[Discussion] Sasuke's Plan

[guts2nevergiveup]

Naruto dies is the outcome, folks. Seriously. It's manga. Yes, title characters die. Yes, they lose.

U think so? And what about sasuke? He dies too or lives on?

 

[guts2nevergiveup]

I think it should end with Kakashi as Hokage for now, since Obito said he would be the 6th, and Naruto would be the 7th. Naruto wins the full trust and love the people, and he offers his hand to Sasuke, who lost, but Naruto refused to kill, and Sasuke just smiles and says his path isn't with them and walks off to find a new start since he lost all his powers. Enter the movie and we find out what happened. That's just one of many possible scenarios imo.

That actually wouldn't be that bad. I'm not a big fan of sasuke coming back and leaving again and just sitting on the sidelines after doing all this bit you set it up nicely

 

[Lady M]

That actually wouldn't be that bad. I'm not a big fan of sasuke coming back and leaving again and just sitting on the sidelines after doing all this bit you set it up nicely

I write a lot of fanfics, it kind of just comes to me. Lol

I used to think they would co-rule, but after that last chapter, I don't think he will ever be welcomed in Konoha again...

 

[guts2nevergiveup]

I write a lot of fanfics, it kind of just comes to me. Lol

I used to think they would co-rule, but after that last chapter, I don't think he will ever be welcomed in Konoha again...

Yea it's pretty good.

And ikr I used to think the same thing but that's out the window now haha

 

[Lady M]

Yea it's pretty good.

And ikr I used to think the same thing but that's out the window now haha

I think another possible ending, which would anger many is, Indra and Ashura's spirits are released and put to rest finally, making Sasuke suddenly the sweet boy he was before he was overcome by destiny and the curse of hatred. Or worse, Naruto touches him and his power brings light to Sasuke, purifying him. Lol

I actually see them ending the battle on equal terms, and the spirits finally acknowledge they are brothers who should not have fought and worked together instead. This would of course be slightly TNJ on Naruto's part tho.

 

[guts2nevergiveup]

I think another possible ending, which would anger many is, Indra and Ashura's spirits are released and put to rest finally, making Sasuke suddenly the sweet boy he was before he was overcome by destiny and the curse of hatred. Or worse, Naruto touches him and his power brings light to Sasuke, purifying him. Lol

I actually seeing them ending the battle on equal terms, and the spirits finally acknowledge they are brothers who should not have fought and worked together instead. This would of course be slightly TNJ on Naruto's part tho.

That's actually really good imo. If it ends like that I would be satisfied. I mean I don't want it to be like sasuke didn't actually want everything he did, but it would be cool to see that he becomes more understanding bc of it and as a result they come to an agreement

 

[Lady M]

That's actually really good imo. If it ends like that I would be satisfied. I mean I don't want it to be like sasuke didn't actually want everything he did, but it would be cool to see that he becomes more understanding bc of it and as a result they come to an agreement

I think that is the only thing that failed in the past. The 2 becoming equal and working together. Ashura and Indra died fighting, Hashirama killed Madara, the only logical way to end it is both Naruto and Sasuke living.

 

[guts2nevergiveup]

I think that is the only thing that failed in the past. The 2 becoming equal and working together. Ashura and Indra died fighting, Hashirama killed Madara, the only logical way to end it is both Naruto and Sasuke living.

I agree. Hopefully kishi won't disappoint

 

[Jnaru]

Naruto dies is the outcome, folks. Seriously. It's manga. Yes, title characters die. Yes, they lose.

No he won't die, it doesn't make sense... ... Not because he is title char but that isn't the answer manga is looking for

 

[narutotails]

Everything seems to be getting resolved but last chapter told us that the Sage doesn't know how his mother became the way she did when she ate the chakra fruit. May by is Naruto finds out during the fight, he might bring Sasuke back. Maybe Sasuke ate the fruit somehow without knowing. Maybe Black ZetSu is the what the fruit became and just like when White ZetSu were inside of him without his knowledge, may be a piece of BZ has been in him for a long time as well. Don't know any of this but the chakra fruit piece is not resolve and might be part of the problem that needs resolving if Naruto wants to stop the sibling rivalry for good.

 

[guts2nevergiveup]

Everything seems to be getting resolved but last chapter told us that the Sage doesn't know how his mother became the way she did when she ate the chakra fruit. May by is Naruto finds out during the fight, he might bring Sasuke back. Maybe Sasuke ate the fruit somehow without knowing. Maybe Black ZetSu is the what the fruit became and just like when White ZetSu were inside of him without his knowledge, may be a piece of BZ has been in him for a long time as well. Don't know any of this but the chakra fruit piece is not resolve and might be part of the problem that needs resolving if Naruto wants to stop the sibling rivalry for good.

I never really thought about that but that's very interesting. Maybe there is smth of that nature behind is behavior which naruto figured out

 

[narutotails]

Well, the So6P said that it doesn't matter how the power are split, results don't change. If Naruto wants to stop this forever, then he either seal both of them or find a way for the chakra or whatever the root of the problem is, to stop turning others evil. I just assume the chakra fruit has all to do with it and with time, Sasuke won't have a heart either.

 

[Byron123]

Well, it depends o the control Sasuke has over IT. If for example he can interfere with their brains and feelings. He might brainwash them into liking him and hate Naruto. If that happens, he wins.

 

[Immortal Sasuke]

Hagoromo somehow ended up with both seals despite initially only having one. Sasuke probably plans on taking Naruto's sun seal for himself.

I think this will be cleared up in the next few chapters, Naruto will ask him how he plans to dispel IT with just his moon seal and Sasuke will tell him that he plans on taking his. I'd imagine we'll find out how Hagoromo got Hamura's seal in a flashback.

 

[guts2nevergiveup]

Well, it depends o the control Sasuke has over IT. If for example he can interfere with their brains and feelings. He might brainwash them into liking him and hate Naruto. If that happens, he wins.

That's interesting. however i doubt it's possible for sasuke to have control over IT. First, I think the this rinnegan eye odds needed and also on a basic level he is not the one who cast the genjustu so I don't think he can intervene and control it, right?

 

[guts2nevergiveup]

Hagoromo somehow ended up with both seals despite initially only having one. Sasuke probably plans on taking Naruto's sun seal for himself.

I think this will be cleared up in the next few chapters, Naruto will ask him how he plans to dispel IT with just his moon seal and Sasuke will tell him that he plans on taking his. I'd imagine we'll find out how Hagoromo got Hamura's seal in a flashback.

Holy boobs! You may be onto smth. It's true that maybe there is a way for sasuke to get naruto's seal. I'm pretty sure sasuke doesn't know how to do that but it may be a possibility.thx for sharing, I haven't thought of that before

 

[Trea]

Naruto really doesn't have a plan other than protecting the things and people that he cares about, which has come to mean most of the alliance for him. He realizes constant wars, fighting and violence are not going to change things but really has no plan how to proceed that we know of. He knows there needs to be change but like Juraiya and Minato he's not sure how to go about it. He has been making changes in his own small way, TNJ and the decision not to kill people who have differing opinions than him. If he has been formulating a plan in the course of the war he has yet to say so.

On the other hand, Sasuke has a plan but is going about it the wrong way. Sasuke has learned nothing from the current situation. He has learned nothing from seeing BZ, Madara and Obito pulling the strings to force their will on everyone. He fought against them but is still ready to use their tactics (murdering any one who can oppose him) to reach his goal. He will end up like they did because if you don't learn from the mistakes of the past you are destined to repeat them.

If he was so sure his way is correct what would he have to lose by waking everyone up from IT and seeing how many people agree with his revolution? Why not see if the current circumstances changed the kages just like he claims he has changed from wanting revenge to wanting to change the system? Why is it only possible for him to change and no one else? BZ, Madara and Ob ito were manipulating the kages as well as the Uchiha. Why does Sasuke deserve a pass on the manipulation and not the kages?

 

[Honord Sage]

From Indra to Sasuke and every Uchiha in-between We now know what an Uchiha is a would be dictator/tyrant/Traitor not to trusted.

 

[guts2nevergiveup]

Naruto really doesn't have a plan other than protecting the things and people that he cares about, which has come to mean most of the alliance for him. He realizes constant wars, fighting and violence are not going to change things but really has no plan how to proceed that we know of. He knows there needs to be change but like Juraiya and Minato he's not sure how to go about it. He has been making changes in his own small way, TNJ and the decision not to kill people who have differing opinions than him. If he has been formulating a plan in the course of the war he has yet to say so.

On the other hand, Sasuke has a plan but is going about it the wrong way. Sasuke has learned nothing from the current situation. He has learned nothing from seeing BZ, Madara and Obito pulling the strings to force their will on everyone. He fought against them but is still ready to use their tactics (murdering any one who can oppose him) to reach his goal. He will end up like they did because if you don't learn from the mistakes of the past you are destined to repeat them.

If he was so sure his way is correct what would he have to lose by waking everyone up from IT and seeing how many people agree with his revolution? Why not see if the current circumstances changed the kages just like he claims he has changed from wanting revenge to wanting to change the system? Why is it only possible for him to change and no one else? BZ, Madara and Ob ito were manipulating the kages as well as the Uchiha. Why does Sasuke deserve a pass on the manipulation and not the kages?

Very well put trea, as always. I agree 100% which reinforces my idea that they compliment and need each other. Naruto had a clear intention but no clear plan and sasuke the opposite really.

Also I like what you said in the second paragraph. With the whole alliance thing now I feel like they have never been closer to peace and it's already different then what it was before. The kages have changed, and sasuke is really dumb and a hypocrite for putting this plan in action at this point.

 

[Aim64C]

What is sasuke's plan?

It's exactly what I've said it would be since we saw this panel:

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Which is way back in 639.

His plan is to use the fruit and create a new world. One that functions according to his vision of perfect reality.

For that, he really doesn't need anyone to be alive.