
Team 2 wins with mid difficulty. Naruto and Itachi are non-factors really.
Madara still has his gigantic V4 Susanoo and Sasuke still has still Bijuu-sized legged Susanoo. Itachi can hop on board either Susanoo to equip it with Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade.
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Hashirama's constructs have made contact with Susanoo twice, but failed to absorb it both times. They seem to have trouble with yin powers.
Madara still has his gigantic V4 Susanoo and Sasuke still has still Bijuu-sized legged Susanoo. Itachi can hop on board either Susanoo to equip it with Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade.
Madara got the Wood Dragon from an impossible area to counter since he called Susanoo while it was wrapped around Kurama, if he tries to chop anything up in this scenario, Mokujin blocks it and starts smacking his Susanoo around, same goes for Sasuke. A PS leveled construct can't be beaten by a V3 and V4 Susanoo.
Wrong. If Sasuke tries and swing his Enton Blade at Mokuryu, Mokujin catches its arm and begins to pound the shit out of it, not like it'd even reach the dragon unless the dragon came after it.
-Stalemated PS.
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(So nothing in Team 2's arsenal is damaging it at all)
There is nothing in this scan...only thing I see is you trying to twist the manga as usual.
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When you can get me a scan of Mokujin being destroyed, then we can continue on this point. Until then, don't bother with this shit.
PS Sized Mokujin used in Sage Mode>>>>>>Full Kurama and Unstabilized PS sized Mokujin used in Base. Sorry pal. Not to mention Kurama's Bijuu Dama is stronger than anything PS can dish out. It vaporizes Mountains, PS cuts Mountains.
-Madara swung his blade and failed to cut it with PS, Sasuke's Susanoo is utter shit in comparison so it won't do shit to Mokujin at all.
-Sure Kirin might do some damage......if it were stronger than PS's sword, which didn't do serious damage to Mokujin at all, so its useless here.
-Lol? Katon? Mokujin shrugs off any Katon fired at it.
Hashirama would take team Uchiha by himself. A PS leveled construct is obviously going to shit on 3 V4 Susanoo.
in the scan you posted he never retrained ps just held its arm since when has that been a restraint ps is clearly much above it
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A bijuu dama from an uncharged kurama destroyed mokujin easily yet didnt put a sratch on perfect susanoo also those hotei hands were senjutsu size hands choped like suishi plus the mountains in the distance perfect susanoo clearly cut mokujin in half
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talking about twisting the manga get real ps sword casually destroys mountains from 100 of metors away mokujin was wacked by a normal bijuu dama in the pic you clearly tell mokuin is being split in half also ps sword fodderized shinsuusenjutsu arms even before the bijuu damas went off
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bijuu damas havent went off yet but if you belive that mokujin can stalemate perfect especially with little to no offensive feats and only defensive feat is being obliverated by the average bijuu dama be my geust and the reason i posted that scan is because sasuke could easily chop mokujin like he did that giant ass god tree branch
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its not shrugging off a katon that is larger than it common logic fire>wood also saying because kirin isnt a powerful as a ps sword doesnt help your logic mokuin face will be destroyed easily by kirin witch turned a mountain to debri
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kirin is like a bijuu dama its explodes not sliced wood dragon is fodder its pure fan fic that it can absorb a susanoo enton decimates it
Both of which are inferior to PS, thus inferior to Mokujin.
Susanoo users have never shown to equip their Susanoo weapons to another Susanoo. So I don't know where you got that from but it wasn't the manga.
The first scan was nothing but a brief clash, and then both combatants pulled away. [
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The second scan is irrelevant as Mokujin can't absorb chakra.
Madara got the Wood Dragon from an impossible area to counter since he called Susanoo while it was wrapped around Kurama, if he tries to chop anything up in this scenario, Mokujin blocks it and starts smacking his Susanoo around, same goes for Sasuke. A PS leveled construct can't be beaten by a V3 and V4 Susanoo.
Mokujin isn't always as big as a PS construct. At vote Kyuubi = Mokujin in size = Top half of V4 = <1/2 a Full V4 And perfect susano'o.
Not like mokujin has any destructive capabilities. So it's not even bringing down a V3 susano'o when it took 1000 punches from dwarf master shinshuu to bring down a PS.
Mokujin isn't always as big as a PS construct. At vote Kyuubi = Mokujin in size = Top half of V4 = <1/2 a Full V4 And perfect susano'o.
Not like mokujin has any destructive capabilities. So it's not even bringing down a V3 susano'o when it took 1000 punches from dwarf master shinshuu to bring down a PS.
PS was trying to move its arm (Go look at its sword and you'll see the lines that indicate struggle) yet it couldn't move because Mokujin was stopping it. You can call it whatever you want but the manga makes it clear that PS and Mokujin are on par in strength.
A bijuu dama from an uncharged kurama destroyed mokujin easily yet didnt put a sratch on perfect susanoo also those hotei hands were senjutsu size hands choped like suishi plus the mountains in the distance perfect susanoo clearly cut mokujin in half
1. Never said that Mokujin equaled PS in durability, that's obviously false, so your first point is irrelevant...not to mention that is a smaller and weaker Mokujin, not the Mokujin used by Hashirama as an Edo, which is almost the size of PS, which dwarfs legless unstabilized Susanoo.
2. Mokuton Hotei is irrelevant here.
3. Mokujin was never shown being cut in half, that's just you grasping at straws.
talking about twisting the manga get real ps sword casually destroys mountains from 100 of metors away mokujin was wacked by a normal bijuu dama in the pic you clearly tell mokuin is being split in half also ps sword fodderized shinsuusenjutsu arms even before the bijuu damas went off
Yeah, PS cuts Mountains and Bijuu Dama vaporizes them, Full Kurama's Bijuu Dama is above PS's slash. Not to mention a Mokujin that was the size of Madara's unstabilized Susanoo<<<<An almost PS sized Mokujin. So stop mentioning this nonsense.
Wrong. No scan shows Mokujin being cut in half. None at all.
If PS Sword fodderized Shinsuusenju's arms, why was PS busted open? Not to mention this is irrelevant as it only shows Mokujin's durability>Shinsuusenju's hand's durability.
bijuu damas havent went off yet but if you belive that mokujin can stalemate perfect especially with little to no offensive feats and only defensive feat is being obliverated by the average bijuu dama be my geust and the reason i posted that scan is because sasuke could easily chop mokujin like he did that giant ass god tree branch
its not shrugging off a katon that is larger than it common logic fire>wood also saying because kirin isnt a powerful as a ps sword doesnt help your logic mokuin face will be destroyed easily by kirin witch turned a mountain to debri
Lol, now I'm done taking you seriously..are we really using fire>wood as an argument to say Katon will destroy Mokujin? Fodders in V1 cloaks tanked Madara's Katon, Mokujin's durability is higher so it will tank the Katon with no damage at all. Katon didn't turn
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branches to ash yet it will destroy Mokujin? Get out of here with that BS.
-PS swing its blade, Mokujin is still standing....Sorry pal, you can cry about it not having any defensive feats when the manga disagrees.
Regardless, Hashirama could always tank it with his Mokuton Dome, and if Mokujin is destroyed, he reforms it, though it won't be because of its own durability and the dome protecting it.
kirin is like a bijuu dama its explodes not sliced wood dragon is fodder its pure fan fic that it can absorb a susanoo enton decimates it
So? It being like a Bijuu Dama doesn't change the fact its vastly inferior to a PS sword slash, considering PS cuts full Mountains while Kirin only obliterated a small one/Large Hill at the worst.
-PS and Mokujin fight for an extended period of time.
-Neither is wearing down at all.
-Mokujin is blocking PS's attacks and PS is blocking Mokujin's attacks.
Yet they weren't shown as on par? Please stop denying manga facts. If you continue this BS I'll just ignore you cause I don't feel like going in circles.
-Sage Mode amped it when he was fighting Edo Madara.
I already know that Mokujin at VoTE and Mokujin at the Juubi Revival Arc are different sizes.
Not like mokujin has any destructive capabilities. So it's not even bringing down a V3 susano'o when it took 1000 punches from dwarf master shinshuu to bring down a PS.
PS was trying to move its arm (Go look at its sword and you'll see the lines that indicate struggle) yet it couldn't move because Mokujin was stopping it. You can call it whatever you want but the manga makes it clear that PS and Mokujin are on par in strength.
1. Never said that Mokujin equaled PS in durability, that's obviously false, so your first point is irrelevant...not to mention that is a smaller and weaker Mokujin, not the Mokujin used by Hashirama as an Edo, which is almost the size of PS, which dwarfs legless unstabilized Susanoo.
2. Mokuton Hotei is irrelevant here.
3. Mokujin was never shown being cut in half, that's just you grasping at straws.
Yeah, PS cuts Mountains and Bijuu Dama vaporizes them, Full Kurama's Bijuu Dama is above PS's slash. Not to mention a Mokujin that was the size of Madara's unstabilized Susanoo<<<<An almost PS sized Mokujin. So stop mentioning this nonsense.
Wrong. No scan shows Mokujin being cut in half. None at all.
If PS Sword fodderized Shinsuusenju's arms, why was PS busted open? Not to mention this is irrelevant as it only shows Mokujin's durability>Shinsuusenju's hand's durability.
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Lol, now I'm done taking you seriously..are we really using fire>wood as an argument to say Katon will destroy Mokujin? Fodders in V1 cloaks tanked Madara's Katon, Mokujin's durability is higher so it will tank the Katon with no damage at all. Katon didn't turn
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branches to ash yet it will destroy Mokujin? Get out of here with that BS.
-PS swing its blade, Mokujin is still standing....Sorry pal, you can cry about it not having any defensive feats when the manga disagrees.
Regardless, Hashirama could always tank it with his Mokuton Dome, and if Mokujin is destroyed, he reforms it, though it won't be because of its own durability and the dome protecting it.
So? It being like a Bijuu Dama doesn't change the fact its vastly inferior to a PS sword slash, considering PS cuts full Mountains while Kirin only obliterated a small one/Large Hill at the worst.
Susanoo=Chakra.
Mokujin absorbs chakra.
Do the math.
-PS and Mokujin fight for an extended period of time.
-Neither is wearing down at all.
-Mokujin is blocking PS's attacks and PS is blocking Mokujin's attacks.
Yet they weren't shown as on par? Please stop denying manga facts. If you continue this BS I'll just ignore you cause I don't feel like going in circles.
I never said katon would destroy it i just said its not shrugging it off i posted the scan a 1000 times not going to re post it perfect susanoo sword was in the swinging motion there was a big dust cloud mokujin was no where to bee seen so obvious logic it was turned to dust im done with the argument looks like well need to see the anime so it can make things alot clearer.
Now your saying mokujin has more durability then shinsuusenjutsu 1000 arms stop trolling that truely was sig worthy those arms tanked 15 Pefect susanoo swords in 15 bijuu damas the arms were completely gone while on the otherhand one bijuu dama destroyed the mokujin completely look at this scan
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after all that the main body of shinsuusenjutsu wasit even touched completely unscathed and you think mokujin > thats trolololol anyways hashirama would not survive if kirin hit the mokujin head thats where he sits he is reduced to ash if he stays there also your underrated enton blade hashirama has nothing to even contest its slicing power
If the wood dragon could absorb susanoo or anything besides restrain bijuu chakra it would not have been blown apart by a bijuu dama
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also would have absorb the susanoo sword but as said before its useless enton rapes it easily and the basic spit bijuu dama like
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equal 1 moutain 1 perfect susanoo swords sliced 7 with no contact in on contact ps sword destroyed to meteors and still burst mountains
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i post the god tree link because no matter how big mokujin is compared to sasuke v4 it still will be chopped
I never said katon would destroy it i just said its not shrugging it off i posted the scan a 1000 times not going to re post it perfect susanoo sword was in the swinging motion there was a big dust cloud mokujin was no where to bee seen so obvious logic it was turned to dust im done with the argument looks like well need to see the anime so it can make things alot clearer.
Good, because there is nothing that implies Mokujin was destroyed. Your argument makes no sense anyway.
-You say a dust cloud was formed so Mokujin was destroyed, but I showed you a scan of Mokujin being hit by PS slash, which made a dust cloud, yet it was still standing.
-You say Mokujin was nowhere to be seen so it was destroyed, but you can clearly see its outline, and there is no way PS's sword slash will wipe it off the face of the battlefield instead of bisecting it.
Now your saying mokujin has more durability then shinsuusenjutsu 1000 arms stop trolling that truely was sig worthy those arms tanked 15 Pefect susanoo swords in 15 bijuu damas the arms were completely gone while on the otherhand one bijuu dama destroyed the mokujin completely look at this scan
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after all that the main body of shinsuusenjutsu wasit even touched completely unscathed and you think mokujin > thats trolololol anyways hashirama would not survive if kirin hit the mokujin head thats where he sits he is reduced to ash if he stays there also your underrated enton blade hashirama has nothing to even contest its slicing power
Stop. I said that ONE hand isn't as durable as Mokujin, not all of its hands together (Which cushioned the blast from Shinsuusenju I assume), which didn't even tank the explosion, they were destroyed. This post isn't even relevant as PS can't dish out power equal to 12 Bijuu Dama with PS blades inside of them.
Lol? Mokuton Dome tanks Kirin as its already tanked a superior Bijuu Dama. Hashirama doesn't die, and Sasuke's wasted his move....next.
Enton Blade? Mokujin already took a hit from PS, a hit from a Enton Wielding V3 Susanoo isn't going to do anything serious to it, in fact it'd catch Sasuke's Susanoo and toss it away given the insane size difference. It'd just smack it away like a bug if he tried to smash it.
If the wood dragon could absorb susanoo or anything besides restrain bijuu chakra it would not have been blown apart by a bijuu dama
It has to bite into or wrap around what it wants to absorb chakra from. Please tell me how it'll do that to a Bijuu Dama that has been fired at it. Mokuryu has already been
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. There is no debate here.
also would have absorb the susanoo sword but as said before its useless enton rapes it easily and the basic spit bijuu dama like
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equal 1 moutain 1 perfect susanoo swords sliced 7 with no contact in on contact ps sword destroyed to meteors and still burst mountains
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i post the god tree link because no matter how big mokujin is compared to sasuke v4 it still will be chopped
Already replied to the Susanoo sword little bit in an earlier post, go read that.
Go look at the explosion of that Bijuu Dama and you'll see that its not equal to one Mountain, the size difference between Kurama and the other 8 Bijuu would already put its standard Bijuu Dama at a higher level since its standard would be larger. So you have no dice here.
Um, I don't care if you posted the God Tree link, Sasuke's V4 can't do shit to it, not when PS couldn't...unless you are telling me a V4 Susanoo>Perfect Susanoo...Lol If Sasuke's Susanoo attacks Mokujin, it retaliates and smacks him into the ground.
Keep on trying to argue how a PS leveled construct is going to be beaten by V4 Susanoo.
SM Naruto vs. EMS Sasuke (Sasuke low/mid diff)
MS Itachi vs. SM Jiraiya (Itachi high diff),
Hashirama vs. EMS Madara (Hashirama high diff)
If they were to face off like this in the overall battle, it'd be an exhausted Hashirama vs. EMS Sasuke and MS Itachi. If Hashirama is out of chakra, at this point I could see the rest of team 2 win high diff.
Too many variables involved if they all go in at the same time, at least for me
Good, because there is nothing that implies Mokujin was destroyed. Your argument makes no sense anyway.
-You say a dust cloud was formed so Mokujin was destroyed, but I showed you a scan of Mokujin being hit by PS slash, which made a dust cloud, yet it was still standing.
-You say Mokujin was nowhere to be seen so it was destroyed, but you can clearly see its outline, and there is no way PS's sword slash will wipe it off the face of the battlefield instead of bisecting it.
Stop. I said that ONE hand isn't as durable as Mokujin, not all of its hands together (Which cushioned the blast from Shinsuusenju I assume), which didn't even tank the explosion, they were destroyed. This post isn't even relevant as PS can't dish out power equal to 12 Bijuu Dama with PS blades inside of them.
Lol? Mokuton Dome tanks Kirin as its already tanked a superior Bijuu Dama. Hashirama doesn't die, and Sasuke's wasted his move....next.
Enton Blade? Mokujin already took a hit from PS, a hit from a Enton Wielding V3 Susanoo isn't going to do anything serious to it, in fact it'd catch Sasuke's Susanoo and toss it away given the insane size difference. It'd just smack it away like a bug if he tried to smash it.
It has to bite into or wrap around what it wants to absorb chakra from. Please tell me how it'll do that to a Bijuu Dama that has been fired at it. Mokuryu has already been
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. There is no debate here.
Already replied to the Susanoo sword little bit in an earlier post, go read that.
Go look at the explosion of that Bijuu Dama and you'll see that its not equal to one Mountain, the size difference between Kurama and the other 8 Bijuu would already put its standard Bijuu Dama at a higher level since its standard would be larger. So you have no dice here.
Um, I don't care if you posted the God Tree link, Sasuke's V4 can't do shit to it, not when PS couldn't...unless you are telling me a V4 Susanoo>Perfect Susanoo...Lol If Sasuke's Susanoo attacks Mokujin, it retaliates and smacks him into the ground.
Keep on trying to argue how a PS leveled construct is going to be beaten by V4 Susanoo.
- sigh - terrible day for you kidgamer your logic is based on the fact that kishi didnt want to pull madara & hashirama in the fight with obito talking about a stalemate mokujin doesnt have the offensive feats that ps has so as far as im concerned it cannot destroy v3 standing susanoo also God tree branches > Mokujin limbs sasuke cuts them and half in the scan you posted gonna need a better source than mangapanda as they made numerous errors also it cannot coreal around enton enton blade doesnt need a destructive force like ps sword to do damage it makes clean nice perfect cuts
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Kirin is 1/1000 of a second hashirama isnt making a handsigh in that time also mokuton dome is coming right out of mokujin face gone sasuke susanoo can cover large distances with its jumping ability
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untill you can prove how mokujin stops what happen to the god tree branch dont keep saying irrelevant also sasuke can easily stay out of mokujin range with its jumping abilities and susanoo arrow & magatamas attacks that would soon overwhelm it mokuton dragin is fodder enton turns into to dust done saying the same shit hashirama also isnt advoiding genjutsu while fighting a head up fight with 3 uchihas
Not to mention this is irrelevant as it only shows Mokujin's durability>Shinsuusenju's hand's durability.
