Six Path Of Pain VS Namikaze Minato

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shinra tensei < FTG to a safer place :)

spamming animals would just make him more concentrated on the caster and he can call out ma frog (saving his chakra) and use her to summon the other frogs for back up...

it is a gamble since it has a huge lag depending on the range used...nwei minimum is 5 secs for a short ranged one...still more than enough time for minato to engage and mark him through body flicker (not FTG...)

nagato would waste his chakra doing those stuff...the only simulation wherein he can beat minato is he needs to setup by catching minato with the chakra sucking path :)
remember that all pain animals shared their vision to the path and nagato so if minato try to use FTG and attack from point blank then nagato can know immediately since the bird upin the sky always keep an eye for minato movement

and i don't think minato will have the time to summon fukusaku and ma since he's dealing with all kind of animal path pets at most minato can summon bunta but like we all know the dog pets>bunta,

no what will minato do in that situation ? since its useless to fight the pets u have to beat the caster and yet the caster its upr there n the sky ?

nagato even not yet summon the gedo mazo
 

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remember that all pain animals shared their vision to the path and nagato so if minato try to use FTG and attack from point blank then nagato can know immediately since the bird upin the sky always keep an eye for minato movement

and i don't think minato will have the time to summon fukusaku and ma since he's dealing with all kind of animal path pets at most minato can summon bunta but like we all know the dog pets>bunta,

no what will minato do in that situation ? since its useless to fight the pets u have to beat the caster and yet the caster its upr there n the sky ?

nagato even not yet summon the gedo mazo

Please remember that Minato can teleport something as big as the fox. Do you think he can't do that against Pain?
 

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I have explained why Minato has the advantages in NINJUTSU. ADvantage does not mean that he has more powerful jutsus. Pain would not dare to engage in TAIJUTSU..why? because one touch from MInato and it's death for him..Why does Nagato has the advantage in chakra when his jutsu's are very powerful? His jutsu's consumes large amount of chakra. In the END, it would be an advantage for Minato.
am sorry but nagato fight the entire konoha and yet he still manage to revive hundreds of ninja that he killed before he died, chakra problem is not nagato concern
minato will run out chakra 1st why ? why don't u take a look what happen to minato when he fight the kyubi he look very tired after using 1 rasengan spam some FTG and space time barrier and transport the kyubi via FTG, and am sure he will have to do more than that to beat pain


and in ninjutsu what does minato have ? FTG,rasengan ?

nagato can use all the 5th elements
and have the rinnegan surely that eye give him the edge in ninjutsu


oh and by the way i would like to ask u and my question will determine whether i will reply/not reply to ur post in the future,

Who Can Beat Minato Beside SO6P ?


Please remember that Minato can teleport something as big as the fox. Do you think he can't do that against Pain?
if minato want to teleport pain then he also will be teleported to the exact same location
 
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remember that all pain animals shared their vision to the path and nagato so if minato try to use FTG and attack from point blank then nagato can know immediately since the bird upin the sky always keep an eye for minato movement

and i don't think minato will have the time to summon fukusaku and ma since he's dealing with all kind of animal path pets at most minato can summon bunta but like we all know the dog pets>bunta,

no what will minato do in that situation ? since its useless to fight the pets u have to beat the caster and yet the caster its upr there n the sky ?

nagato even not yet summon the gedo mazo
one smoke bomb throw (ala naruto) will make pain stand up there and wait a bit... :) it happened so many times even when itachi sealed nagato...he always have the tendency to stand up and wait when there's smoke at front of him...plus the fact minato can body flicker to a safer distance (outside pain's attack range) wherein he can initiate the attack...as ive said pain isn't that fast, even konohamaru took down one with a rasengan...meaning a split second difference can setup an attack for minato, all he needs to do is smoke bomb + body flicker and touch one...

and setup the frogs for diversion ala naruto... :) the thing is i don't understand why can a slower pain can make a summoning and minato can't and somehow, fans always disregard that minato can body flicker and summon cz he has the frog jutsus to help and assist him during tough battles like this...ma and pa frog especially that we have seen their appearance in the shippuuden series, they can help big time...
 
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one smoke bomb throw (ala naruto) will make pain stand up there and wait a bit... :) it happened so many times even when itachi sealed nagato...he always have the tendency to stand up and wait when there's smoke at front of him...plus the fact minato can body flicker to a safer distance (outside pain's attack range) wherein he can initiate the attack...as ive said pain isn't that fast, even konohamaru took down one with a rasengan...
so minato will retreat in order to initiated his plan ?
LOL


and setup the frogs for diversion ala naruto... :) the thing is i don't understand why can a slower pain can make a summoning and minato can't and somehow, fans always disregard that minato can body flicker and summon cz he has the frog jutsus to help and assist him during tough battles like this...ma and pa frog especially that we have seen their appearance in the shippuuden series, they can help big time...
except oro and pain/nagato i never saw shinobi who can multi summon their pet
at most minato can summon bunta and what the hell the frog gonna do ?
 
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so minato will retreat in order to initiated his plan ?
LOL
retreating and getting out of the firing range is different...have you played counterstrike or dota? most of the times you even need to lure an enemy so that you can gang him up, well it's the same thing :)

IF YOU COMPARE IT TO DOTA, MINATO is MAGINA (anti mage) blink here blink there... :)

NAGATO IS CHEN or someone who uses minions since the main body is on a wheelchair... :) once you know to go over his minions and find / direct the attack to the caster then it's the end of story...

in battles you don't need to engage everytime...you always need to pause, hide yourself a little bit and think about the strategies you can make specially if you have stronger enemies at your front...
 

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except oro and pain/nagato i never saw shinobi who can multi summon their pet
at most minato can summon bunta and what the hell the frog gonna do ?
ma / pa frog can summon all the frogs at the same time...i think those two are the most useful frogs that can ever work / strengthen a shinobi (as shown in naruto vs pain arc)
 

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retreating and getting out of the firing range is different...have you played counterstrike or dota? most of the times you even need to lure an enemy so that you can gang him up, well it's the same thing :)

IF YOU COMPARE IT TO DOTA, MINATO is MAGINA (anti mage) blink here blink there... :)

NAGATO IS CHEN or someone who uses minions since the main body is on a wheelchair... :) once you know to go over his minions and find / direct the attack to the caster then it's the end of story...

in battles you don't need to engage everytime...you always need to pause, hide yourself a little bit and think about the strategies you can make specially if you have stronger enemies at your front...
in the end its the same thing he back off because he realize that he don't have any chance of winning and decide to call for backup


ma / pa frog can summon all the frogs at the same time...i think those two are the most useful frogs that can ever work / strengthen a shinobi (as shown in naruto vs pain arc)
it takes time to summon fukusaku and ma as showed by j-man when fighting pain not to mention without the frog barrier j-man would have been killed by the huge rhino and that multiple dogs,

oh and also all we know that fukusaku and ma only know minato there is no proof that minato can summon them
 
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in the end its the same thing he back off because he realize that he don't have any chance of winning and decide to call for backup
if that's how your mind works then i don't have any cure for it ;) even kakashi / jiraiya who went up against pain did back off a lil bit from a firing range to think quickly of a strategy:

anyway, here are pain's weakness:
- smoke bomb distracted pain
- smoke bombs made him stare and wait
- it made him stare again and again
- this time its only smoke but it made him stare again...and............ :)

anyway, only smart ninjas do that...besides, who the hell will reload a gun in front of the enemies?? even in an open field, you just go away from his range to do a summon or maximize your speed to do the seals...its that easy...let's play DOTA or HON sometimes, i bet ill enjoy playing, have a good day got to bro, there's much stuff to do...need to take pictures for a magazine :)
 

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oh and also all we know that fukusaku and ma only know minato there is no proof that minato can summon them
he was planning to use sage mode at that time not only summon ma and pa...he was gathering energy on his palm which were not moving...that's why when he finally summoned them it was in that instant he was also in sage mode...it's an incomplete technique as he has not mastered sage mode but yet it was successful in terms of that battle...

ma and pa were introduced in the shippuuden series, anyway the point is once you have the contract seal with the frogs you can summon them all to aid you in the battle...even their tadpoles if you want :) (shown in early naruto series)

anyway, my point is only to summon ma frog...and she will do the rest...besides, it is stated that gamabunta requires the largest chakra amongst all the frog since he's the biggest...kuchiyose no jutsu is a space time technique as well that let's you to transport creatures from a different location...the bigger it is, the more chakra you use...

jiraiya --- minato --- naruto have contract seals...
 
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if that's how your mind works then i don't have any cure for it ;) even kakashi / jiraiya who went up against pain did back off a lil bit from a firing range to think quickly of a strategy:

anyway, here are pain's weakness:
- smoke bomb distracted pain
- smoke bombs made him stare and wait
- it made him stare again and again
- this time its only smoke but it made him stare again...and............ :)

anyway, only smart ninjas do that...besides, who the hell will reload a gun in front of the enemies?? even in an open field, you just go away from his range to do a summon or maximize your speed to do the seals...its that easy...let's play DOTA or HON sometimes, i bet ill enjoy playing, have a good day got to bro, there's much stuff to do...need to take pictures for a magazine :)
like i said in the end its the same thing, why he back off ? because he don't have a chance that's why he need to call for back ups

he was planning to use sage mode at that time not only summon ma and pa...he was gathering energy on his palm which were not moving...that's why when he finally summoned them it was in that instant he was also in sage mode...it's an incomplete technique as he has not mastered sage mode but yet it was successful in terms of that battle...

ma and pa were introduced in the shippuuden series, anyway the point is once you have the contract seal with the frogs you can summon them all to aid you in the battle...even their tadpoles if you want :) (shown in early naruto series)

anyway, my point is only to summon ma frog...and she will do the rest...besides, it is stated that gamabunta requires the largest chakra amongst all the frog since he's the biggest...kuchiyose no jutsu is a space time technique as well that let's you to transport creatures from a different location...

jiraiya --- minato --- naruto have contract seals...

that was weird i mean if j-man want to enter SM fast he better summon fukusaku and ma immediately and have them gather senjutsu chakra while j-man flee from pain pets, and also j-man stated it will take sometime to summon the great toad elder(fukusaku and ma) and after that he started to flee,

and you are dead wrong if u think j-man was trying to enter sage mode when he flee from pain pets, at that time he's trying to summon fukusaku and shima
because in order to enter sage mode u have to stay still and yet j-man run all the way
 

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Peins take this one
you guys forgetting something

6path of pein (Shared Vision) plus to deal with Pein summons. you guys know peins are smart they not gonna align themself in a formation where each other wont be able to see behind them. so heres what i see

Minato disappears behind one of them not nothing ones abilities. in the blink of a eye he trys to stab them but pein dodges due to shared link vision. He "ALMIGHTY" push hiim.. yeaaa
u get where im going
minato is a dead man walking
 

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Minato, Jiraiya figured him out the abilities pretty quickly, he was only confused because of the identity (one of the most epic scenes in the anime imo), and Kakashi figured out the deva quickly too.

It will take minato a little to figure out their abilities, but after that he will take down the 5 paths pretty easily like naruto did, followed by a long hard fight vs the deva path.

chibaku tensei can be avoided if pain again has to flee closer to nagato, as minato can simply teleport back to one of his kunai in konoha. plus minato is good with kunai, he can take advantage of the 5 second gap.

I'm not sure that Minato can figure out that nagato is the one controlling them though. that's a big leap to make without inside knowledge like jiraiya had. so nagato will probably live to fight another day
 

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Minato, Jiraiya figured him out the abilities pretty quickly, he was only confused because of the identity (one of the most epic scenes in the anime imo), and Kakashi figured out the deva quickly too.

It will take minato a little to figure out their abilities, but after that he will take down the 5 paths pretty easily like naruto did, followed by a long hard fight vs the deva path.

chibaku tensei can be avoided if pain again has to flee closer to nagato, as minato can simply teleport back to one of his kunai in konoha. plus minato is good with kunai, he can take advantage of the 5 second gap.

I'm not sure that Minato can figure out that nagato is the one controlling them though. that's a big leap to make without inside knowledge like jiraiya had. so nagato will probably live to fight another day


good point actually i don't want to start an argument between OP fans but since ur post ls kinda interesting so i'll give it a try

u say minato will take the 5 path pretty easily, but the reason why naruto manage that its because the path was already weaken after nagato overuses his ability, if deva was on fire from the start then it will be no problem for nagato to capture naruto, as shown when deva regain his power he completely dominate the battlefield,

so imagine if animal path spam his/her pets and use the bird looking animal to fly with the other path except deva who can fly on his own, a missile attack and shinra tensei coming from above and in the ground there is numerous weird looking animal, i don't think even minato can escape that, only rinnegan madara and tobi sixpath of jin
 
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pein wins

the only reason jiriya knew nagatos secret is bcause he had me konan yahiko and nagato earlier in his life
 
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