sasuke's most underrated technique

[Οdin]

I would be greatly disappointed if something like that were to hit Naruto. I know Kishi has been limiting Naruto's use of his speed... but come on...

 

[slimreaper]

Oh really.

Can you present any proof? The Zetsu are fodder, any jutsu can drop them.

all are followed. even if they dodge the initial attack sasuke just turns and follows them. kinda like Gatling gun. only with a wider spread. really how do they evade? you must think these move as fast as like a baseball but clearly they don't. but its whatever stay in denial

 

[slimreaper]

They don't need to be speedsters to dodge kunai-speed attacks that even slower ninjas dodge all day and no the enton aren't throwed like you mention. I don't see Sasuke's Susanoo throwing something on the picture. Enton also can't spread on ground. Fire only spread on materials like wood

here we see an arrow moving in a panel

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it must be about the same speed as a kunai aswell

 

[slimreaper]

I have found that the "they are hating" accusation is always used by people who are driven into a corner. Whenever someone faces a logical argument that proves them wrong, they just sit there and say that they are hating.

what logical argument is that? you're the one being illogical. an attack has enough velocity to forcefully throw someone off their feet but its about as fast as throwing a knife? what sense does that make?

 

[Blunt]

They don't need to be speedsters to dodge kunai-speed attacks that even slower ninjas dodge all day and no the enton aren't throwed like you mention. I don't see Sasuke's Susanoo throwing something on the picture. Enton also can't spread on ground. Fire only spread on materials like wood

You thought process is quite linear, you understand what I mean't by saying thrown. They were "shot" by Sasuke. Though you have a point about Amaterasu not spreading on dirt ground, the flames are still there. Making their offensive that much harder to perform. Since this will go no where, we will just have to agree to disagree. Because I know how you are, you never like to be incorrect. Which i've observed over the time you've spent on the base.

 

[-Sky-]

though this is amaterasu flames. this technique isn't amaterasu. its enton magatama.


1. no build up

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if he needed to build up everyone it would take forever.

2. look at the width it covers in the original scan. compared to amaterasu it is immense.

3. amaterasu doesn't shoot it spawns where the user is looking. enton magatama can be controlled so sasuke can just shoot ahead of naruto and its gg

Wrong, Sasuke has to put his Susano'o up. Danger sensing will see this coming.

Note Sasuke starts off with an aura:

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Which then progresses into Complete Susano'o:

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The technique still requires build up time, it's just that his EMS is capable of building up both Susan'o and Amaterasu at the same time.

@ 2; The width of the technique was defined by the amount of Zetsu's, however, Naruto doesn't have to stay in that width, his foot speed is more than fast enough to escape the area.

@ 3; Itachi was incapable of keeping his Amaterasu's speed against Sasuke, and Sasuke was incapable of firing Amaterasu in front of the Raikage, who is slower than Naruto.

Just because Amaterasu is coming out of Susano'o's palm, does not mean that the speed is increased in any way.

 

[AlphaScythian]

@ Bold: Amaterasu has build up time. It's been said that it does many times. Just because Susano'o is holding it, doesn't change the fact that Sasuke still has to put his Susano'o up along with Amaterasu. Also, it does not change the fact that Naruto would sense danger do to his sensing skills.

Susanoo build up time is under a lightning strike.

@ Underlined: No, he will not have to change direction. Why would he have to change direction? He can run in a straight line all day if he wants to.

Yes he will. If angle of attack will be too much to outrun, if sasuke will readjust and shot b4 head.

@ Red: Featless, holds no bearing.

Yes we can all assume both versions of susanoo are equally powerful by this, Never mind that PS had no problem keeping up with BM whatsoever.

 

[Bogard]

You thought process is quite linear, you understand what I mean't by saying thrown. They were "shot" by Sasuke. Though you have a point about Amaterasu not spreading on dirt ground, the flames are still there. Making their offensive that much harder to perform. Since this will go no where, we will just have to agree to disagree. Because I know how you are, you never like to be incorrect. Which i've observed over the time you've spent on the base.

My point exactly. When you throw something there is a force behind, but in magatamas case there is no force behind. They are apparently just guided out of the sphere according to Sasuke's will to hit an intended target. The speed of an attack depends on the amount of force used to project the attack. Without a force, it's significantly slower, but well i guess we'll just have to agree to disagree

 

[slimreaper]

Wrong, Sasuke has to put his Susano'o up. Danger sensing will see this coming.

Note Sasuke starts off with an aura:

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Which then progresses into Complete Susano'o:

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The technique still requires build up time, it's just that his EMS is capable of building up both Susan'o and Amaterasu at the same time.

@ 2; The width of the technique was defined by the amount of Zetsu's, however, Naruto doesn't have to stay in that width, his foot speed is more than fast enough to escape the area.

@ 3; Itachi was incapable of keeping his Amaterasu's speed against Sasuke, and Sasuke was incapable of firing Amaterasu in front of the Raikage, who is slower than Naruto.

Just because Amaterasu is coming out of Susano'o's palm, does not mean that the speed is increased in any way.

you are talking about amaterasu. this isn't the technique amaterasu. because it spawns where the user is looking. immense speed can fool someone who is trying to look directly at a target. because sasuke doesn't need to look directly on naruto to fire enton magatama then sasuke would have no trouble shooting in front of naruto.

 

[-ahhimane-]

Lol, and he still didn't used this technique when the Juubi sent its minions. XD

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BM cloak: Now Im not suggesting this attack would end naruto, but it could potentially get naruto to remove his entire cloak.

Naruto simply creates a layer of chakra of Kyuubi chakra from within and lifts the Amaterasu flames which were burning him. And then throws away the flames.

We have seen Nagato Shinra Tensei the flames. ST uses chakra to push everything aside.
I'm not saying Naruto will get the rinnegan or something but his Kyuubi cloak is capable of doing this. OR he simply pulls out a chakra arm where the flames hits him.

 

[slimreaper]

My point exactly. When you throw something there is a force behind, but in magatamas case there is no force behind. They are apparently just guided out of the sphere according to Sasuke's will to hit an intended target. The speed of an attack depends on the amount of force used to project the attack. Without a force, it's significantly slower, but well i guess we'll just have to agree to disagree

how the **** can you say there is no force? it FORCEFULLY REMOVED THE ZETSU FROM THEIR FEET.

 

[slimreaper]

Lol, and he still didn't used this technique when the Juubi sent its minions. XD

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Naruto simply creates a layer of chakra of Kyuubi chakra from within and lifts the Amaterasu flames which were burning him. And then throws away the flames.

We have seen Nagato Shinra Tensei the flames. ST uses chakra to push everything aside.
I'm not saying Naruto will get the rinnegan or something but his Kyuubi cloak is capable of doing this. OR he simply pulls out a chakra arm where the flames hits him.

since when can't naruto shed only the top layer of his cloak and not the entire thing? scans fanboy

 

[saw2097]

Lol, and he still didn't used this technique when the Juubi sent its minions. XD

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Naruto simply creates a layer of chakra of Kyuubi chakra from within and lifts the Amaterasu flames which were burning him. And then throws away the flames.

We have seen Nagato Shinra Tensei the flames. ST uses chakra to push everything aside.
I'm not saying Naruto will get the rinnegan or something but his Kyuubi cloak is capable of doing this. OR he simply pulls out a chakra arm where the flames hits him.

This is actually an excellent point, if the Jutsu worked like a gattling gun it would have been perfect for when the Juubi sent its miniature clones, yet Sasuke didn't use it.

 

[-ahhimane-]

since when can't naruto shed only the top layer of his cloak and not the entire thing? scans fanboy

the way you said Sasuke can use Amaterasu on Naruto the way you want him to (without any scans), I said the counter for that (without any scans ), Sasuke Fanboy

This is actually an excellent point, if the Jutsu worked like a gattling gun it would have been perfect for when the Juubi sent its miniature clones, yet Sasuke didn't use it.

Thanks and yes we have the scans for this

 

[-Sky-]

Susanoo build up time is under a lightning strike.

Wrong, Itachi summons Susano'o just before the lighting is struck:

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It's Sasuke's fault for acting cocky.

Yes he will. If angle of attack will be too much to outrun, if sasuke will readjust and shot b4 head.

Note the size of the battlefield here, with no Naruto in sight:

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Naruto is capable of spanning a battlefield in an instant:

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Sasuke will have to readjust to Naruto's position before he can fire Amaterasu again, as Naruto would have sprinted out of his line of sight. Sasuke does not see in 360 degrees.

Yes we can all assume both versions of susanoo are equally powerful by this, Never mind that PS had no problem keeping up with BM whatsoever.

Equally powerful? You just said it would be stronger here:

This was made with small susanno, bigger susanoo will produce far more of those upon bigger area and faster.

You should keep better track of what you are saying.

 

[slimreaper]

This is actually an excellent point, if the Jutsu worked like a gattling gun it would have been perfect for when the Juubi sent its miniature clones, yet Sasuke didn't use it.

sasuke would have shot each target multiple time because they were all massive. it would have taken to long to be really effective. did you forget those things were massive. and really that whole time was to show his equality to naruto. why would sasuke use a tech that naruto has no offensive equal to?

 

[-ahhimane-]

sasuke would have shot each target multiple time because they were all massive. it would have taken to long to be really effective. did you forget those things were massive. and really that whole time was to show his equality to naruto. why would sasuke use a tech that naruto has no offensive equal to?

SCANS Please????? U_U

 

[-Sky-]

you are talking about amaterasu. this isn't the technique amaterasu. because it spawns where the user is looking. immense speed can fool someone who is trying to look directly at a target. because sasuke doesn't need to look directly on naruto to fire enton magatama then sasuke would have no trouble shooting in front of naruto.

It doesn't fool someone with danger sensing.

And your last statement is false. Sasuke was clearly looking at all the Zetsu's he fired at. Naruto can easily sprint out of his line of sight.

 

[slimreaper]

Wrong, Itachi summons Susano'o just before the lighting is struck:

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It's Sasuke's fault for acting cocky.



Note the size of the battlefield here, with no Naruto in sight:

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Naruto is capable of spanning a battlefield in an instant:

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Sasuke will have to readjust to Naruto's position before he can fire Amaterasu again, as Naruto would have sprinted out of his line of sight. Sasuke does not see in 360 degrees.



Equally powerful? You just said it would be stronger here:



You should keep better track of what you are saying.

naruto clearly didn't cover all that area. because all the tbb were fired at a singular location, naruto just deflected each in a different direction. what do you think he just carried them all to a different mountain? sasuke doesn't need 360 vision. 1. naruto's speed isn't indefinite. he must spot eventually. when he does he will be shot by sasuke's spinning. actually sasuke could just shoot a spot and let naruto run into it

 

[AlphaScythian]

My point exactly. When you throw something there is a force behind, but in magatamas case there is no force behind. They are apparently just guided out of the sphere according to Sasuke's will to hit an intended target. The speed of an attack depends on the amount of force used to project the attack. Without a force, it's significantly slower, but well i guess we'll just have to agree to disagree

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It matches the speed of FRS. Now picture handred of FRSs