remember that all pain animals shared their vision to the path and nagato so if minato try to use FTG and attack from point blank then nagato can know immediately since the bird upin the sky always keep an eye for minato movementshinra tensei < FTG to a safer place
spamming animals would just make him more concentrated on the caster and he can call out ma frog (saving his chakra) and use her to summon the other frogs for back up...
it is a gamble since it has a huge lag depending on the range used...nwei minimum is 5 secs for a short ranged one...still more than enough time for minato to engage and mark him through body flicker (not FTG...)
nagato would waste his chakra doing those stuff...the only simulation wherein he can beat minato is he needs to setup by catching minato with the chakra sucking path![]()
remember that all pain animals shared their vision to the path and nagato so if minato try to use FTG and attack from point blank then nagato can know immediately since the bird upin the sky always keep an eye for minato movement
and i don't think minato will have the time to summon fukusaku and ma since he's dealing with all kind of animal path pets at most minato can summon bunta but like we all know the dog pets>bunta,
no what will minato do in that situation ? since its useless to fight the pets u have to beat the caster and yet the caster its upr there n the sky ?
nagato even not yet summon the gedo mazo
yeah even the "untouchable" tobi tried to solo himLol,Preta Path soloes.
am sorry but nagato fight the entire konoha and yet he still manage to revive hundreds of ninja that he killed before he died, chakra problem is not nagato concernI have explained why Minato has the advantages in NINJUTSU. ADvantage does not mean that he has more powerful jutsus. Pain would not dare to engage in TAIJUTSU..why? because one touch from MInato and it's death for him..Why does Nagato has the advantage in chakra when his jutsu's are very powerful? His jutsu's consumes large amount of chakra. In the END, it would be an advantage for Minato.
if minato want to teleport pain then he also will be teleported to the exact same locationPlease remember that Minato can teleport something as big as the fox. Do you think he can't do that against Pain?
one smoke bomb throw (ala naruto) will make pain stand up there and wait a bit...remember that all pain animals shared their vision to the path and nagato so if minato try to use FTG and attack from point blank then nagato can know immediately since the bird upin the sky always keep an eye for minato movement
and i don't think minato will have the time to summon fukusaku and ma since he's dealing with all kind of animal path pets at most minato can summon bunta but like we all know the dog pets>bunta,
no what will minato do in that situation ? since its useless to fight the pets u have to beat the caster and yet the caster its upr there n the sky ?
nagato even not yet summon the gedo mazo
so minato will retreat in order to initiated his plan ?one smoke bomb throw (ala naruto) will make pain stand up there and wait a bit...it happened so many times even when itachi sealed nagato...he always have the tendency to stand up and wait when there's smoke at front of him...plus the fact minato can body flicker to a safer distance (outside pain's attack range) wherein he can initiate the attack...as ive said pain isn't that fast, even konohamaru took down one with a rasengan...
except oro and pain/nagato i never saw shinobi who can multi summon their petand setup the frogs for diversion ala naruto...the thing is i don't understand why can a slower pain can make a summoning and minato can't and somehow, fans always disregard that minato can body flicker and summon cz he has the frog jutsus to help and assist him during tough battles like this...ma and pa frog especially that we have seen their appearance in the shippuuden series, they can help big time...
retreating and getting out of the firing range is different...have you played counterstrike or dota? most of the times you even need to lure an enemy so that you can gang him up, well it's the same thingso minato will retreat in order to initiated his plan ?
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ma / pa frog can summon all the frogs at the same time...i think those two are the most useful frogs that can ever work / strengthen a shinobi (as shown in naruto vs pain arc)except oro and pain/nagato i never saw shinobi who can multi summon their pet
at most minato can summon bunta and what the hell the frog gonna do ?
in the end its the same thing he back off because he realize that he don't have any chance of winning and decide to call for backupretreating and getting out of the firing range is different...have you played counterstrike or dota? most of the times you even need to lure an enemy so that you can gang him up, well it's the same thing![]()
IF YOU COMPARE IT TO DOTA, MINATO is MAGINA (anti mage) blink here blink there...
NAGATO IS CHEN or someone who uses minions since the main body is on a wheelchair...once you know to go over his minions and find / direct the attack to the caster then it's the end of story...
in battles you don't need to engage everytime...you always need to pause, hide yourself a little bit and think about the strategies you can make specially if you have stronger enemies at your front...
it takes time to summon fukusaku and ma as showed by j-man when fighting pain not to mention without the frog barrier j-man would have been killed by the huge rhino and that multiple dogs,ma / pa frog can summon all the frogs at the same time...i think those two are the most useful frogs that can ever work / strengthen a shinobi (as shown in naruto vs pain arc)
if that's how your mind works then i don't have any cure for itin the end its the same thing he back off because he realize that he don't have any chance of winning and decide to call for backup
he was planning to use sage mode at that time not only summon ma and pa...he was gathering energy on his palm which were not moving...that's why when he finally summoned them it was in that instant he was also in sage mode...it's an incomplete technique as he has not mastered sage mode but yet it was successful in terms of that battle...oh and also all we know that fukusaku and ma only know minato there is no proof that minato can summon them
like i said in the end its the same thing, why he back off ? because he don't have a chance that's why he need to call for back upsif that's how your mind works then i don't have any cure for iteven kakashi / jiraiya who went up against pain did back off a lil bit from a firing range to think quickly of a strategy:
anyway, here are pain's weakness:
You must be registered for see links- smoke bomb distracted pain
You must be registered for see links- smoke bombs made him stare and wait
You must be registered for see links- it made him stare again and again
You must be registered for see links- this time its only smoke but it made him stare again...and............
anyway, only smart ninjas do that...besides, who the hell will reload a gun in front of the enemies?? even in an open field, you just go away from his range to do a summon or maximize your speed to do the seals...its that easy...let's play DOTA or HON sometimes, i bet ill enjoy playing, have a good day got to bro, there's much stuff to do...need to take pictures for a magazine![]()
he was planning to use sage mode at that time not only summon ma and pa...he was gathering energy on his palm which were not moving...that's why when he finally summoned them it was in that instant he was also in sage mode...it's an incomplete technique as he has not mastered sage mode but yet it was successful in terms of that battle...
ma and pa were introduced in the shippuuden series, anyway the point is once you have the contract seal with the frogs you can summon them all to aid you in the battle...even their tadpoles if you want(shown in early naruto series)
anyway, my point is only to summon ma frog...and she will do the rest...besides, it is stated that gamabunta requires the largest chakra amongst all the frog since he's the biggest...kuchiyose no jutsu is a space time technique as well that let's you to transport creatures from a different location...
jiraiya --- minato --- naruto have contract seals...
Minato, Jiraiya figured him out the abilities pretty quickly, he was only confused because of the identity (one of the most epic scenes in the anime imo), and Kakashi figured out the deva quickly too.
It will take minato a little to figure out their abilities, but after that he will take down the 5 paths pretty easily like naruto did, followed by a long hard fight vs the deva path.
chibaku tensei can be avoided if pain again has to flee closer to nagato, as minato can simply teleport back to one of his kunai in konoha. plus minato is good with kunai, he can take advantage of the 5 second gap.
I'm not sure that Minato can figure out that nagato is the one controlling them though. that's a big leap to make without inside knowledge like jiraiya had. so nagato will probably live to fight another day