Sasuke's Powers Unfair?

[Avani]

I'm going to avoid yet another argument over just how little you really understand. I get your opinion and i respect it but, you're really not getting alot. It doesn't matter how their parents died. Sasuke had to helplessly suffer the loss of his mom and dad at the hands of his brother first hand. Where as naruto just didn't have family. Naruto didn't lose anything because he never had anything to lose. I get itachi made it out to be that sasuke was a hero but, sasuke choose his love for his brother over being the hero of the people that killed his family. That's extremely reasonable. I, Myself, as a big brother, would prefer that my little brother do what he feels is right and if it comes with consequences and so on, then let them befall him.

I can say the same for you. His family was planning a coup- with a kind of terrorist reasoning- we don't feel we are treated well so we will kill everyone, we won't talk, we won't clarify our POV and our stand over the issue.

You don't cut yourself off this much from the main stream in a multi clutural society. Do You think faced with Nara, Hyuuga, aburame, Sarutobi they were not going to suffer any lose and no innocents were going to die in the process? They were elite but Konoha is full of talented guys. Madara wanted this to happen.

9/11 caused a lot of trouble for Muslims and South Asians in general in USA. Even Sikhs were targeted at times. Many of them were trying to resolve the issue by speaking out, making their stand clear and making efforts to clear their name. Would you support them if they say "oh USA is targetting us because of some idiot miles away in Afganistan. let's go and blast everything here? " USA ended up making acts like Patriot act even when they didn't act as a clan or plotted as a group to prevent that they do not do so. When Innocents died in Iraq or Afganistan bombing, USA told rest of the world that they were unavoidable casualities. ( I forget the exact fancy term used by USA for such deaths at the moment)

In almost every nation of the world even in RL the punishment is death sentence in such a case. it's not something taken lightly. SArutobi was trying to do the right thing and loking out for a compromise but Danzou and eldes were hard liners.

 

[DeathPulse16]

I can say the same for you. His family was planning a coup- with a kind of terrorist reasoning- we don't feel we are treated well so we will kill everyone, we won't talk, we won't clarify out POV and our stand over the issue. You don't cut yourself off this much from the main stream in a multi clutural society. Do You think faced with Nara, Hyuuga, aburame, Sarutobi they were not going to suffer any lose and no innocents were going to die in the process? They were elite but Konoha is full of talented guys. Madara wanted this to happen.

9/11 caused a lot of trouble for Muslims and South Asians in general in USA. Even Sikhs were targeted at times. Many of them were trying to resolve the issue by speaking out, making their stand clear and making efforts to clear their name. Would you support them if they say oh USA is targetting us because of some idiot miles away in Afganistan. let's go and blast everything here? USA ended up making acts like Patriot act even when they didn't act as a clan or plotted as a group to prevent that they do not do so. When Innocents died in Iraq or Afganistan bombing, USA told rest of the world that they were unavoidable casualities. ( I forget the exact fancy term used by USA for such deaths at the moment)

In almost every nation of the world even in RL the punishment is death sentence in such a case. it's not something taken lightly.

The fact that you have to drag something as terrible as 9/11 into a conversation to TRY to prove a point, is rather shameful.

 

[SasukeMangekyo5]

It's a matter of opinion and I strongly disagree on the issue about Itachi's intention and Sasuke's reaction. But, itachi had anticipated that too and he went to Naruto to solve that problem and eventually it will be taken care of.

Sasuke's character is there to make Naruto shine brighter- accept it or not.

BTW Naruto has lost all his family, all of them and hated by the village had to make his place for himself in the village, inch by inch- thanks to Uchiha madara- don't ignore that. He didn't meet his father- he got to see a reflection of his parents in his memory for a few minutes.

Naruto's parents died saving the village and he was hated by all- Sasuke's parents died trying to start a civil war and got sympathy because nobody knew the truth.

Itachi knew Madara won't let go the village nor his clan and ultimately destory both. He made a decision to contain him to the smaller group's destruction at the time , which was also posing the threat to the larger group. In return he bought time for the village to be ready for Madara when he finally makes his move for the whole pie.

Itachi made sure that Uchiha name was not tarnished and their plan of coup detate remains a secret- for that he took the rap and left the village. He left Sasuke to emerge as a hero and to reinstate the clan in time with no negative history.

Itachi was able to process this much at 13-14. Sasuke is at least 16. Sasuke may be a genious in his own way but Itachi was superior to him as a shinobi.

Sasuke lost his clan but he lived with pain and it happened thanks to Danzo and the Village Elder who are hypocrites and please don't make Naruto look as he was so poor never compare his pain with Sasuke's and do you all call it a "sin" to plan a coup d'etat when your clan is being disrespected for me the Uchiha were very brave to start a coup d'etat that's what we know even if the coup d'etat never happened, Konoha feared them lets accept this fact.

 

[Avani]

First Bold part

Sasuke suffered more pain than Naruto, that's one thing you can't reject he saw his clan being killed and suffered this trauma, Sasuke moved forward he lived with pain and his goal which made him stronger, he never gave up Naruto endured hate, he practiced but he was always a step behind Sasuke and I explained the reason.

Sasuke had parents till the age 10 to teach him. Naruto hadn't and practiced on his own. We can't really compare because Sasuke didn't had a Kyuubi to control.Kyuubi chakra acts as a poison rememeber? And you didn't explain anything to me- I checked out the last post.

Second Bold part

At the moment he defeated Danzo he was over-helmed by hatred and only cared about his desire to revenge ( because he waited so long to find the man who was responsible for the Uchiha massacre and know he couldn't wait to kill him) but Sasuke will never fall from his grace/light because he is achieving it and not losing it, that grace/ light was lost at the Uchiha massacre and Sasuke will find it again, because he will never give up... NEVER.

I will give you Danzou part but other half.. Sasuke has given up on the light at the moment. Revange is a negative emotion- that means darkness. karin commented on his dark chakra. Kyuubi called his chakra sinister.

First Bold part
Actually Itachi wanted to fight with Sasuke even if Itachi was "half-dead", Itachi wanted to give Sasuke his powers it was this the reason why he fought with Sasuke, before they fought he gave his power a long ago repeatingly to Sasuke, Sasuke never noticed that, he wanted Sasuke to survive, he wanted him to live with pain and at the end he gave his power to Sasuke and they weren't unfair but they were as a reward that he gave to Sasuke for coming that far and surviving in order to kill his brother, he entrusted his powers to Sasuke knowing that that his duty was finished, knowing that he would leave behind a brother which could survive, Itachi acted as Sasuke parent everytime.

Don't tell me that you believe the theory that Itachi was always transfering power in Sasuke when he tapped his forehead. U_U I mean i didn't expect that from a Sasuke fan lol..

Second Bold part
Naruto isn't stronger than Sasuke, I'm just sure about one thing: Sasuke's goal is to revive his clan he know that he must survive in order to do that either way no one will fulfill his goal and when he want to "survive" every single person must fear him, we have seen many times Sasuke's intelligence and he still has it but since Sasuke came so far and severed his bonds with the friends he had, he knows for sure how to handle the situation.

Sasuke's intelligence is in the bank locker at present and he forgot the key in Oro's hide out.U_U

As for being stronger than Naruto- Naruto is mentally stronger than Sasuke as was Itachi. Secondly Nruto wants Sasuke alive -he gave his word to Itachi- and to save Konoha as well. Sasuke has no such limitations. Naruto's goal is greater than Sasuke's. That dectates the story. Naruto will win and come out stronger of the two. He may die in the end or not but He would be the one saving Sasuke.

The fact that you have to drag something as terrible as 9/11 into a conversation to TRY to prove a point, is rather shameful.

You should be able to handle the harsh truth-it's shamful if you can't. In a fantacy you kept glorifying the similar things you wouldn't support in RL. I tried to be polite but, you were the one questioning my undrstanding of the issues. I had to pick an example you could understand.

Sasuke lost his clan but he lived with pain and it happened thanks to Danzo and the Village Elder who are hypocrites and please don't make Naruto look as he was so poor never compare his pain with Sasuke's and do you all call it a "sin" to plan a coup d'etat when your clan is being disrespected for me the Uchiha were very brave to start a coup d'etat that's what we know even if the coup d'etat never happened, Konoha feared them lets accept this fact.

Get real. -Have you ever given a thought just how many sasukes would have been made if Uchihas were allowed to have their own way? They didn' give a damn about concequences. I guess some of you guys would really justify 9/11 if it were not on your own homeland.

It's not like Uchihas were surely would have won the war and survived too. They would have certainly weakenned konoha and left it open for everyone to grab on, including Madara.

 

[SasukeMangekyo5]

Sasuke had parents till the age 10 to teach him. Naruto hadn't and practiced on his own. We can't really compare because Sasuke didn't had a Kyuubi to control.Kyuubi chakra acts as a poison rememeber? And you didn't explain anything to me- I checked out the last post.


I will give you Danzou part but other half.. Sasuke has given up on the light at the moment. Revange is a negative emotion- that means darkness. karin commented on his dark chakra. Kyuubi called his chakra sinister.





Don't tell me that you believe the theory that Itachi was always transfering power in Sasuke when he tapped his forehead. U_U I mean i didn't expect that from a Sasuke fan lol..




Sasuke's intelligence is in the bank locker at present and he forgot the key in Oro's hide out.U_U

As for being stronger than Naruto- Naruto is mentally stronger than Sasuke as was Itachi. Secondly Nruto wants Sasuke alive -he gave his word to Itachi- and to save Konoha as well. Sasuke has no such limitations. Naruto's goal is greater than Sasuke's. That dectates the story. Naruto will win and come out stronger of the two. He may die in the end or not but He would be the one saving Sasuke.

Itachi may transfered his powers to Sasuke, is it a "sin" to say that, if I am Sasuke-fan I can't believe in something which may be true... So shameful
Please Fugaku Uchiha never payed attention to Sasuke he was concentrated on Itachi but when Sasuke was starting to have his father's attention Itachi massacred his clan so Sasuke was never practiced with his parents , NEVER.
It's meaningless if we proceed like this, I keep saying real facts to you and you still don't agree with them I GUESS YOU ARE A Naruto-fan, Naruto admitted himself that Sasuke was stronger than him I didn't expect that from a Naruto-fan you are denying the reality, I cannot accept when you say that Naruto suffered more, was hated but he endured it more than Sasuke because it's untrue have you ever wondered why Sasuke was always stronger than Naruto because of his pain but anyway I know that you still will reject what I said, but please do not try to make Naruto in every way more poor than Sasuke because it's more painful when you are grown up with your parents love, when you start to have your father company rather then to be grown without love. Why? Because Sasuke was born with his parents love, he started to have his father attention not too long before Uchiha clan massacre and then he lived without that love because it's more hard when you know someone and you have to leave him forever rather than not knowing that person ALSO you are wrong about Sasuke's intelligence... AND DON'T BE SO SURE ABOUT Naruto winning against Sasuke... Naruto-fan

 

[Avani]

Itachi may transfered his powers to Sasuke, is it a "sin" to say that, if I am Sasuke-fan I can't believe in something which may be true... So shameful
Please Fugaku Uchiha never payed attention to Sasuke he was concentrated on Itachi but when Sasuke was starting to have his father's attention Itachi massacred his clan so Sasuke was never practiced with his parents , NEVER.
It's meaningless if we proceed like this, I keep saying real facts to you and you still don't agree with them I GUESS YOU ARE A Naruto-fan, Naruto admitted himself that Sasuke was stronger than him I didn't expect that from a Naruto-fan you are denying the reality, I cannot accept when you say that Naruto suffered more, was hated but he endured it more than Sasuke because it's untrue have you ever wondered why Sasuke was always stronger than Naruto because of his pain but anyway I know that you still will reject what I said, but please do not try to make Naruto in every way more poor than Sasuke because it's more painful when you are grown up with your parents love, when you start to have your father company rather then to be grown without love. Why? Because Sasuke was born with his parents love, he started to have his father attention not too long before Uchiha clan massacre and then he lived without that love because it's more hard when you know someone and you have to leave him forever rather than not knowing that person ALSO you are wrong about Sasuke's intelligence... AND DON'T BE SO SURE ABOUT Naruto winning against Sasuke... Naruto-fan

Ah You ignored most of my points and concentrated on ranting.

I wonder if you realized among all this that you are undermining Sasuke's intelligence and efforts when you say that Itachi was transfering his powers into Sasuke just like that and actually proving this thread that he got his powers a bit too easily.:flaw:

About the masscre = the massacre took place when Itachi was around 14. His father had lost hope in Itachi when he killed Shisui at 11... So I would say never use NEVER. And Itachi helped him out and according to your own self kept giving him power without him knowing..xd

I'm not trying to say that Naruto was poor, I said he emerged stronger. I don't think you read what posted previously throughly- too long for you.xd

And I'm an Itachi fan and Naruto manga fan and Minato and Nagato and I like Jiraiya and Tsunade is cool and Sasuke was cool before he lost the key of his bak locker.

Seriously - I meant no offence when I said Sasuke fan, I don't care if someone likes a particular character of manga- I was surprised that you believed that theory as it elevates Itachi's capabilities but undermines Sasuke. I don't believe in it precisely for this reason.

 

[Kuroi Honoo]

I will no longer debate with you on the many different topics that arose. I see that it is pointless and I do respect your opinion but our points of view differ greatly therefore I will cease. However, there was one thing I thought I needed to address which was:​

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Itachi attined MS at the age of 11 and yet it took a longer for him to lose his eye sight.

Well, has it ever occurred to you that his blindness was prolonged for so long due to simply not using it as mush as Sasuke did? That his enemies whilst in Akatsuki were inferior to him therefore no need to resort to tap into his more powerful consuming techniques? Or that Itachi attempted to stay out of most of the fights as possible allowing Kisame to do his bidding that way he would not bloody his hands being the pacifist he was revealed to truly be? Then there is the one biggest possibility of all; how every Uchiha who is able to aquire Mangekyou differs in terms of eyesight deterioration.


Back to Topic: This is the main reason why I think this thread was made prejudiced and is due to this very statement by Itachi:

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It goes to show that if you were to make a thread about unfair power it should not be limited to just Sasuke but rather all eye users and or ninja of high ranking techniques. For e.g. Itachi murders his best friend attaining Mangekyou and several days later proceeds with the massacre not having shown him training, etc. and or Nagato who awakened his Rinnegan through distress after losing his parents again having no previous knowledge of the doujutsu and its techniques.​

 

[Avani]

Well, has it ever occurred to you that his blindness was prolonged for so long due to simply not using it as mush as Sasuke did? That his enemies whilst in Akatsuki were inferior to him therefore no need to resort to tap into his more powerful consuming techniques? Or that Itachi attempted to stay out of most of the fights as possible allowing Kisame to do his bidding that way he would not bloody his hands being the pacifist he was revealed to truly be? Then there is the one biggest possibility of all; how every Uchiha who is able to aquire Mangekyou differs in terms of eyesight deterioration.


Back to Topic: This is the main reason why I think this thread was made prejudiced and is due to this very statement by Itachi:

Spoiler

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It goes to show that if you were to make a thread about unfair power it should not be limited to just Sasuke but rather all eye users and or ninja of high ranking techniques. For e.g. Itachi murders his best friend attaining Mangekyou and several days later proceeds with the massacre not having shown him training, etc. and or Nagato who awakened his Rinnegan through distress after losing his parents again having no previous knowledge of the doujutsu and its techniques.

Yes it occurd to me and I think Madara purposely sent him to kage meeting because he had refused to take Itachi's eye before. he knew Sasuke wouldn't be able to face 5 kages at the same time at that moment and end up doing what Madara wanted him to do from the start- getting EMs.

As for Itachi= he killed shisui at 11 and the massacre took place after he was made ambu captain at 13. so it was not just days- at least a gap of two years- probably more- since he had attained MS. Itachi's non sharingan Genjutsu was also quite strong and he didn't depend on MS only.

Nagato used his rinnegan first time accidentlly but had no memory about how he had done it. Jiraiya stayed with him for three years to train him how to control his powers along with his friends.

I don't see relevance of Itachi's statement here nor I understand why you used spoiler tag for the manga link. It serves no purpose in this case and thus it is inconvinient.

About the thread title you are complaining to the wrong person. Still, since you addressed me, I think it's a matter of opinion. The OP probably wanted general opinion about sasuke's character only and not all KGs or eye techs.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

Yes it occurd to me and I think Madara purposely sent him to kage meeting because he had refuced to take Itachi's eye before. he knew Sasuke wouldn't be able to face 5 kages at the same time at that moment and end up doing what Madara wanted him to do from the start- getting EMs.

As for Itachi= he killed shisui at 11 and the massacre took place after he was made ambu captain at 13. so it was not just days- at least a gap of two years- probably more- since he had attained MS. Itachi's non sharingan Genjutsu was also quite strong and he didn't depend on MS only.

Nagato used his rinnegan first time accidentlly but had no memory about how he had done it. Jiraiya stayed with him for three years to train him how to control his powers along with his friends.

I don't see relevance of Itachi's statement here nor I understand why you used spoiler tag for the manga link. It serves no purpose in this case and thus it is inconvinient.

About the thread title you are complaining to the wrong person. Still, since you addressed me, I think it's a matter of opinion. The OP probably wanted general opinion about sasuke's character only and not all KGs or eye techs.

i thought itachi became a memeber of black ops at age 13

 

[Avani]

i thought itachi became a memeber of black ops at age 13

No. he joined the academy at age 7 and passed out at 8. joined ambu at 11 the same time Sasuke was admitted in the academy- his father had forgotten about Sasuke in excitement of Itachi joining ambu. After 6 months of it shisui ended up dead and his father says to Itachi that Shisui was asked to keep an eye on Itachi because clan suspected his loyalities. at 13 he became the captain of the Ambu.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

No. he joined the academy at age 7 and passed out at 8. joined ambu at 11 the same time Sasuke was admitted in the academy- his father had forgotten about Sasuke in excitement of Itachi joining ambu. After 6 months of it shisui ended up dead and his father says to Itachi that Shisui was asked to keep an eye on Itachi because clan suspected his loyalities. at 13 he became the captain of the Ambu.

aaaa well i have that part saved in the manga somewhere i always save the important things so i wont have to re read the manga again lol

 

[SasukeMangekyo5]

Ah You ignored most of my points and concentrated on ranting.

I wonder if you realized among all this that you are undermining Sasuke's intelligence and efforts when you say that Itachi was transfering his powers into Sasuke just like that and actually proving this thread that he got his powers a bit too easily.:flaw:

About the masscre = the massacre took place when Itachi was around 14. His father had lost hope in Itachi when he killed Shisui at 11... So I would say never use NEVER. And Itachi helped him out and according to your own self kept giving him power without him knowing..xd

I'm not trying to say that Naruto was poor, I said he emerged stronger. I don't think you read what posted previously throughly- too long for you.xd

And I'm an Itachi fan and Naruto manga fan and Minato and Nagato and I like Jiraiya and Tsunade is cool and Sasuke was cool before he lost the key of his bak locker.

Seriously - I meant no offence when I said Sasuke fan, I don't care if someone likes a particular character of manga- I was surprised that you believed that theory as it elevates Itachi's capabilities but undermines Sasuke. I don't believe in it precisely for this reason.

Dude, it's meaningless I'm wasting my time and we still can't agree... I'm not discussing anymore since you will argue again and you will say bullcraps like I never read the post ( I wouldn't reply if I wouldn't read them) I guess only Sasuke's fans (as a friend of me said in this forum) can acknowledge his actions and not anyone, I guess the same happens with me and you maybe you won't understand his actions never, I can't just agree with PEOPLES WHO KEEP ARGUING AND QUESTIONING A TRUE FACT, anyway as if it would matter to you, you would still argue me U_U

 

[Avani]

Dude, it's meaningless I'm wasting my time and we still can't agree... I'm not discussing anymore since you will argue again and you will say bullcraps like I never read the post ( I wouldn't reply if I wouldn't read them) I guess only Sasuke's fans (as a friend of me said in this forum) can acknowledge his actions and not anyone, I guess the same happens with me and you maybe you won't understand his actions never, I can't just agree with PEOPLES WHO KEEP ARGUING AND QUESTIONING A TRUE FACT, anyway as if it would matter to you, you would still argue me U_U

Yawn*

Just agree to disagree dear. I can call your arguments bullcrap since if you really read my post then you would answer all my points instead of posting a rant taking an offence which was never really meant.

If you were expecting to convert me with your arguments then you were wasting your time- that's the only true fact here. Rest are just different POVs. :|

 

[PositiveEmotions]

there are no true facts here

 

[SasukeMangekyo5]

Yawn*

Just agree to disagree dear. I can call your arguments bullcrap since if you really read my post then you would answer all my points instead of posting a rant taking an offence which was never really meant.

If you were expecting to convert me with your arguments then you were wasting your time- that's the only true fact here. Rest are just different POVs. :|

I never tried to convince you because you would definitely disagree thats what I learned.

there are no true facts here

What do you mean?

 

[Kuroi Honoo]

Yes it occurd to me and I think Madara purposely sent him to kage meeting because he had refused to take Itachi's eye before. he knew Sasuke wouldn't be able to face 5 kages at the same time at that moment and end up doing what Madara wanted him to do from the start- getting EMs.

I understand that Madara’s intention was for Sasuke to exhaust his eyes. However, what everyone does not seem to take into account and thus this thread’s point is that there have been breaks where Sasuke and his doujutsu are concerned. After the brief Kirabi capture arc Team Taka take a break and who is to say that Sasuke learned about his two Susanoo techniques then? Madara even stated "A new Kuchiyose eh? When did he learn that?" which revealed not even Madara was aware when he made the contract. In other words, their is elapsed time when Sasuke has taken a break where he could have trained, contracted, etc. Not to mention the battle experience is very relevant to his doujutsu. Not having time enough to perfect his doujutsu results in him having to abuse of it when he’s faced powerful ninja and thus the practice to perform better.

As for Itachi= he killed shisui at 11 and the massacre took place after he was made ambu captain at 13. so it was not just days- at least a gap of two years- probably more- since he had attained MS. Itachi's non sharingan Genjutsu was also quite strong and he didn't depend on MS only.

Well, you got me here as I was off by way more than just days. However, you too are incorrect as I researched from the time of unlocking Mangekyou to the time of the massacre. I discovered that it was more in between six months rather than "at least a gap of two years- probably more" as you stated. You were correct with his age of 13 when he committed the murders as the massacre was five years before the start of the series and in part one he was age seventeen to eighteen.

I don't see relevance of Itachi's statement here nor I understand why you used spoiler tag for the manga link. It serves no purpose in this case and thus it is inconvinient.

The relevance to his statement is that there are more than just Sasuke who are overpowered with their doujutsu and or how unfair it is. The spoiler tag was of course for an anime watcher not to stumble across the manga they do not read as I’ve seen many referring to the anime only.

About the thread title you are complaining to the wrong person. Still, since you addressed me, I think it's a matter of opinion. The OP probably wanted general opinion about sasuke's character only and not all KGs or eye techs.

Well, I was actually addressing the thread rather as I stated "Back to Topic". I believe that Sasuke’s powers excluding Eien no Mangekyou/Ten no Juin aren’t unfair as he has had to meet the requirements for the each unlockment. He awakened Mangekyou through the distress of losing his brother, Tsukuyomi (still debatable whether or not it is) seems to have either unlocked through some performance unseen to us or that it may simply have been the first usable doujutsu when Mangekyou is awakened, he unlocked Amaterasu through an emotional moment with his team mates, his Aamaterasu Shield though not confirmed may not have been an instant power-up as Sasuke uses it first for awhile before releasing Susanoo. Coupled with Juugo’s quote seems to represent prior knowledge of the doujutsu before entering the Kage summit. Until Kishi reveals to us how Sasuke acquired these doujutsu whether through the breaks he’s had or through a power-up one cannot be to quick to state their claims as fact.​

 

[PositiveEmotions]

I never tried to convince you because you would definitely disagree thats what I learned.




What do you mean?

well everybody in here always tries to prove a fact but really the other person might still not believe the facts so really theres no facts for allot of nb users in here

 

[SasukeMangekyo5]

well everybody in here always tries to prove a fact but really the other person might still not believe the facts so really theres no facts for allot of nb users in here

I see, anyway what do you think about the thread?

 

[Avani]

I understand that Madara’s intention was for Sasuke to exhaust his eyes. However, what everyone does not seem to take into account and thus this thread’s point is that there have been breaks where Sasuke and his doujutsu are concerned. After the brief Kirabi capture arc Team Taka take a break and who is to say that Sasuke learned about his two Susanoo techniques then? Madara even stated "A new Kuchiyose eh? When did he learn that?" which revealed not even Madara was aware when he made the contract. In other words, their is elapsed time when Sasuke has taken a break where he could have trained, contracted, etc. Not to mention the battle experience is very relevant to his doujutsu. Not having time enough to perfect his doujutsu results in him having to abuse of it when he’s faced powerful ninja and thus the practice to perform better.



Well, you got me here as I was off by way more than just days. However, you too are incorrect as I researched from the time of unlocking Mangekyou to the time of the massacre. I discovered that it was more in between six months rather than "at least a gap of two years- probably more" as you stated. You were correct with his age of 13 when he committed the murders as the massacre was five years before the start of the series and in part one he was age seventeen to eighteen.



The relevance to his statement is that there are more than just Sasuke who are overpowered with their doujutsu and or how unfair it is. The spoiler tag was of course for an anime watcher not to stumble across the manga they do not read as I’ve seen many referring to the anime only.



Well, I was actually addressing the thread rather as I stated "Back to Topic". I believe that Sasuke’s powers excluding Eien no Mangekyou/Ten no Juin aren’t unfair as he has had to meet the requirements for the each unlockment. He awakened Mangekyou through the distress of losing his brother, Tsukuyomi (still debatable whether or not it is) seems to have either unlocked through some performance unseen to us or that it may simply have been the first usable doujutsu when Mangekyou is awakened, he unlocked Amaterasu through an emotional moment with his team mates, his Aamaterasu Shield though not confirmed may not have been an instant power-up as Sasuke uses it first for awhile before releasing Susanoo. Coupled with Juugo’s quote seems to represent prior knowledge of the doujutsu before entering the Kage summit. Until Kishi reveals to us how Sasuke acquired these doujutsu whether through the breaks he’s had or through a power-up one cannot be to quick to state their claims as fact.​

I understand what you are trying to say and agree to the points from that angle mostly. However you are ignoring the POV of the many readers. It's not just about about KGs or doujutsu.

a lot of people feel for Itachi and have respect for his sacrifice and Sasuke's decision to ignore Itachi's sacrifice and last wish and joining Madara instead is disappointing from that angle.

Itachi planned the fight in a way to give maximum advatage to Sasuke and awaken his MS power, get rid of Oro's mark and now he got EMS too. He wanted it to be used in favour of Konoha not against it. Sasuke got the powers but decided to do the just opposite of everything Itachi wanted- that's what makes his powers unfair to many people.- they feel he was given a great gift and he decided to misuse it.

Anyway.. as for spoiler tags I understand now that yuou explained but - if really anyone doesn't want spoilers they should stay away from this thread altogether.

Itachi was joined ambu at age 11... manga 222.. shisui dies...Sasuke has joined the academi. massacre didn't take place till he was made ambu captain that was at the age of 13 (kakashi tells kurenai when Itachi returned to konoha after 3-4 years). so the time gap is certainly more than 6 months.

 

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I see, anyway what do you think about the thread?

stupid i mean the tittle of the thread itself its not stupid tho i could understand the creator of this thread and he/she wants opinings but the thing is some people take it to the butt and act as if naruto universe were real people its pathetic they get all butt hurt because someone says something bad about their favorite character and its dumb they need to get a life no offence for those who read this msg but the truth hurts lol but over all the tread became terrible because of the people bashing each other