Second strongest Hokage now? or not?

[KingHashirama]

Tobirama, is he officially now the second strongest Hokage now? or no?


Are the feat fans still gonna go on with the same argument? And be biased? Or are we admitting that there is a kind of a big gap between Tobirama and Minato, similar to Hashirama and Hiruzen?




-Shadow clone
-Edo tensei
-Skills on the level of EMS Madara
-HUGE chakra levels
-FTG
-Soul jutsu of Dan (or another soul transfer tech)
-Fighting jounin level ninja since they was kids

Also, if you notice the relationship of Minato and Tobirama is similar to Hiruzen and Hashirama (Not in a student teacher wise, but the roles wise).

Descendant Hokages:
Hiruzen = Strongest ninja of his time, huge scales of jutsu and so on

Minato = Fastest ninja of his time, and a genius in creating and so on


Ancestor Hokages:
Hashirama = Strongest ninja of his time, jutsu on huge scales and so on

Tobirama = Fastest ninja of his time and a genius in creating and so on.
I'm interested on what NB's opinion is on this now?


Hiruzen = Weaker version of Hashirama (not literally , but in a way)

Minato = Weaker version of Tobirama (not literally, but in a way)



I wanna see NB's opinion on this matter now.

 

[Headmaster]

4th strongest imo

 

[Fair Warning]

Dude i will debate you all night on how Minato is not a weaker version of Tobirama

 

[KingHashirama]

Dude i will debate you all night on how Minato is not a weaker version of Tobirama

lets go kiddo. You'll kind of lose after 1 post, just so you know.

 

[Sir Blades]

I find it interesting you gave him soul jutsu that Dan had.

 

[Champ]

Either Sarutobi or Tobirama

 

[KingHashirama]

I find it interesting you gave him soul jutsu that Dan had.

hmmm, that is actually a speculation, i should have put that there. However, that is the only soul transfer technique we know of.

 

[Flawž]

Technically yea

Hashirama
Tobirama/minato
Hiruzen
Tsunade

 

[Zaney]

In literal seriousness, I Believe the Hokage's rankings are
Hiruzen
Hashi
Minato
Tobirama
Tsunade

(I know I Hiruzen troll a lot but Hiruzen is a very skilled shinobi and I think he is the Strongest Hokage)

 

[KingHashirama]

Technically yea

Hashirama
Tobirama/minato
Hiruzen
Tsunade

Can't have 2 second strongest. Pick one.

In literal seriousness, I Believe the Hokage's rankings are
Hiruzen
Hashi
Minato
Tobirama
Tsunade

(I know I Hiruzen troll a lot but Hiruzen is a very skilled shinobi and I think he is the Strongest Hokage)

nun wrong with that. Can totally see where you are coming from in regards to Hiruzen.

 

[Flawž]

In literal seriousness, I Believe the Hokage's rankings are
Hiruzen
Hashi
Minato
Tobirama
Tsunade

(I know I Hiruzen troll a lot but Hiruzen is a very skilled shinobi and I think he is the Strongest Hokage)

? Log out right now buddy.

 

[Fair Warning]

lets go kiddo. You'll kind of lose after 1 post, just so you know.

1. Minato perfected Tobiramas FTG, look at space time barrier, kunai seals, mixing the seal into other seals and others chakra.
2. Rasengan and its variants is more versatile and creative than anything Tobirama has created.
3. Toad summons
4. Tobirama could not have defeated Kurama and Obito
5. Massive chakra pool even compared to Tobirama
6. Ten times the reaction time of Tobirama as seen in his fight with Ay where he reacted in base mode to Ays fastest speed

Come at me bro

 

[Styles]

Tobirama, is he officially now the second strongest Hokage now? or no?


Are the feat fans still gonna go on with the same argument? And be biased? Or are we admitting that there is a kind of a big gap between Tobirama and Minato, similar to Hashirama and Hiruzen?




-Shadow clone
-Edo tensei
-Skills on the level of EMS Madara
-HUGE chakra levels
-FTG
-Soul jutsu of Dan (or another soul transfer tech)
-Fighting jounin level ninja since they was kids

Also, if you notice the relationship of Minato and Tobirama is similar to Hiruzen and Hashirama (Not in a student teacher wise, but the roles wise).

Descendant Hokages:
Hiruzen = Strongest ninja of his time, huge scales of jutsu and so on

Minato = Fastest ninja of his time, and a genius in creating and so on


Ancestor Hokages:
Hashirama = Strongest ninja of his time, jutsu on huge scales and so on

Tobirama = Fastest ninja of his time and a genius in creating and so on.
I'm interested on what NB's opinion is on this now?


Hiruzen = Weaker version of Hashirama (not literally , but in a way)

Minato = Weaker version of Tobirama (not literally, but in a way)



I wanna see NB's opinion on this matter now.

Are you sure?

 

[Joker]

"Strength isn't always about jutsu" I believe Hiruzen said that.
Anyways, no.

 

[0jordinio0]

In literal seriousness, I Believe the Hokage's rankings are
Hiruzen
Hashi
Minato
Tobirama
Tsunade

(I know I Hiruzen troll a lot but Hiruzen is a very skilled shinobi and I think he is the Strongest Hokage)

How can you Hiruzen troll alot when you only have 50 posts?

Tobirama has more destructive techniques than Minato. But Minato has an improved version of Hiraishin and his space time barrier. So I'd say Tobirama is moer powerful and Minato is faster.

 

[Holy Cross]

-Shadow clone
-Edo tensei
-Skills on the level of EMS Madara
-HUGE chakra levels
-FTG -Soul jutsu of Dan
-Fighting jounin level ninja since they was kids

1: lol. That Is just...XD
2: I'll give you that one
3: that's why he's a human pin cushion
4: true
5: true
6: you don't know the details of the jutsu he spoke of
7: true


Hiruzen Is the second best.

 

[KingHashirama]

1. Minato perfected Tobiramas FTG, look at space time barrier, kunai seals, mixing the seal into other seals and others chakra.
2. Rasengan and its variants is more versatile and creative than anything Tobirama has created.
3. Toad summons
4. Tobirama could not have defeated Kurama and Obito
5. Massive chakra pool even compared to Tobirama
6. Ten times the reaction time of Tobirama as seen in his right with Ay where he reacted in base mode to Ays fastest speed

Come at me bro

1. Nothing to perfect. He simply added on. Kunai seals.. nice adding seals on a paper that Tobirama could've done if he wanted to. Mizing the seals into other seals has no correlation with perfecting FTG.... your claim is not supported by your points here.

2. Only 1 Rasengan he knows. Haven't seen any variants from him. And Tobirama's Edo tensei creation literally takes a dump on that.

3. Toad summons, and i care for them why? good he has toads to help him out when he can't handle things. Nothing to do with being stronger.

4. You sure are highly dellusional. Lets forget Kushina, who was equally responsible for its defeat (Chakra chains), and the village who held the 9-tails off. And no Tobirama would've been done with Obito quite easily actually.

5. Average Kage chakra pool.. get real.

6. Reacting to Jin Obito's blitz speed > reacting to Ay.. Anything else?

Are you sure?

positive.

 

[Joker]

-Shadow clone
-Edo tensei
-Skills on the level of EMS Madara
-HUGE chakra levels
-FTG -Soul jutsu of Dan
-Fighting jounin level ninja since they was kids

1: lol. That Is just...XD
2: I'll give you that one
3: that's why he's a human pin cushion
4: true
5: true
6: you don't know the details of the jutsu he spoke of
7: true


Hiruzen Is the second best.

That Hiruzen wank.
Anyways, I say Minato takes it more times then not

 

[~Sky~]

It's really hard to decide who's the strongest between Tobirama, Hiruzen, and Minato.

I'll go with Tobirama though. Every line he gets, every action he gets, he's either showing something we've never seen or feeding us information.

 

[IamtheGodofUchihaforever]

He couldn't fight 20 ninja with a team of 7. Also dan's jutsu isn't kinjutsu. Edo tensei is, thats what he was talking about. Tobirama is the second weakest hokage.