Sasuke's real speed

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Ha, pain was keeping up effortlessly? You are the one who should read the manga, if he was keeping up effortlessly, asura wouldn't have been one shotted like that. And the proff that he was going fast is that asura used a boost to launch himself to tsunade just like a missile.
I'm aware of the gravity acceleration. Still, he wouldn't have reached asura instantly just with that. Gamabunta is very tall, and to reach the ground, naruto would probably need some 6-8 seconds, maybe more. Give me gamabunta's exactly height and I'll give the time to you.

And of one the most impressive speed feat of sasuke is the one that he reached naruto in the team 7 reunion, and in that feat, there was gravity as well. You're the one with the shitty argument here.
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Pain effortlessly kept up with naruto. Keep clinging to nonsense. I'm not going to bother post the sasuke scans since you're clearly a naruto fanboy talking absolute garbage but, sasuke Ran up to the CM fodder and blitzed him(no gravity). He ran up to Tobi and blitzed him(no gravity). He sped behind Itachi's Crow bushin(no gravity). He moved back and saved KCM naruto from Jubito(no gravity).
 
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@bold: No, I never said that. Because naruto has sensing, he has increased time to react to an attack.
@2nd bold: lmfao. It's amazing you think i'd care. I'm not here defending sasuke because I like him. I'm here defending Sasuke because I dislike naruto fanboys who constantly wank him. You could provide any childish scan you want, but I can retort with 1 while defeating your argument with scans.

Anyway. Since you already posted the scans, let me point out to you how wrong you are. You state that "naruto ran around ay's attack". Lol, since when? What proof do you have? First scan, first panel. Look at the distance of naruto to the back wall.
Second scan, bottom center panel, look at naruto to the back wall. It's exactly the same. All naruto did was pull back his body and let Raikage fly by. Actually, I'll show you exactly what it would look like if kishi added another scan.

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Oh, and does this scan mean that sasuke is as fast as V1 Bee? Because base bee was able to keep up with V1 ay after all... That'd mean you, and not me, are saying that sasuke is as fast as V1 ay/Kcm Naruto? Lol.

Notice how, just like ay saying "not since minato has anyone dodged my full speed", bee's also saying not since Ay has anyone dodged V1.

Checkmate.
So basically to counter my argument, you used speculation, to which you have no evidence for, to back up your claims... Just quit this bullshit, I've solo'd your argument. Now you're claiming Naruto stopped and let Ay fly by.

Naruto did the exact same thing Minato did, hence the chapter being labeled, "2 Suns". Then in the next scan, Naruto then goes on to say he learned everything from his father! Naruto kept his speed the same until Ay approached a few inches away from Naruto's face, then just sped up and went past him, like Minato did. Unlike you, my claims make sense, and are backed up by the occurrences in the manga.
 
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So we can all agree that Sasuke's base speed is comparable to that of Ay's in the V1 lightning armor. ANd with comparable I dont say it is as fast, but he isn't too far off either.

BM NARUTO>=KM NARUTO>V2 RAITON ARMOR A>V1 RAITON ARMOR A=THIRD RAIKAGE>=SASUKE>SM NARUTO>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>NARUTO

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So basically to counter my argument, you used speculation, to which you have no evidence for, to back up your claims... Just quit this bullshit, I've solo'd your argument. Now you're claiming Naruto stopped and let Ay fly by.

Naruto did the exact same thing Minato did, hence the chapter being labeled, "2 Suns". Then in the next scan, Naruto then goes on to say he learned everything from his father! Naruto kept his speed the same until Ay approached a few inches away from Naruto's face, then just sped up and went past him, like Minato did. Unlike you, my claims make sense, and are backed up by the occurrences in the manga.
3 scans lmfao. That's nice that you call mine speculation. Really is, when nothing in the scan suggests naruto like you claim he did. But, I guess i'll take your word for it that minato trained naruto in evasion - I'm sure naruto's cloak makes a only when it's convenient for your argument right? Guess the scan of Sasuke doing exactly what I just said with bee means absolutely nothing; Not like kishi confirmed what I said is possible.

PS: I like how you defended the point that Bee essentially claimed sasuke was faster than him, possibly as Ay, based on your logic.
 
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Sasuke is around as fast as Naruto in sm.

Naruto Base<<Sasuke base
Sasuke base=Sm Naruto
Naruto Kcm>Sasuke's base speed
Bm>>>Sasuke's base speed.

Sasuke's perfect susanoo speed should be around Naruto's kcm though. Maybe not speed, but the fact his legs are so long it could go large distances though.

Bm is speed is WAAYYY out of Sasuke's speed though.

P.s. Whoever said Raikage's speed>=BM Naruto.
No.

Sasuke's base+sharingan=Ay v1
Ay v2>Sasuke's speed

Sm Naruto=<Ay's v1
Kcm Naruto> Ay's speed.
Bm Naruto>>>>>>>Ay's speed.
 

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Sasuke is around as fast as Naruto in sm.

Naruto Base<<Sasuke base
Sasuke base=Sm Naruto
Naruto Kcm>Sasuke's base speed
Bm>>>Sasuke's base speed.

Sasuke's perfect susanoo speed should be around Naruto's kcm though. Maybe not speed, but the fact his legs are so long it could go large distances though.

Bm is speed is WAAYYY out of Sasuke's speed though.

P.s. Whoever said Raikage's speed>=BM Naruto.
No.

Sasuke's base+sharingan=Ay v1
Ay v2>Sasuke's speed

Sm Naruto=<Ay's v1
Kcm Naruto> Ay's speed.
Bm Naruto>>>>>>>Ay's speed.
What this guy said is mostly the truth!
 

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I hate threads like these because the only thing you're comparing is still panels and shit.

As for speed wise

Sasuke > Base Naruto
SM Naruto, KCM Naruto & BM Naruto >>>> Sasuke

Naruto is the fastest ninja alive. Sasuke is probably 2nd or 3rd.
 

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I hate threads like these because the only thing you're comparing is still panels and shit.

As for speed wise

Sasuke > Base Naruto
SM Naruto, KCM Naruto & BM Naruto >>>> Sasuke

Naruto is the fastest ninja alive. Sasuke is probably 2nd or 3rd.
It goes like this, sir:

BM/KM Naruto>Sasuke>SM Naruto>>>>>>>base Naruto
 

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3 scans lmfao. That's nice that you call mine speculation. Really is, when nothing in the scan suggests naruto like you claim he did. But, I guess i'll take your word for it that minato trained naruto in evasion - I'm sure naruto's cloak makes a only when it's convenient for your argument right? Guess the scan of Sasuke doing exactly what I just said with bee means absolutely nothing; Not like kishi confirmed what I said is possible.

PS: I like how you defended the point that Bee essentially claimed sasuke was faster than him, possibly as Ay, based on your logic.
Your posts kill me. After I read this I had to go get a bowl of cereal. #LG

Everything you posted was speculation. In the first scan you posted, titled, "Moved", Naruto moves in a linear fashion(Like he did against Ay) of course appearing as though he's the yellow flash. No one said Naruto was trained in evasion by Minato. I was simply stating that the mangaka was showing us similarities between father and son. Unless you're implying the reason Kishi zoomed in on Naruto's cheek and Ay's fist,(Exactly like Minato vs Ay), was because he wanted to compare the size or some bullshit excuse you'll give me.

Naruto did make a speed trail when he dodged Ay, Kishi just didn't draw it. However, everyone else saw it, which is why they ...

Your counters are mediocre at best my friend.

Sasuke flipped over Bee, he didn't stop(Mid-air mind you), and let Bee fly by. That comparison doesn't even make sense to me tbh. That's why I didn't even address it. Unless of course you jest, Naruto did that exact same thing, and flipped over Ay. :rolleyes: (Kishi didn't confirm Naruto jumping over Ay, sorry).

PS: I chose not to comment on it because I assumed you posted the wrong scan. That doesn't show anything like Naruto, "running faster than" Ay. It shows Sasuke doing flips in mid-air to dodge Bee. My point is not to argue that Sasuke is faster than Bee, and Bee can claim that all he wants(It's not true as Bee fodderized him in base form anyway).

Bee was merely talking about Sasuke's reaction speed because that's how Sasuke dodged him right? Speed and Reaction are not the same thing. Killer Bee didn't know Sasuke could track his movements with his sharingan's pre cog, and that's why Sasuke was able to dodge. Had Bee known Sasuke was using that to pre-determine his movements, he would have returned back to his unorthodox kenjutsu form, and would have proceeded to fodderize him. (Happy to address anything posted by you)
 
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Speed comparasions generally leads to no where; and end up comparasions such as: "x reacted to y; but y failed to react z so z is about at same level in x; oh wait z dodged t who pawned x; so he gotta be faster yada yada..."

There is not such thing as "real speed"; a swimmer is faster than an athlete in water; but on land athlete would be able to move faster than swimer; so who is really faster and what is that "reality"; land or water? Or athlete is faster on foot but he would be overwhelmed by attacks of the boxer despite higher foot speed on land etc...

And there are severe misconceptions between reflexes/dodging/blocking/striking/movement/speed/keeping up etc when it comes to speed and i don't even wanna get into that.
 
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