How does this page helps determine the speed?This page helps to know the speed of those magatamas and they look as slow as launching kunais if not slower
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How does this page helps determine the speed?This page helps to know the speed of those magatamas and they look as slow as launching kunais if not slower
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Thats the cream of logical conclusion. If there is motion then there is hope! For likes of obito minato and tobiramaThis settles the issue, if it can be seen in motion then it can be dodged by any character with pretty good speed, characters have dodged faster stuff in this manga.
yes initially. but because of the width of this attack coupled with with speed and radips soths. dodging for long is nearly impossible. I mean naruto can't move top speed forever.Naruto still dodges it quite honestly. Him and his clones.
This settles the issue, if it can be seen in motion then it can be dodged by any character with pretty good speed, characters have dodged faster stuff in this manga.
ok maybe not kages but most ninja with speed less than 4.5 (in databook) should fell for it.Saw and Bogard. Honestly, Even kage opponents would fall to this (Tsunade, Mei, Oonoki) any of K11 Aside from Naruto would fall to it. Many people in the series would fall to this technique and your average shinobi certainly won't be coming out alive, even if the individual happened to avoid one or two.
Deidara, Kisame, etc would also fall to this. I honestly don't see your point.
So for you tagging Zetsus is a great feat when they have never showed reaction speed great enough to dodge simple shurikens.Saw and Bogard. Honestly, Even kage opponents would fall to this (Tsunade, Mei, Oonoki) any of K11 Aside from Naruto would fall to it. Many people in the series would fall to this technique and your average shinobi certainly won't be coming out alive, even if the individual happened to avoid one or two.
Deidara, Kisame, etc would also fall to this. I honestly don't see your point.
The width was determined by the mass amounts of Zetsu. If there are several Naruto clones, then sure, he can take out a few with it.yes initially. but because of the width of this attack coupled with with speed and radips soths. dodging for long is nearly impossible. I mean naruto can't move top speed forever.
Only a select few characters are even remotely capable of dodging Amaterasu. Agreed. U_UTsunade certainly isn't dodging this, regardless of her reaction timing or not. She just lacks the speed to avoid all of them.
Oonoki is old, he is far from what his young body may have been able to do, he also lacks the speed to avoid this.
Mei isn't dodging this, basically what i've said above.
You are comparing Kunai, which are considerably smaller than the balls of Enton being thrown at the Zetsu and they also do not have the same force behind them as the Enton did, which is something you seem to keep overlooking. Not only that, but you happened to forget how easily black flames spread. Regardless if they were avoided or not, half the fighting ground is covered in flames.
This technique has no build up, the ball of enton is already there.The width was determined by the mass amounts of Zetsu. If there are several Naruto clones, then sure, he can take out a few with it.
However, Sasuke can't fire off Amaterasu like it's a battling gun. He has his limits too you know.
As said, Amaterasu takes time to build up:
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Either in SM, KM, BM, or BSM; Naruto would be aware that it's coming.
As shown here, if one is moving linearly, they can escape Amaterasu:
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However, it did catch Hebi Sasuke. Naruto however, is greater than Hebi Sasuke in foot speed. He would escape it. If necessary, he can summon a base clone to take the damage:
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With his sensing skills and speed, he can summon the clone in more than enough time. (If moving linearly)
And yes, BM Naruto is capable of summoning base clones:
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Note that all clones share Naruto's speed and sensing abilities, depending on the mode they are summoned in, and they retain the originals thoughts and battle style.
Also, Sasuke is incapable of firing Amaterasu 360 degrees, only capable of covering himself in Amaterasu. Naruto and his clones are more than fast enough to run in a circle. To go along with that, if they're mass clones, they're not all going to go in the same direction.
though this is amaterasu flames. this technique isn't amaterasu. its enton magatama.The width was determined by the mass amounts of Zetsu. If there are several Naruto clones, then sure, he can take out a few with it.
However, Sasuke can't fire off Amaterasu like it's a battling gun. He has his limits too you know.
As said, Amaterasu takes time to build up:
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Either in SM, KM, BM, or BSM; Naruto would be aware that it's coming.
As shown here, if one is moving linearly, they can escape Amaterasu:
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However, it did catch Hebi Sasuke. Naruto however, is greater than Hebi Sasuke in foot speed. He would escape it. If necessary, he can summon a base clone to take the damage:
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With his sensing skills and speed, he can summon the clone in more than enough time. (If moving linearly)
And yes, BM Naruto is capable of summoning base clones:
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Note that all clones share Naruto's speed and sensing abilities, depending on the mode they are summoned in, and they retain the originals thoughts and battle style.
Also, Sasuke is incapable of firing Amaterasu 360 degrees, only capable of covering himself in Amaterasu. Naruto and his clones are more than fast enough to run in a circle. To go along with that, if they're mass clones, they're not all going to go in the same direction.
Oh really.Saw and Bogard. Honestly, Even kage opponents would fall to this Tsunade, Mei, Oonoki any of K11 Aside from Naruto would fall to it. Many people in the series would fail against this technique and your average shinobi certainly won't be coming out alive, even if the individual happened to avoid one or two.
Deidara, Kisame, etc would also fall to this. I honestly don't see your point.
They don't need to be speedsters to dodge kunai-speed attacks that even slower ninjas dodge all day and no the enton aren't throwed like you mention. I don't see Sasuke's Susanoo throwing something on the picture. Enton also can't spread on ground. Fire only spread on materials like woodTsunade certainly isn't dodging this, regardless of her reaction timing or not. She just lacks the speed to avoid all of them.
Oonoki is old, he is far from what his young body may have been able to do, he also lacks the speed to avoid this.
Mei isn't dodging this, basically what i've said above.
All of them may see them coming and may be able to avoid a few, (Maybe) it is shown to have shot a considerable amount of them. What is not to say Sasuke can't just keep firing Enton, he has the stamina to do so, the Kage certainly don't have the stamina to keep avoiding them if they lack decent Shunsin feats.
(The Kage have high stamina, but without shunsin, it is an uphill battle.)
You are comparing Kunai, which are considerably smaller than the balls of Enton being thrown at the Zetsu and they also do not have the same force behind them as the Enton did, which is something you seem to keep overlooking. Not only that, but you happened to forget how easily black flames spread. Regardless if they were avoided or not, half the fighting ground is covered in flames.
@ Bold: Amaterasu has build up time. It's been said that it does many times. Just because Susano'o is holding it, doesn't change the fact that Sasuke still has to put his Susano'o up along with Amaterasu. Also, it does not change the fact that Naruto would sense danger do to his sensing skills.This technique has no build up, the ball of enton is already there.
To dodge all of that naruto will have to change his direction a few time, which will inevitable lead to drastic slow down and get hit.
This was made with small susanno, bigger susanoo will produce far more of those upon bigger area and faster.